Wouldn't surprise me if they are tbh.

none of that xian crap is worth anything at all tbh

isn't lfd a god warrior?

this forum needs a new thread

be sure to check out king taco when your in LA! mega good tacos for sure, hectic to say the least, though

also if your gonna be in hollywood be sure to hit up the bigass guitar center, carvin store, and mesa/boogie store. THATS some shit to see :D

[QUOTE=Modern Iconoclast;18358252]Any genre with core in it's name is pretty much crap, there are a few decent metalcore bands but that's it.[/QUOTE]

:lol:

what a faggot

[QUOTE=2muchket!;18357916]I mean [url] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=enTTnhrYJHk[/url] trumpts Satriani and his gay ass bandit shit lol hahahaha lol :lol:[/QUOTE]

That's the worst thing I've ever heard.


[QUOTE=Modern Iconoclast;18358261]This is crabcore

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oXuZDdAXh-w

god awful innit[/QUOTE]

No, wait, I was wrong, [I]this[/I] is the worst thing I've ever heard. Just sandwiching different songs together with a few seconds of silence between...

Oh Lord, I just got to the stupid techno ending.

That is seriously the most stupid thing I've ever heard.

Those two vids were absolutely dire.

There's some good death and metal core but for every decent song/band theres like 10 that are utter, utter garbage. The whole metal genre is interesting if only for the fact that the quality gulf is so damn extreme. Some metal bands are great and make for an excellent listen while some actually (i kid you not) make me think "do i actually listen to this genre? what the hell do people think of me?".

The Boy Will Drown is p good.

To the dude who dislikes Converge, interesting to see what type of music you listen to. Probably some gay who likes Rush.

tbh from what i've heard of Converge they're pretty bad.

When Forever Comes Crashing is the best album ever written.

Rush owns your balls


[IMG]http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_8TJYl4uc3lQ/SsVQebH0x0I/AAAAAAAABRw/WWCebw0eBjk/s1600/deathcore.jpg[/IMG]

Ha you posted a pic.

And like him or hate him, Oli Sykes is an amazing harsh vocalist.

Actually no, he's not, he's terrible. He screams like all the other emo fags who don't know how to do it properly. Hope he enjoys coughing up blood in a few years.

Mikael Akerfeldt is someone who can be considered an amazing vocalist, not someone who wears girl pants.

[QUOTE=2muchket!;18359241]Ha you posted a pic.

And like him or hate him, Oli Sykes is an amazing harsh vocalist.[/QUOTE]

I've just listened to Bring Me the Horizon for the first time, and that guy has horrible vocals. When he tries to sort of sing/talk/whatever where it isn't mega screamy just sounds retarded, because he's clearly not even attempting to sound in key. And his actual screams are all coming from his throat, which just sounds lame.

Musically it's not bad; but nothing special either.

On a related note I could've swore that Oli Sykes was the name of some reject off X-Factor or something.

[quote=Squirrel;18359138]The whole metal genre is interesting if only for the fact that the quality gulf is so damn extreme. Some metal bands are great and make for an excellent listen [B]while some actually (i kid you not) make me think "do i actually listen to this genre? what the hell do people think of me?"[/B].[/quote]

My thoughts exactly. A lot of metal just doesn't even bear thinking about.

What's really annoying is that most of my mates in uni are of that particularly narrow-minded view that if you like something that they've not heard of, then OBVIOUSLY you don't like various media JUST BECAUSE IT'S POPULAR. Then the problem is, the only exposure they get to metal is really terrible deathcore/hardcore stuff that gets played on the radio and whatever, and they assume I'm into that.

Honestly, these people are 21 years of age, I would have expected them to grow up/realize that popularity is largely subjective. Even worse, they say that almost everything I come out with is 'bullshit' if it's not something they've heard of previously, which is just plain insulting. Uncultured, ignorant fuckwits that they are.

[QUOTE=Modern Iconoclast;18359267]Actually no, he's not, he's terrible. He screams like all the other emo fags who don't know how to do it properly. Hope he enjoys coughing up blood in a few years.

Mikael Akerfeldt is someone who can be considered an amazing vocalist, not someone who wears girl pants.[/QUOTE]

Opeth fan trying to bash me :lol:

But nice reading comprehension there faggot I said he was a good 'harsh' vocalist, which implies screamer etc.

Still lol opeth fan trying to bash me :lol:

And ofc his screams are going to come from his throat, last time I checked that's where your vocal chords are to be found. I could be wrong though.

And I did say he's good at harsh vocals, I'm well aware when he tries to do spoken word it sounds dire.

Musically I think they're pretty poor, first album rips of Dahlia Murder, latest stuff rips off Architects w/ Bury Your Dead breakdowns.

George Fisher, in many an interview, has said screaming just from the throat is bad - not just tonally and volume wise but it's gonna seriously mess your throat up after a while.

[QUOTE=2muchket!;18359526]
And ofc his screams are going to come from his throat, last time I checked that's where your vocal chords are to be found. I could be wrong though.
[/QUOTE]

Yeah so screaming like that, and straining the shit out of your throat and ruining all those lovely vocal cords is a great idea. A good, sustainable screaming vocal performance should come mostly from the gut/diaphragm and the throat should only be utilised to add a high end harshness to your vocals, if necessary.


Also: I've only got 1 Opeth album, and I can safely say that they are a lot, [I]lot[/I] more talented and, to my ears, better, than BMTH or whatever.

True, that's where singing techniques and control over your breathing come in.

Tbh I don't know how anyone can say his highs are bad, or his lows, they sound fantastic to me, almost as good as Anthony Gunnells from Through the Eyes of the Dead.

Also I've only ever seen a few hardcore bands that don't do mic cupping and that proper sucks

I lol when I hear criticism of mic cupping.

It makes no difference what so ever to how your vocals sound, or that's the case with myself anyway.

Realised earlier that the amount of metal I listen to is very limited, seeing as I count Metalcore as a sub genre of hardcore. I listen to a little bit of DM and BM and then deftones and pth but that's it.

The 14 year old me would be pissed with me.

[QUOTE=2muchket!;18359585] I lol when I hear criticism of mic cupping.

It makes no difference what so ever to how your vocals sound, or that's the case with myself anyway.

[/QUOTE]
Then why do they do it? All it does it makes them look stupid/exactly like every other emo cunt.
[QUOTE=2muchket!;18359585]
Realised earlier that the amount of metal I listen to is very limited, seeing as I count Metalcore as a sub genre of hardcore. I listen to a little bit of DM and BM and then deftones and pth but that's it. [/QUOTE]

Then your opinion on good vocalists is void.

Also, you like that guy's vocals which really voids your opinion.

Hahaha oh my god, you're so fucking stupid I don't even know where to start.

First of all Opeth is god tier, they're one of the greatest bands in the history of metal. They're 1000x more creative and original than any shitty deathcore band could ever hope to be.

The fact that you think screaming from the throat is ok shows just how retarded you are. As SBT said it should always come from your diaphragm and your head voice should only be used for highs, even then the power should still be coming from your chest. There are 2 types of singing, clean and harsh. Clean is self explanatory and harsh is a blanket term that encompasses all growling, screaming, etc. Don't even try to argue that harsh is a specific sub-type within that.

You've got to be deaf if you can't tell that mic cupping changes the sound. It's one of the gayest fucking things a vocalist can do.

I nominate 2muchket! to be the new guitar forum bitch for his shitty taste in music and retarded comments.

[QUOTE=Modern Iconoclast;18359705]Hahaha oh my god, you're so fucking stupid I don't even know where to start.

First of all Opeth is god tier, they're one of the greatest bands in the history of metal. They're 1000x more creative and original than any shitty deathcore band could ever hope to be.

The fact that you think screaming from the throat is ok shows just how retarded you are. As SBT said it should always come from your diaphragm and your head voice should only be used for highs, even then the power should still be coming from your chest. There are 2 types of singing, clean and harsh. Clean is self explanatory and harsh is a blanket term that encompasses all growling, screaming, etc. Don't even try to argue that harsh is a specific sub-type within that.

You've got to be deaf if you can't tell that mic cupping changes the sound. It's one of the gayest fucking things a vocalist can do.

I nominate 2muchket! to be the new guitar forum bitch for his shitty taste in music and retarded comments.[/QUOTE]
I agree with every single point.


I just showed my housemates that Attack Attack video and we were literally crying in laughter at how fucking stupid they sound, look, act, and generally are.

[QUOTE=Modern Iconoclast;18359705]Hahaha oh my god, you're so fucking stupid I don't even know where to start.

First of all Opeth is god tier, they're one of the greatest bands in the history of metal. They're 1000x more creative and original than any shitty deathcore band could ever hope to be.

The fact that you think screaming from the throat is ok shows just how retarded you are. As SBT said it should always come from your diaphragm and your head voice should only be used for highs, even then the power should still be coming from your chest. There are 2 types of singing, clean and harsh. Clean is self explanatory and harsh is a blanket term that encompasses all growling, screaming, etc. Don't even try to argue that harsh is a specific sub-type within that.

You've got to be deaf if you can't tell that mic cupping changes the sound. It's one of the gayest fucking things a vocalist can do.

I nominate 2muchket! to be the new guitar forum bitch for his shitty taste in music and retarded comments.[/QUOTE]

VOCAL

CORDS

IN YOUR

DIAPHRAGM

makes sense

They really are atrocious.

Btw, which Opeth album do you have?

I used to love opeth when I was 15.

Kinda grew up and stopped liking them along with the Arctic Monkeys a while ago.

http://www.last.fm/user/frank-eye - so much bad musix.

[QUOTE=2muchket!;18359749]VOCAL

CORDS

IN YOUR

DIAPHRAGM

makes sense[/QUOTE]

Christ on a cracker you really are that stupid.

Do you have any understanding of how singing works? Like at all? It's all about how you push air through your vocal chords and there are a lot of different ways to do that. Shitty screamers are the ones who puff up their chests and constrict their throats while they proceed to grind their vocal chords together, it's a great way to destroy your voice.

Go actually learn something about the subject before you make yourself look even more retarded.

opeth is pretty boring

[QUOTE=Modern Iconoclast;18359761]Christ on a cracker you really are that stupid.

Do you have any understanding of how singing works? Like at all? It's all about how you push air through your vocal chords and there are a lot of different ways to do that. Shitty screamers are the ones who puff up their chests and constrict their throats while they proceed to grind their vocal chords together, it's a great way to destroy your voice.

Go actually learn something about the subject before you make yourself look even more retarded.[/QUOTE]

implying an opeth fan can accurately educate someone else

implying you're not a virgin

implying grinding your cords together isn't a pleasing sound

implying you're not a faggot