[QUOTE=god_hates_us_all]Haha.

What do you mean "strong tags"?[/QUOTE]
/shall explain css etc to you on msn. Unless Chris feels like it, that is.

Haha, today's Italian lesson consisted of me getting something wrong (horribly) and it getting rubbed in by one of my mates for most of the day.

So to anyone who ever has the idea of using the Oxford Italian Pocket Dictionary to use the word "excited"...
We had to write a journal entry about a trip to Rome and in it I said "Tyler was excited. It was his first time in Rome."
Because I didn't know the word for excited, I looked it up in the dictionary and put it into the sentence. Today I had it explained to me (loudly and with much laughing from the teacher) that the word I'd used was meant in a sexual context. After he'd explained this to the class, of course, he had to read out the section as "Tyler was excited. It was his first time...".

Strong tags (in replacment of Bold tags) and em tags (in replacment of Italic tags) seem to be the way to do things now days.
They are more accessable. As in, a screen readers reads and browsers render strong and em tags as emphasised items. Whereas B and I tags are more just visual cues.

:lol: @ Trea!

[QUOTE=Aes820]Strong tags (in replacment of Bold tags) and em tags (in replacment of Italic tags) seem to be the way to do things now days.
They are more accessable. As in, a screen readers reads and browsers render strong and em tags as emphasised items. Whereas B and I tags are more just visual cues.[/QUOTE]
Oh, okay.

So, instead of <b> it should be <strong>? Or what? Sorry :upset:.

Anyway, are you mod of this section? If so could you [i]please[/i] change the "Music Theory Tread" to the "Music Theory Thread", it's driving me insane! :lol:

Yeah. <strong>this is emphasised</strong>.

I'm not an official mod of this section. But I am a super and will be able to change that for you.

Tyler's trip to rome must've been on a Contiki Tour, those can get kind of wild.

[QUOTE=Aes820]Yeah. <strong>this is emphasised</strong>.

I'm not an official mod of this section. But I am a super and will be able to change that for you.

Tyler's trip to rome must've been on a Contiki Tour, those can get kind of wild.[/QUOTE]
You're super? Awesome.

And thanks for changing it, :D

[strong]I think i might've got the wrong idea somewhere[/strong]

[em]oh well.[/em]

Hey Moaner.

What's up?

not much, I'ma go work in a few minutes

because our tesco hasn't opened up yet i fear i'll be stacking shelves, not swiping at checkouts

I'm a bit annoyerd iwth tesco actually, I'll have a rant later

[QUOTE=moaner]not much, I'ma go work in a few minutes

because our tesco hasn't opened up yet i fear i'll be stacking shelves, not swiping at checkouts

I'm a bit annoyerd iwth tesco actually, I'll have a rant later[/QUOTE]

I don't think you are allowed to work checkouts till 18, or something like that. Under the basis that because you're not 18 then you must have a unstoppable urge to steal money.
Oh I worked out how to sort that firewire thing out, the firepods just connect themselves together.

[QUOTE]I don't think you are allowed to work checkouts till 18, or something like that. Under the basis that because you're not 18 then you must have a unstoppable urge to steal money.[/QUOTE]

Nah i don't think thats the case, because i know people who work for Tesco's and are on checkouts, and im starting a job next week in Somerfield and i'll be on checkout. Just pester the managers to let you on checkout, or come in with a back brace on and tell them you had a suspicious accident with a rather large car/box/cat, and hopefuly they wont ask for a doctors note :naughty:

Good luck for the job, Tesco pay well :thumb:

Gaz

Woo Woo.
It's the buying things train!

Jan = I get 4500 minimum.
Combine this with,
A. Christmas about 15 days before
B. My Birthday on the 11th of Jan.

And it equals the following.

A Mac Mini
2 Presonus Firepods = 16 XLRS with phantom power simultanious into the mac.
A Behringer 8 way headphone Amp.
Behringer Active Truth Monitors
6 Random enclosed headphones.
1 Rode NT1A.
2 T-bone SM57 copies
1 T-bone SM58 beta copy
1 Sennheiser 606a
1 Samson Q drum mic kit (2 pencil condenser overheads, 2 tom mics, 1 snare mic, kick mic)

About 4 boom mic stands.
2 mini boom stands
A heap of XLRS and jack cables and mic stand mounds.
And Logic Express 7 to top it off.
Should be a nice set up.

Might get a few mic upgrades in the coming months as well. Mebbe an AKG D112.

I am absolutely legally allowed on checkouts.

however, since the store isn't open i'm unable to work my specifically allocated hours (managers not around and stuff) and yet they're insisting I owe them hours for the time they wouldn't let me work. wankers.

on top of that, i spent 4 hours doing jack **** except pissing around on the till.

[QUOTE=moaner]I am absolutely legally allowed on checkouts.

however, since the store isn't open i'm unable to work my specifically allocated hours (managers not around and stuff) and yet they're insisting I owe them hours for the time they wouldn't let me work. wankers.

on top of that, i spent 4 hours doing jack **** except pissing around on the till.[/QUOTE]

What bastards. That's their fault not yours.

[QUOTE=KKKKKocaine]What bastards. That's their fault not yours.[/QUOTE]

heads, brick walls, there's not a lot I can do.

I'm so tempted to go visit 10th egg studios of yourk now I've checked them out.

Stick my numerous armfuls of gear on the train and get myself down there :lol:

I'd need roadies... :s

[QUOTE=moaner]
Stick my numerous armfuls of gear on the train and get myself down there :lol:
[/QUOTE]

Only to be locked in a cage by an evil paedophile at the end of your journey.
Welcome to Yorkshire.

:eek::eek: £4500! bloody hell!

[QUOTE]2 T-bone SM57 copies[/QUOTE]

OOOO i forgot to give a review of these. in a few words, yeah, their not bad. maaaybe not *as* good as a real one, but they sound good to me. I'll dig some songs out for you tomorrow, but i got good results from them.

[QUOTE]A Behringer 8 way headphone Amp.[/QUOTE]
Off the top of my head, and im a little drunk, but i believe the Samson Audio headphone amp is a bit better feature wise. I think you can have a choice of 5 inputs, its worth checking out!

[QUOTE]Behringer Active Truth Monitors[/QUOTE]
I assume your on Thomann, because your looking at T-bones, so have a look at "The Box NF06A's". £99, 100watts, active, bargain. worth a look aswell.



[QUOTE]on top of that, i spent 4 hours doing jack **** except pissing around on the till. [/QUOTE]

Yeah, but don't worry, its kinda free money, so its all good:D, at the rate your on, thats almost £20 for doing nothing!!:eek:

Hey all.

Hey Gav... why the name change?

[QUOTE=moaner]heads, brick walls, there's not a lot I can do.

I'm so tempted to go visit 10th egg studios of yourk now I've checked them out.

Stick my numerous armfuls of gear on the train and get myself down there :lol:

I'd need roadies... :s[/QUOTE]

I worked in Asda and you are allowed to work checkouts if you're under 18 but can't put alcohol through the tills. Due to the problems that this causes, most supermarkets tend not to allow you on the tills unless you're 18. :thumb:

[QUOTE=Trigger_003]Hey Gav... why the name change?[/QUOTE]
I grew tired of the constant "hey, God [i]doesn't[/i] hate us all!" remarks.

Also, as of late, my passion for classical piano has eclipsed my love of metal music.

[QUOTE=gaz12369]
OOOO i forgot to give a review of these. in a few words, yeah, their not bad. maaaybe not *as* good as a real one, but they sound good to me. I'll dig some songs out for you tomorrow, but i got good results from them.
[/QUOTE]

Kewl, let me know when you get some soundclips up!

[QUOTE]Off the top of my head, and im a little drunk, but i believe the Samson Audio headphone amp is a bit better feature wise. I think you can have a choice of 5 inputs, its worth checking out![/QUOTE]

I need 6 minimum, I'm a greedy sod :p

[QUOTE]I assume your on Thomann, because your looking at T-bones, so have a look at "The Box NF06A's". £99, 100watts, active, bargain. worth a look aswell.[/QUOTE]

Kewls, I hadn't seen that.
Tah brah.

[QUOTE=Diatonic Dissonance™]
...[/QUOTE]

catchy.


K, wtf is "tah brah"?

The bra?

[QUOTE=moaner]catchy.


K, wtf is "tah brah"?

The bra?[/QUOTE]

How dare you insult my African heritage.
You're dissing my crew!
:angry:
*caps you*

Tah Brah is some random African slang for 'Thanks Brother'

[QUOTE]I need 6 minimum, I'm a greedy sod [/QUOTE]
Haha woops i ment SM Pro Audio :upset:

[URL=http://www.smproaudio.com/HP6.htm]http://www.smproaudio.com/HP6.htm[/URL]

It's got 4 mix inputs, and 6 headphone outs.

The Behringer one only has two mix inputs, but has direct in's on each amp channel and 8 channels. Depends what you want really, but if you can get away with just 6, id be tempted to get the SM Pro one, because you could make different monitor mixes for each listener.

[URL=http://www.myspace.com/theintergalacticwarhero ]http://www.myspace.com/theintergalacticwarhero [/URL]

This is my mates myspace, I recorded the song "Convincing Mental Health Patients" (the 2nd one down) for him. The only part thats really recorded with the 57 copy is some of the heavy bit. I recorded that bit with 3 mic's. The 57 straight at the speaker, a Shure 58 off axis on the other speaker, and the T.bone Retro Jr as a room mic.

All the other parts of the song were recorded with the Retro Jr.

Yeah, there's too much reverb on the vocals aswell, but it was my first real recording, so its all good. I wanted it to sound like it was sung in an empty hospital, so it sounded allright, but listening back on it it was a bit much.

Gaz

why an empty hostipal..?

Its called Convincing Mental Health Patients... so it fits. Just wanted quite an empty feel to it

My team leader (one of the ones I don't like that much, the one who was trying to convince me to skip 6th form to go to a training day) let me off work 3 hours early today, and the bakery gave my a load of free rbead. I took 4 ciabatta, a baguette, a while loaf and a crust roll.

Good times.

Woo!
The budget has changed :p I'm too pedantic.

I've now decided something though, originally the studio was just going to be for recording my band and a few other local bands to make some extra cash.
Seen as my budgets increased and I'm the quality of the mics are going up, I'm going to take the following plan.

Jan - I get all the gear. Set it up, take time to accustom myself to using it all. Bring my band over and we'll just try and put down a couple of songs so I can get used to using the gear in a recording situation.
I'll continue tinkering with it, with various instruments at my house.

Then later on I've got a list of a few bands who I'm going to do a few recordings for free with. 3 or so tracks so I can get more experience with the set up and how it's best used.

Then I'm becoming self employed and running the mobile studio full time :)
I figure with the mics I've got, my Sgt. Pepper philosophy* and the pricing**


*That the Beatles recorded with an 8 track. And that in the present date, my gear should outclass theirs. Thus, if I learn to use it well. I can get fantastic results easily.

** I want to aim for £20 a song. Considering I'm living with my parents and don't have to pay rent or buy food. This'll be more than good enough to start with as,
1. It undercuts any remotely decent competition. My closest price competitors would be a local studio charging £25 a track. Who won't be able to match my quality or service***.

2. I can outmatch the above studio on equipment. They don't even have a headphone amp.

3. I'll also be tentatively exploring the cd printing market. Albeit at a small level. (50 or so copies maximum) as I'll be running it off a single printer. So I'll be at about 17 colour jewel case inserts and back inserts a minute. And about 34 cd's a minute. It doesn't sound like long, but when you have to put things together by hand, trust me it is :p.

4. I'm also considering expansion into the following areas. Video production and P.A. hire. My advantage in these areas would once again be pricing and quality of service.

So basicly, I'm completely confident that by febuary, I can rape my competitors in the local area and provide bands with a releasable product for a low price.


*** Seen as it's mobile, that means alot of bands will be recording in practice rooms and thus paying two people. Me, and the practice room. Because of this, I intend to do all mixing at home unless the artist wants it doing in the session, to allow the artist the full session time to just record and not have to worry about mixing the tracks. This also means I can spend more time tweaking the tracks when I haven't just had my ears blasted for hours on end :)

So here's my updated budget, let me know what you think. I'd be open to reccomendations on the condenser front. I'm not entirely sure what I want to get for the condenser. I'd be looking for mostly a vocal mic.

Mics
X1 Sennheiser E606 (Guitar)
X 1 Sennheiser e609 – (Guitar)
AKG drumkit big* (Drums :rolleyes:)
Sennheiser E840s (Dynamic, vox)
Behringer XM8500 (Dynamic, Vox)
Audio Technica AT3060 (Condenser, Vox mostly)


* This is 1 AKG D112, 4 C418's, and 2 c1000S.

SM Audio HP6 (Headphone amp) <Thanks for reccomending this Gaz>




Monitoring
the box NF06 A (active monitor)
X6 Behringer HPS3000 (headphones)




Stands And Cables
X3 MILLENIUM MS-2002 (small boom stands)
X5 Millenium MS-2005 (regular boom stands)
X10 CORDIAL CCM 10 FM ( spare XLR's)
X5 CORDIAL CCI 3 PP (spare jack leads)
X2 t.bone MS180 (pop filters)




Mac Mini
X2 Presonus Firepod (16 XLR inputs in total, and 8 line-inputs)
Logic 7 Express
Western Digital WDXUL800BBNU Essential 80GB USB2.0 External Hard Drive




Printing
Canon Pixma iP4000R Wireless Printer

It comes to around £3,500.
So let me know what you think and any reccomendations.
Thanks guys :)

Sup all.

hi im nic, i dont think ive ever properly introduced myself, I used to be theabstract, i wrote the home recording guide

I'm convinced K sells babies to Ex-Russian Mafia, because i have a job, and cant afford all that, but he does nothing, and can. grrr.

Heh, though i dont mind, because im famous, go SM Pro Audio :thumb:

Sounds like an awesome plan K, but a few pointers from looking down the list:

Firstly, consider the non-wireless version of the printer, im not sure how much more it costs, but if it saves you £30, you can get another mic instead? i have the Wired ip4000, its great.

As for the Behringer Mic, maybe look at T.bone alternatives. Just an option, as you can get an SM57 style. If you want me to make you a quick recording with one, just give a reply telling me what sorta thing you want (i've probably got some drum tracks with it on the snare and i can easily do guitar and bass mic'ing with it) [i dont have drums though, so i might not be able to get exactly what you want with it]

Other than that the selection looks awesome! :thumb:

A few things to consider for the future:
>Midi Controller, like the behringer fader one, its nice to have hands on fader control.
>A nice voice channel, just to give your vocals some extra warmth.
>Maaybe an outboard compressor, but its not essential.


Another thing that i just thought of, is that (though you probably have it covered) you need to figure out how to deal with the parents complaining about noise and such? If they dont mind, then its all good, but like my parents aren't all that fussed on havng a guitar amp blasting through the house lol. Just a thought:)


Good luck on it all, sounds like you have it all planned out and such :thumb:

Gaz

[QUOTE=gaz12369]I'm convinced K sells babies to Ex-Russian Mafia, because i have a job, and cant afford all that, but he does nothing, and can. grrr.
[/QUOTE]

:p Get yourself hit by a car at 12 and then put it in the bank to get interest. :p


[QUOTE]Firstly, consider the non-wireless version of the printer, im not sure how much more it costs, but if it saves you £30, you can get another mic instead? i have the Wired ip4000, its great.[/QUOTE]

That's an idea, what's the capability on the ip4000 for printing on print ready cd's?

It'd save me about £82.

[QUOTE]As for the Behringer Mic, maybe look at T.bone alternatives. Just an option, as you can get an SM57 style. If you want me to make you a quick recording with one, just give a reply telling me what sorta thing you want (i've probably got some drum tracks with it on the snare and i can easily do guitar and bass mic'ing with it) [i dont have drums though, so i might not be able to get exactly what you want with it][/QUOTE]

Anything you've got with it on would be good. :) It'd be useful to have a variety of mics around.

[QUOTE]Another thing that i just thought of, is that (though you probably have it covered) you need to figure out how to deal with the parents complaining about noise and such? If they dont mind, then its all good, but like my parents aren't all that fussed on havng a guitar amp blasting through the house lol. Just a thought[/QUOTE]

That's the clients problem :p
It's going to be mobile so I'll be driving it to where they wanna record so my parents won't have anything to worry about.
I'd have loved to record in my cellar but it's tiny.
So I'm guessing most bands will hire out a practice room, or if they practice at home do it there.

I'm thinking of switching the Audio Technica mic to a Neumann TLM 103 (£579) or a Blue Baby Bottle (£339)
Tah for the comments though, and the SM Pro Audio was a sweet find only a few pounds more than the behringer and better.

[QUOTE]Anything you've got with it on would be good. It'd be useful to have a variety of mics around.[/QUOTE]

Hey K, i was going to get some stuff sorted out tonight, but after a nice pub session, my mate said he wants to come up and record on tuesday, so instead il wait till then and il do some proper demo's for you. He has a couple of SM 58's, so il A/B some stuff with them aswell (heh, take the guard off and its a 57:p)

If you need anything before say next wednesday, let me know and il send you some of what i have, but i thought it might be more useful to have some proper demo'd stuff.

Gaz

The blue baby bottle would be an excellent choice. And so would logic express, which I own - it's great.

[QUOTE=airborne50caliber]The blue baby bottle would be an excellent choice. And so would logic express, which I own - it's great.[/QUOTE]

Yeah I was looking at the bottle. Have you seen the Violet range of mics? Blue is looking to sue the pants off them.

[QUOTE=airborne50caliber]The blue baby bottle would be an excellent choice. And so would logic express, which I own - it's great.[/QUOTE]

Express was on my list but now I'm considering going for the full version.
Simply because I heard the guitar modeller was less flexible on express. Any thoughts on that?

[QUOTE]
Hey K, i was going to get some stuff sorted out tonight, but after a nice pub session, my mate said he wants to come up and record on tuesday, so instead il wait till then and il do some proper demo's for you. He has a couple of SM 58's, so il A/B some stuff with them aswell (heh, take the guard off and its a 57)

If you need anything before say next wednesday, let me know and il send you some of what i have, but i thought it might be more useful to have some proper demo'd stuff.

Gaz[/QUOTE]

Tah brah, I'm cool with waiting till then. Thanks man.

Sup KKKKKocaine?

[QUOTE=Diatonic Dissonance™]Sup KKKKKocaine?[/QUOTE]

Not much, I picked up my weight bench yesterday. It took me about 2-3 hours to put 90% of it together. I might actually get around to using it today :p What you been up to?

[QUOTE=KKKKKocaine]Not much, I picked up my weight bench yesterday. It took me about 2-3 hours to put 90% of it together. I might actually get around to using it today :p What you been up to?[/QUOTE]

nah, all the excercise is in the assembly.