thoughts on ZXT rock set?...anyone?

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[QUOTE=NCDrummer]thoughts on ZXT rock set?...anyone?

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yea...dont get them

why?

I'm looking for a funky sounding crash and splash from the Istanbul series? Anyone got any advice?

funky sounding isnt very descriptive.

[QUOTE=NCDrummer]why?[/QUOTE]

easily put, they suck.

[QUOTE=bobby__johnny]easily put, they suck.[/QUOTE]

yea thers really no easy answer besides they suck and they are too much money for such poopish cymbals

[QUOTE=Seafroggys]Moon used Sound Edge. I read what his setup was on a site once.[/QUOTE]

Do you know what size his were?

How come people always say Paiste cymbals are really consistant? Aren't they all partly handmade?

Ok, I'm looking for a smallish cymbal, 14 or 15 inch, that's just...obnoxious, I guess is the word I'm looking for, loud, lots of overtones, long decay, it's to sort or crash ride on, like play 8th notes on, kinda thing, I guess...doesn't matter what brand or anything.

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[QUOTE=Drazinus]Ok, I'm looking for a smallish cymbal, 14 or 15 inch, that's just...obnoxious, I guess is the word I'm looking for, loud, lots of overtones, long decay, it's to sort or crash ride on, like play 8th notes on, kinda thing, I guess...doesn't matter what brand or anything.

[-Draz-][/QUOTE]

Any wuhan china. The bigger the more annoying and trashy.

[QUOTE=Epiphender]Do you know what size his were?

How come people always say Paiste cymbals are really consistant? Aren't they all partly handmade?[/QUOTE]
NOO. They are made out of huge sheets and they are cookie cuttered out. Im not sure if all of them are made like this but i know for a fact that sigs are made like this.

[QUOTE=bobby__johnny]*Bump*[/QUOTE]
?? :confused: ??

[QUOTE=skadrummer411]Any wuhan china. The bigger the more annoying and trashy.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, but to get something with longer decay I'd have to get like, a 22inch, and I want something reasonably small to boom in kinda above my ride, I tried out my 12 inch and 16 inch wuhans for this already and they were close, but not exactly what I'm looking for.

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^^^

take a look as to what page that was on eh? that was before the sticky

I know I like to go back many pages until before something was stickied, and question people's bumps.

poppin - I just found this.

[url]http://paiste.com/faqs/default.php?faqcategoryid=4&faqid=79#faq79[/url]

[QUOTE=Epiphender]Do you know what size his were?

How come people always say Paiste cymbals are really consistant? Aren't they all partly handmade?[/QUOTE]

I'm guessing 14", but maybe 15".....after all, it *was* Keith Moon.

[QUOTE=Epiphender]I know I like to go back many pages until before something was stickied, and question people's bumps.

poppin - I just found this.

[url]http://paiste.com/faqs/default.php?faqcategoryid=4&faqid=79#faq79[/url][/QUOTE]
thats what the guy in the store told me, but ill ask around at this [url]http://www.sanjoseprodrum.com/paiste.htm[/url] . It still doent say which lines but that could be because i didn't read closely.

Whats a good china that would go well with my 18inch AA?

[QUOTE=Epiphender]Do you know what size his were?

How come people always say Paiste cymbals are really consistant? Aren't they all partly handmade?[/QUOTE]
Paiste have a very strict quality control.

[QUOTE=forgottenDRUMMER]Whats a good china that would go well with my 18inch AA?[/QUOTE]

i assume you mean your 18" AA China right?

cant go wrong in adding a 14" or 16" china of some sort....

[QUOTE=bobby__johnny]i assume you mean your 18" AA China right?

cant go wrong in adding a 14" or 16" china of some sort....[/QUOTE]

yea i meant 18inch AA china

What does the 21" AAX Stage Ride sound like? I found for real cheap and I am considering buying it.

Also what are some good questions to ask when buying a used cymbal?

dont ask questions...aside from "how old is it?"

just look for obvious damage (cracks, keyholes, dents etc..) Play it. if you dont like it, dont buy it.

Look for cracks and keyholing.

Oh are you buying online or something?

Hi guys,

yeah i'm lookin to buy my first set of proffesional cymbals preferably Sabian or Zildjian. I've looked at Sabain AAX and Zildjian A-Customs but im open to any suggestions...

mmmmm sabian AAXstage crash. mmmmm. A custom crashes are good too.

Sabian HHX. Top notch Sabian cymbals that sound incredible. I love the rides and have heard good things about the Groove Hats.

mix and match what you like....you could end up with a total mix of something like AAX Stage Hats, A Zildjian Ping Ride, and A Custom Projection crash

I'm looking for a thin bright crash cymbal. Nothing paper thin though.

^^^16" Thin Istanbul Agop Traditional......

Anyway, I did a review on a AA 18" Medium, here's the link.

[URL=http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=359565]http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=359565[/URL]

What iis a good pair of hats that also goes with a 18icnh aaxplosion and a 16inch aax stage crash? i was thinking 13inch aax stage hats or AA rock hi-hats.

^^ AAX stage hats or AAXcelerators

i think i will go for the stage hats.

I'm looking into buying a china cymbal, I want a bright crisp sound that is very audible and pronounced, preferably paist but any suggestions?

I'm back again in my quest for the perfect hats. First off, they have to sound hella smooth open, like my A Custom crashes, they have to be articulate and responsive, not slushy, and they have to have a tight foot chick.

Am I looking for lighter hats, like A Customs or AAX Studios, or smaller diameter (13" or smaller) standard hats like New Beats or AAX Stage, or heavier vented fusion hats?

Thanks in advance for any feedback.

I tried out heaps of hats when i picked out my 14" new beats. I'll run through soemt he ones I tried:

13" new beats
Awesome stick definition closed, but playign htem half cloased left a bit to be desired. They don't have enough metal for a nice sound, more of a harsher punch.

14" A Customs
Almost chose these, and a good pair of hats. Sweet closed sound and I quite enjoyed them half closed and open as well. I'd sugest starting here and see if you like them.

13" A Customs
Higher pitched than the 14" hats, didn't they them as much, but still offered a nice sound. Slushy when open so probably not what your lookign for.

14" HHX Groove Hats
I really did not like these hats, I thought I was going ot hear a nice crisp funky pair of hats when I tried them I ended up with a sharp high pitched chick.

14" Paiste Sound Formula Heavy Hats
I thought these hats were pretty alright, nice sticking and a pretty good wash sound when played open.

14" New Beats (brilliant)
They are great all round hats. Good stick definition and nice wash played open. A little brighter than the A Customs, check these out as well.


well theres a few I've tried out myself, I'm sure other people will offer more sugestions, just remmeber the most important thing is what YOU think about them, after all your the one whos goign to be playing them.

[QUOTE=Blackhorizons]I'm looking into buying a china cymbal, I want a bright crisp sound that is very audible and pronounced, preferably paist but any suggestions?[/QUOTE]

Try a 2002 china, either 18" or 20". Great cuttign chinas, the 20" will take your face off.

i wanna buy a cymbal set (high-hat, crash and ride) between 300 and 500 dollars i wanna play metal with it. thx

[QUOTE=Flyin' Brian]I'm back again in my quest for the perfect hats. First off, they have to sound hella smooth open, like my A Custom crashes, they have to be articulate and responsive, not slushy, and they have to have a tight foot chick.

Am I looking for lighter hats, like A Customs or AAX Studios, or smaller diameter (13" or smaller) standard hats like New Beats or AAX Stage, or heavier vented fusion hats?

Thanks in advance for any feedback.[/QUOTE]

those almost descirbe the AA sizzle hats. its a medium/heavy pairing, but the bottom is vented and has sizzles in it (obviously)

thus, the close sound is tight. foots should be sharp, and they give a great wash thanks to the sizzles.....all in all, best pairing of hats?

though, being AA, you have your choice of bright...or bright. heh....although, you [i]could[/i] request a custom order from a local dealer in having the bottom cymbal riveted in the same fashion for a pair of Hand hammereds or HHX's if your after a darker sound.