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Der Meister 05-07-2005 07:30 AM

say you bought the stage pack. You get stage crash/hats/ride. You might not like the stage crash as much as the rock crash and then you'll be wanting to upgrade and costing yourself more money. Unless you like all 3 in the pack the best in which case gte it.

Futuro 05-07-2005 10:57 AM

as of now i own 1 crash its a 18 inch full crash, and the shops around me do not carry any cymbal bigger than that in size unless ordered. i would like to know if i should go with the 18 power crash or have them order the 19 inch full crash.

also what sound charecteristics differ from 19 full to 18 inch power?

thanks alot

joemarsh 05-07-2005 11:01 AM

[QUOTE=faith+1]as of now i own 1 crash its a 18 inch full crash, and the shops around me do not carry any cymbal bigger than that in size unless ordered. i would like to know if i should go with the 18 power crash or have them order the 19 inch full crash.

also what sound charecteristics differ from 19 full to 18 inch power?

thanks alot[/QUOTE]
ID GO WITH A WUHAN DOGGG!

Futuro 05-07-2005 11:03 AM

[QUOTE=joemarsh]ID GO WITH A WUHAN DOGGG![/QUOTE]


is this a joke cause i didnt laugh and whats wuhan have to do with crash cymbals

boss 05-07-2005 12:28 PM

wuhan has crash cymbals

zildjian1992 05-07-2005 12:36 PM

Could any one here describe the sound of an old Z light Power Ride? :p

spiritII 05-07-2005 12:44 PM

[QUOTE=boss]wuhan has crash cymbals[/QUOTE]

Ok, so he should have rephrased it. What does Wuhan have to do with Paiste cymbals? Answer: nothing.

Murd_666 05-07-2005 03:51 PM

They May not have anything to do with paiste but they still have the Wuhan Rock Crashes, It wouldn't blend well I think..., anyways I think the 19 or 20" Full/Power Crash should do it for ya....

Futuro 05-07-2005 04:41 PM

the only thing i like in the wuhan line are splashes and chinas. have you played the 19 inch full and 18 power murd?

Murd_666 05-07-2005 05:03 PM

ya but I like the 20" ones I'd go with a 20"... but try 18" power anyways it should work, actually It would work for u, but be pretty loud...

GreenDay4Life 05-07-2005 05:48 PM

Did anyone know you pronounce Paste, Past-ee.

bobby__johnny 05-07-2005 06:45 PM

[QUOTE=shadow_stalker]why? i save money if i buy them all together[/QUOTE]

true, but your playing roulette with sound. better to be safe and get them seperate. your only saving about 10%

[quote]also what sound charecteristics differ from 19 full to 18 inch power?
[/quote]

he 19" Full would be generally lower pitched than the 18" Power...which would be brighter, sharper, and more cutting.

[quote]Did anyone know you pronounce Paste, Past-ee.[/quote]

actually, its "pie-stee"

Epiphender 05-07-2005 09:45 PM

If I find a used Sabian AA raw ride for $130 Canadian, should I buy it? I've tried it out so I know I like the sound.

Can someone describe to me what to look for when checking it over? I've never seen cymbal cracks so I'm not sure if they're nearly invisible sometimes or what.

sublimeisnice 05-07-2005 11:09 PM

[QUOTE=faith+1]as of now i own 1 crash its a 18 inch full crash, and the shops around me do not carry any cymbal bigger than that in size unless ordered. i would like to know if i should go with the 18 power crash or have them order the 19 inch full crash.

also what sound charecteristics differ from 19 full to 18 inch power?

thanks alot[/QUOTE]


in this case id go with the 18" power...they will amtch up fine, i think having the same cymbal 1" is a little wasteful...however you could try to get your hands on a 16" full crash, i dont think they make 20's...or what i would do is sell the 18" on ebay, and goto the store and get the 17" and 19 " full crash. i really like odd sizes for some reason.

Matter 05-08-2005 12:04 AM

Sorry fellaz but again the Paiste Dimensions power crashes ownz the Paiste Signature power crashes. I had an 18'' Paiste full crash for awhile but it didn't cut through the music like I wanted and it was one of the only cymbals I've ever cracked.

shadow_stalker 05-08-2005 06:23 AM

[QUOTE=Der Meister]say you bought the stage pack. You get stage crash/hats/ride. You might not like the stage crash as much as the rock crash and then you'll be wanting to upgrade and costing yourself more money. Unless you like all 3 in the pack the best in which case gte it.[/QUOTE]

hmm i'll try before i buy just to make sure.

chuckdrums 05-08-2005 01:46 PM

I'm looking for a new crash cymbal thats not to over powering, not alot of sestain, strong, and cheap.

TTTSNB 05-08-2005 02:35 PM

[QUOTE=chuckdrums]I'm looking for a new crash cymbal thats not to over powering, not alot of sestain, strong, and cheap.[/QUOTE]
hmm. 16" Pro Crash?

LarsAgi007 05-08-2005 03:29 PM

[QUOTE=playwithfire]What's a more versatile, controllable ride, 21" A Rock, or 22" A Ping? It needs to be useful in a variety of settings, but be strong enough to be heard over 2 guitars and a bass in a live setting.[/QUOTE]

I have a Sabian AAA, Its a really controllable ride, Does a great job.. Not too expensive either :D

[SIZE=1](Word of warning: Dont drop it, It really deafens you lol) [/SIZE]

Der Meister 05-08-2005 04:00 PM

[quote]12-24-2004, 04:16 AM[/quote]

I think he's decided since then

Futuro 05-08-2005 04:56 PM

[QUOTE=Matter]Sorry fellaz but again the Paiste Dimensions power crashes ownz the Paiste Signature power crashes. I had an 18'' Paiste full crash for awhile but it didn't cut through the music like I wanted and it was one of the only cymbals I've ever cracked.[/QUOTE]

ive also noticed the 18 full doesnt cut like other cymbals do, but i love the sound and now im looking to buy one that will cut through.so would a dimensions power be a better match than the signature power?

and im not a real heavy hitter (i dont tap them either) but the only cymbal ive cracked in my four years (big woop) has been a zildjian A custom.

Murd_666 05-08-2005 05:56 PM

[QUOTE]in this case id go with the 18" power...they will amtch up fine, i think having the same cymbal 1" is a little wasteful...however you could try to get your hands on a 16" full crash, i dont think they make 20's...or what i would do is sell the 18" on ebay, and goto the store and get the 17" and 19 " full crash. i really like odd sizes for some reason.[/QUOTE]I know for a fact u can get a 20" sig full crash

bobby__johnny 05-08-2005 05:58 PM

you can get any sized Full Crash you want....you'll pay your *** for it though.

Futuro 05-08-2005 06:05 PM

so what about the dimensions 18 inch power, and the 18 sig power?
im not gonna go with another cymbal in full line cause i want something to cut through 2 guitars a bass and singer. but also sound in compliance with the 18 full.

sorry you guys for how many posts i have in the last few days on here, but cymbals are big investments

boss 05-08-2005 09:54 PM

I have 14" XS20 rock hats and a 20" XS20 rock ride
I can update the hats to 14" AAX stage hats ($210 cdn) or to a 21" HH Raw bell dry ride ($255 cdn)

Which is the better buy/upgrade?

Epiphender 05-08-2005 10:32 PM

[QUOTE=boss]I have 14" XS20 rock hats and a 20" XS20 rock ride
I can update the hats to 14" AAX stage hats ($210 cdn) or to a 21" HH Raw bell dry ride ($255 cdn)

Which is the better buy/upgrade?[/QUOTE]

Unless the ride upgrade is quite a bit cheaper than the hat upgrade, I'd get the new hats first because I use them a lot more.

I play B8s except for my AAX crash. I would upgrade hats first, but I found a $130 used AA raw ride. Should I buy it?

bobby__johnny 05-09-2005 09:33 AM

[quote]I have 14" XS20 rock hats and a 20" XS20 rock ride
I can update the hats to 14" AAX stage hats ($210 cdn) or to a 21" HH Raw bell dry ride ($255 cdn)

Which is the better buy/upgrade?[/quote]

i'd say go for the ride. i've played some XS20 hats that were more than good sounding. the rides arent too great, and the crashes are hit or miss....go with the ride first.

[quote]I play B8s except for my AAX crash. I would upgrade hats first, but I found a $130 used AA raw ride. Should I buy it?[/quote]

if you like the sound, and its in good condition, then yes.

[size=5][b] *** Post # 8,000 ***[/b][/size]

Futuro 05-09-2005 11:26 AM

i went to a local shop yesterday to check out the dimension line when i was informed that it is no more, they replaced it with the big beat series. any other recommendations for a powerful crash that will blend well with 18 inch full .

it does not have to be a paiste any brand would be ok.

Dave*Grohl 05-09-2005 11:40 AM

[QUOTE=faith+1]i went to a local shop yesterday to check out the dimension line when i was informed that it is no more, they replaced it with the big beat series. any other recommendations for a powerful crash that will blend well with 18 inch full .

it does not have to be a paiste any brand would be ok.[/QUOTE]


Paiste 2002

Futuro 05-09-2005 11:50 AM

ya i checked one out yesterday and really liked it it was a 2002 18 inch power crash but i didnt have my crash im going to pair it with at the time, so ill have to check it out tonight


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