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Grey Incision 12-19-2004 08:44 PM

yeah, i would say he probably would be a better bassist, but you don't know, since the bass lines in the old stuff is quite prominent, in the new stuff, it's just there, ya know?

Cardboard Headgear 12-19-2004 08:50 PM

Right, but if Mendez went off the way DeFarfalla did it wouldn't sound good at all with Opeth's current sound. Sometimes the better bass player is the one who knows when NOT to play. Mendez's style fits Opeth's current sound perfectly, he locks in with Lopez and makes a solid rythmn section for the guitars to do their thing over.

Grey Incision 12-19-2004 08:58 PM

that's true, and even in a song like blackwater park, he's shown us he can shine a little, so all is well.

Gibbers3095 12-19-2004 09:59 PM

Actually, Mike wrote almost all of the bass parts for Orchid and Morningrise, which were the albums when DeFarfalla was still with the band. In my opinion, Mendez is far better than DeFarfalla was, not only because the music is better fitting, but because he can really ****ing shred on bass (just ask anyone on the Opeth threads at Ultimate Metal).

Det_Nosnip 12-19-2004 10:08 PM

Aye, he's a better musician. You have to look harder to see what he's doing, but his approach is very interesting and unique. I love the Martins. :)

opeth_oasis 12-19-2004 10:08 PM

apparently DeFarfalla was "too boring" for the band, i thought he was pretty good, his bass lines were pretty rockin

Iron Man 12-19-2004 10:11 PM

[QUOTE=Det_Nosnip]Aye, he's a better musician. You have to look harder to see what he's doing, but his approach is very interesting and unique. I love the Martins. :)[/QUOTE]

It's weird that they're both named Martin, both came from Brazil (Not sure on that one) and both joined at the same time, eh?

Det_Nosnip 12-19-2004 10:14 PM

^^ :lol: Yeah. I believe that they knew eachother, Mikael met one and that one recommended the other. It's very Quentin Tarantino-esque, though. :lol:

Those guys work together brilliantly, though...Lopez is one of my favorite drummers right now.

Cardboard Headgear 12-19-2004 10:27 PM

Yeah, Lopez joined up and then brought Mendez with him. I think it's cool how they're both trilingual too (Spanish, Swedish, and English). They're from Uraguay btw, not Brazil.

4130 12-21-2004 04:54 AM

Man, this thread has to reach 1000, so bumpity bump.

I'm trying to find Orchind, its the only album I need to complete my Opeth collection. What are the extra's on the re-issue, because it is $10 more expencive than the original so I can't decide. But you get that sexy round, silver case with the re-issue.

Grey Incision 12-21-2004 11:23 PM

yep, so there is no contest really is there

Kaiwaz 12-22-2004 08:19 PM

[QUOTE=4130]Man, this thread has to reach 1000, so bumpity bump.

I'm trying to find Orchind, its the only album I need to complete my Opeth collection. What are the extra's on the re-issue, because it is $10 more expencive than the original so I can't decide. But you get that sexy round, silver case with the re-issue.[/QUOTE]



Orchid is a great one. The recording quality isn't the greatest, but for some reason, I like it that way. I knew when I first listened to "In Mist She Was Standing" That Opeth was my new juice :thumb:
















"Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process
that he does not become a monster. And when you look long
into the abyss, the abyss also looks into you"


-Frederick Wilhelm Nietzche-

RouteOne 12-22-2004 08:26 PM

[QUOTE=Flynn]Orchid is a great one. The recording quality isn't the greatest, but for some reason, I like it that way. I knew when I first listened to "In Mist She Was Standing" That Opeth was my new juice :thumb:


















[SIZE=4]"Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process
that he does not become a monster. And when you look long
into the abys, the abyss also looks into you"



-Frederick Wilhelm Nietzche-[/QUOTE][/SIZE]


Mmmmm, good ol' Nietzche. :thumb:



How would you guys describe Mikael's growling technique? I have herd of it referred to as "whisper growling".

???

Lateralias 12-22-2004 09:37 PM

[QUOTE=amostbitterseason][/SIZE]


Mmmmm, good ol' Nietzche. :thumb:



How would you guys describe Mikael's growling technique? I have herd of it referred to as "whisper growling".

???[/QUOTE]

Whisper growling? Nah.. it's pretty strong if you ask me, not "whisper-ish"...
Though I've noticed as the albums have gone by, Mikael's growl has gotten stronger.. Deliverance has some great growling on it. I think he's got a great growl that doesn't make the music to heavy but at the same time keeps your attention only to lead you into a verse of Mikael's soft vocals, which are some of the best vocals I've ever heard... The song "Deliverance" does this for example... Mikael has a great talent :thumb:

bahamut_0 12-24-2004 03:14 PM

[QUOTE=4130]Deliverance deffinetly has the best drums, the outro is :thumb:[/QUOTE]

**** straight, I love the outro ^^

Kage 12-24-2004 03:23 PM

^That's the song/part that got me hooked

Kaiwaz 12-24-2004 07:27 PM

[QUOTE=amostbitterseason][/SIZE]


Mmmmm, good ol' Nietzche. :thumb:



How would you guys describe Mikael's growling technique? I have herd of it referred to as "whisper growling".

???[/QUOTE]


Yes I agree, I can sing along with him as long as I am whispering hehe, But his voice has bass to it, I don't know how he sings like he does. It's very Unique though :cool:







[I]
The cold season drifts over the land.
They huddle in the brown corners. Some would settle for less.
The castles were all empty, asleep. Long awaiting their king.
Beckoning round the bend.
Amidst the forest one would hear that I had been there.
Draped within a fate I could not change, and always welcoming Winter´s Epilouge. [/I] [B]-Karma-[/B]

Iron Man 12-24-2004 07:30 PM

I just recieved Deliverance as an early Christmas present, which leaves only MAYH left to get :thumb:

Kaiwaz 12-24-2004 07:43 PM

[QUOTE=Iron Man]I just recieved Deliverance as an early Christmas present, which leaves only MAYH left to get :thumb:[/QUOTE]



If you have yet to hear any tracks from My Arms, Your Hearse, I recomend you listen to all tracks on order with headphones and the booklet out. :thumb: Thats what I did and what a KICK *** experience!

Iron Man 12-24-2004 07:53 PM

[QUOTE=Flynn]If you have yet to hear any tracks from My Arms, Your Hearse, I recomend you listen to all tracks on order with headphones and the booklet out. :thumb: Thats what I did and what a KICK *** experience![/QUOTE]

I plan to get it as soon as I can find it. Then I will have all 7 albums, the DVD, AND a shirt! :p

RouteOne 12-24-2004 08:38 PM

What would you guys think of Opeth if they ever were to grace the cover of Rolling stone? Would you think of them any differently?



Btw, I know this will never happen. :upset:

Lateralias 12-24-2004 08:42 PM

[QUOTE=amostbitterseason]What would you guys think of Opeth if they ever were to grace the cover of Rolling stone? Would you think of them any differently?



Btw, I know this will never happen. :upset:[/QUOTE]

Well, Opeth are for the music, not the publicity.. to quote Mikael "If music was a woman, I'd be desperate to **** her!" hehe... if they were, I'd be suprised they got that popular, but kinda feel bad cause I wouldn't know if the band just wanted fame or what.. I guess they would go down on my scale but I'd definitely still listen to them...

Iron Man 12-24-2004 08:42 PM

No difference, these guys already have my utmost respect.

RouteOne 12-24-2004 08:44 PM

[QUOTE=Lateralias]Well, Opeth are for the music, not the publicity.. to quote Mikael "If music was a woman, I'd be desperate to **** her!" hehe... if they were, I'd be suprised they got that popular, but kinda feel bad cause I wouldn't know if the band just wanted fame or what.. I guess they would go down on my scale but I'd definitely still listen to them...[/QUOTE]

I think Opeth is one of those bands who would give the big "fuc[COLOR=White]k off"[/COLOR] to rollingstones. They, as you said, are about the music not the publicity.

Lateralias 12-24-2004 08:49 PM

[QUOTE=amostbitterseason]I think Opeth is one of those bands who would give the big "fuc[COLOR=White]k off"[/COLOR] to rollingstones. They, as you said, are about the music not the publicity.[/QUOTE]

Right on man! What I abosolutely love about Opeth...

Opeth forever...

RouteOne 12-24-2004 08:50 PM

Is there any new news about Opeth's new record????

Iron Man 12-24-2004 08:51 PM

All I know is that it's supposed to come out late-spring 2005.

RouteOne 12-24-2004 08:52 PM

[QUOTE=Iron Man]All I know is that it's supposed to come out late-spring 2005.[/QUOTE]
Gah.....I need my Opeth fix. They are like crack to me. lol

I picked up MAYH today, which completes the set, it is simpley amazing.

Lateralias 12-24-2004 08:54 PM

[QUOTE=amostbitterseason]Gah.....I need my Opeth fix. They are like crack to me. lol

I picked up MAYH today, which completes the set, it is simpley amazing.[/QUOTE]

Awesome man, yeah MAYH is a great album, of course they are all great... I finished my collection last week after getting Orchid and Morningrise, I worked my way backwards. Both albums are awesome though, vocals are different but they grow on you pretty fast. :)

Iron Man 12-24-2004 08:57 PM

What album is your favorite out of the 7? (To Lateralias and amostbitterseason)


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