[QUOTE=Shadius]I actually adore Michael's growls now, and they used to give me a headache. it's brilliant.

Anyway, I've been listening to a lot of My Arms, Your Hearse lately and I'm really starting to love this album. The atmosphere is brilliant, and the riffs are damn good, it has a lot of energy in it when you get used to it. I think the reason I didn't used to like it as much was because the clean parts arn't quite as catchy/good or as frequent as in Still Life, yet after listening to this album a few times, it has some amazing parts, and is pretty consistant too.

Does anyone else think that Opeth's older albums have more atmosphere somehow?

Actually, what I mean is, Deliverance dosn't really have much atmosphere compared to all the releases before it. I really love the overall feel of the albums from MAYH-Blackwater Park, even Ghost Reveries has a creepy atmosphere. Deliverance though... I don't know, it just seems a lot more straightforward and like a collection of songs rather than an album - which is odd considering Opeth's back catalogue.[/QUOTE]
I agree with all of that! Mikael is probably my favorite metal vocalist. He can sing, scream, and growl better than anyone I've ever heard in the genre.

Lately I've really been into My Arms, Your Hearse as well with a little Blackwater Park and Deliverance on the side. I noticed that they really progressed on that album. There was more clean singing, more clean guitar parts, and the growling was taken up a few notches. The songs were unusually short, but I could listen to When, April Ethereal, and Demon of the Fall over and over.

I think all of their albums have amazing atmosphere, but older stuff differently than the new. While listening to Orchid I heard a kind of amazing simplicity about it. The music was not as dynamic as it is now in many ways, but it was more progressive. The acoustic sections were very memorable and had a kind of folkish/dreamlike atmosphere that's hard to put into words.

The music now is almost frightening. Per's keyboards on Ghost Reveries sound very creepy and really reflect the occult themes of the album. when I first heard the album I thought it fit nicely with the rest of their work, but listening to it closely I can tell that it's really very different for them.

I think Deliverance has atmosphere, but not at all like the other ones. Wreath and Deliverance both have a very menacing tone about them, as well as Mikael's voice (like the growling in By the Pain I See in Others). Damnation and Deliverance were both much darker than their other albums.

Holy hell, I could write an essay on this band.

[QUOTE=Stormrider331]Ah ok, thats cool.

I do not own any downloaded albums :) Don't plan on doing that either.[/QUOTE]

I have too many. :( I try and buy the CDs that I can but otherwise (They are horribly overpriced) I download for about £1 per album which is cool. About 65% of my collection is actual CDs.

I need info on Damnation/Deliverance. The two were written together as a double album weren't they? I thought I remembered reading background info on th making of them, but I can't find it.

Well, if your willing to buy lamentations, theres a documentary on the making of the albums. I was very intrigued when i watched, hell I still pop it into my dvd player once a month or so.

I plan on buying it sooner or later, but I was hoping to do some writing about it, and I'm trying to make it interesting. :(

Reading through Chapter X of Opeth's bio, Mikael seems pretty pissed off about being called a sellout by fans after signing to Roadrunner. Man, I've never heard of such an insulted musician. I can't say I blame him though.

Since people are talking about vocals n such, here's a clip of some of mine from my band Successor. Mixing's being finished today hopefully, so there'll be some full songs for me to shove down everyone's throat soon.

[url]http://s21.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2EO0OY0RR72U10JRT5D1IGEQWY[/url]

Yeah, so Opeth was incredible last night. Mikael was a little sick, and at first his clean vocals sounded a bit off, but then he really picked it up, and it was incredible...

I was crushed the whole time between moshers and people just pushing. Normally, I [I]loath[/I] being pushed around, but this time, I actually liked having my ribs get crushed. It was awesome, the setlist was the same as the rest, and it was a lot better then I thought it was going to be. My bassist took this giant 7x6 bed sheet and painted the Opeth O on it, and it looked awesome. So we managed to get it in (after a little stint with a security guard) and we got someone (who wasn't a minor) to go up onto the balcony and then hang it off facing the band. Mikael saw it, and was something like "Oh! thats very nice! You know, thats not the Swedish flag..." and then went on to talk about how most Swede's don't care about patriotism at all. It was pretty good. There was some other funny stuff, but I don't feel like getting into it.

Dark Tranquil also rocked my a[I]s[/I]s off, they all kept reaching out the crowd and stuff, and I touched there hands a couple times. :cool: We just went and played arcades during Devil Driver... They had big pits, but I wasn't interested in that at all.

I also bought a Still Life shirt, which is awesome. And today, at the mall, I went to the CD store I get everything from. And they had Still Life in stock... they never have anything pre BWP! So I bought it.. for 16 bucks! They also had Orchid, for 26 bucks, but I had it already anyway...

Good times. The few times I've seen Orchid it's been the cheapest album actually. :confused: Besides, I've never seen My arms your hearse in stock.

The only bought CD I do not have is Morningrise, now... I'll get it soon enough.

Tojes, how much was Orchid when you saw it ?

Thats pretty cool, Dunkelheit. I want a Still Life shirt.

Yep, I need to buy some albums. And big headphones for college, although some kids at my school who are also musicians and I are going to the same university, so we may share music and all that jazz. Yeah. School-

[QUOTE=ShadowsFallen]I need info on Damnation/Deliverance. The two were written together as a double album weren't they? I thought I remembered reading background info on th making of them, but I can't find it.[/QUOTE]

Yes. Well, no. As they were recording, they had a lot of heavy parts, and a lot of acoustic parts that didn't really fit the rest of the stuff, so someone (that's not mentioned, I think) came up with the idea of making 2 albums, a mellow one and a heavy, but not precisely a "double album". Just two different albums.

[QUOTE=Stormrider331]Tojes, how much was Orchid when you saw it ?

Thats pretty cool, Dunkelheit. I want a Still Life shirt.[/QUOTE]

It was 20-21 dollars, more or less. The rest were like $24-$26.

^Yeah, but Mikael had wanted to do that idea since the 90s, it was only then that they had the support they needed to actually do the 2 albums.

[QUOTE=TojesDoLan]It was 20-21 dollars, more or less. The rest were like $24-$26.[/QUOTE]

Ah lucky. I would have gotten the album a long time ago if it was that price. It;s 30.99 here :-/

So I guess I'll be ordering it.

[QUOTE=Dunkelheit509]Yeah, so Opeth was incredible last night. Mikael was a little sick, and at first his clean vocals sounded a bit off, but then he really picked it up, and it was incredible...

I was crushed the whole time between moshers and people just pushing. Normally, I [I]loath[/I] being pushed around, but this time, I actually liked having my ribs get crushed. It was awesome, the setlist was the same as the rest, and it was a lot better then I thought it was going to be. My bassist took this giant 7x6 bed sheet and painted the Opeth O on it, and it looked awesome. So we managed to get it in (after a little stint with a security guard) and we got someone (who wasn't a minor) to go up onto the balcony and then hang it off facing the band. Mikael saw it, and was something like "Oh! thats very nice! You know, thats not the Swedish flag..." and then went on to talk about how most Swede's don't care about patriotism at all. It was pretty good. There was some other funny stuff, but I don't feel like getting into it.

Dark Tranquil also rocked my a[I]s[/I]s off, they all kept reaching out the crowd and stuff, and I touched there hands a couple times. :cool: We just went and played arcades during Devil Driver... They had big pits, but I wasn't interested in that at all.

I also bought a Still Life shirt, which is awesome. And today, at the mall, I went to the CD store I get everything from. And they had Still Life in stock... they never have anything pre BWP! So I bought it.. for 16 bucks! They also had Orchid, for 26 bucks, but I had it already anyway...[/QUOTE]


That's awesome, too bad you missed DevilDriver though. So what song did [B]O[/B]peth play last?

I watched a bit of DevilDriver... just wasn't interested. Opeth encored with Deliverance. Which Mikael made us cheer for like 5 min before he finally said "fine, we'll play.. but we don't want to bore you"

I wish they had Still Life shirts when I went to my show. I have a nice GR one with the Devil being summoned though.

I bought a Still Live shirt. It's unbelievably sexy. :cool:

I can't believe I never liked Deliverance before. Every single song on this album is amazing. It does have some of their heaviest moments, but it has much more than that.

Yeah, it's a sweet album. A Fair Judgement is one of my favorite Opeth songs.

NP: Deliverance \m/

Deliverance still bores me a bit, though the last 3 minutes or so of it were one of the coolest concert experiences ever. Almost nonstop headbanging.

Master's Apprentices, though, is teh secks.

A Fair Judgement, For Absent Friends, and Master's Apprentices are probably my favorites. Although Wreath, Deliverance, and By the Pain I See in Others have are nothing to ignore. I must buy this album.

Deliverance is an amazing album and I don't know why Opeth fans don't rate it higher. The title song itself has some of the most incredible parts of any Opeth songs, so many changes in mood. And that clean vocal part "the piercing sounds you make..."

I wasn't very into A Fair Judgement the last time I listened to it...which was a while ago. I'de have to listen to it again.

Dilverance is indeed one of my favorite Opeth albums. I also think every song is awesome.

[QUOTE=Dunkelheit509]^Yeah, but Mikael had wanted to do that idea since the 90s, it was only then that they had the support they needed to actually do the 2 albums.[/QUOTE]
Ah yes. Well he needed support to make an album that resembled to his 60's-70's influences. I'd really like to know what are the exact names. I've heard Camel for "Ending credits"... but I can't find the song he based it on... -___-

[QUOTE=Dunkelheit509]Dilverance is indeed one of my favorite Opeth albums. I also think every song is awesome.[/QUOTE]

Oh yeah man, I love Deliverance. I can still remember a long time ago when quite a few people in this thread trashed it, but I always stuck up for it. It's [B]O[/B]peth's 2nd heaviest album IMO.

What's their first?

The Hearse, probably. I still think Deliverance may be a bit heavier though...

Nope, Still Life for the win.

[QUOTE=ShadowsFallen]What's their first?[/QUOTE]


My Arms, Your Hearse I think.

[QUOTE=TojesDoLan]Nope, Still Life for the win.[/QUOTE]
For heaviest? Are you mad?!

You might be right. The way When comes crashing in after that clean intro - very brutal. I'd say Deliverance is close though.

Despite it has some of the softest by Opeth (Benighted and Face of Melinda, c'mon) It also has way more heavy stuff.

And My arms, your hearse.... eh it has it's moments, but I don't know.

I still have to make some serious considerations.

For real. Oh wait, Deliverance has very, very counted acoustic moments. Even less than MAYH.

[QUOTE=ShadowsFallen]You might be right. The way When comes crashing in after that clean intro - very brutal. I'd say Deliverance is close though.[/QUOTE]



Yeah they are real close. Although, Deliverance is lacking in the area of the fierce double kick that MAYH has, and all out screaming, the riffs and growls on Deliverance make up for it. I think MAYH has some of the most twisted and evil riffs I've ever heard. Superb guitar work by Akerfeldt, including bass.

I think the druming is pretty fierce on Deliverance, I'm sure you all know Wreath. And that first Chorus to By the Pain I see In Others is crazy heavy.

Definitely, Wreath has some extremely heavy moments in it, and expecially By The Pain I See In Others. When comparing MAYH and Deliverance, I really do think MAYH is heavier, not by far though...as once I've stated Deliverance as [B]O[/B]peth's heaviest album in my own words. Dealing with the Hearse, every song except Prologue, Madrigal, Credence, and Epilogue have heavy attributes, especially Karma. That song is so lethal, love how it ends. That's one of [B]O[/B]peth's heaviest moments, IMO.

Deliverance to me is more straight up metal than anything else by opeth. Using E as a pedal tone in the intro, more power chords in this song than most, Tight rhythms and sweet solos.
The first song i liked by opeth

[QUOTE=aphotic__713]Deliverance to me is more straight up metal than anything else by opeth. Using E as a pedal tone in the intro, more power chords in this song than most, Tight rhythms and sweet solos.
The first song i liked by opeth[/QUOTE]


I absolutely love Deliverance. It's a great song to listen to every day, and not get sick of. It's a perfect title track, definitely my favorite title track of all bands/songs.

Wreath has some pretty badass heavy metal shredding though, I almost starting drooling when I heard it.

[SIZE=2]I was recently wondering what Mikaels most wanker moments was. Possibly the solo in the grand conjuration.[/SIZE]
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[SIZE=2]Yea deliverance is awesome, i can listen to the song constantly, that goes for the whole album too.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=2]I just started getting sick of listening to morningrise recently. But my favorite moment of morningrise is in Nectar, when it goes acoustic. I absolutely love that part. [/SIZE]