His screaming vocals are pretty Black Metal to me.

Just bought Triumph Or Agony by Rhapsody today and boy does it ever sound splendid on CD. MP3s are the ghey.

[QUOTE=Hawks10Pec;16224817]His screaming vocals are pretty Black Metal to me.[/QUOTE]

Vocals =/= Genre

[QUOTE=pate;16224811]There is nothing black metal about Wintersun.[/QUOTE]

thanks.

[QUOTE=pate;16223535]None of the 3 should be active.[/QUOTE]

the past two Firewind albums have been awesome :(

I just think they're really boring. Their vocalists always annoyed me too.

Apollo is way better than the previous one though.

[QUOTE=pate;16225734]Apollo is way better than the previous one though.[/QUOTE]

Apollo is one of my favorite power metal vocalists actually.

Or you could just say that Wintersun mix Power Metal, which is melodic by nature, with some death and folk elements. I hear no real black metal parts to their songs. I'd still put them in Power Metal without hesitation if I was making a list.

Jason: Australian for Truth

Wintersun are terrible though.

Nearly as bad as Nightwish, I agree.

I seriously can't believe you just said that

Which statement? Mine? =-o

yes...yours

Nightwish is pretty terrible though.

Nightwish is seriously hard for me to listen to, I am quite afraid to say.

[QUOTE=Cocaine;16230453]Nightwish is pretty terrible though.[/QUOTE]

ummmm......no

[QUOTE=Riva;16230474]Nightwish is seriously hard for me to listen to, I am quite afraid to say.[/QUOTE]

Quite a shame.

The only Nightwish I like is the new one.

[quote]Nightwish is seriously hard for me to listen to, I am quite afraid to say.[/quote]
Yeah, I don't like them very much either.

[QUOTE=pate;16231697]The only Nightwish I like is the new one.[/QUOTE]

liking some Nightwish makes you cool in this user's eyes.

Everyone else who doesn't is pooey, lol.

I am jk. Riva and Cocaine introduced me to Lost Horizon. That enough makes them alright in my book.

My friend actually started talking to me about them yesterday on our way home (the same one who likes Lordi).

She was like, "Mike, do you know who Nightwish is? They seem like somebody you'd like."

She also got into them through Ghost Love Score, 130% bitchin' in my book.

[quote]She was like, "Mike, do you know who Nightwish is? They seem like somebody you'd like."[/quote]

:lol: She didn't know you liked Nightwish before yesterday?

I was shocked too...

In my quite arrogant opinion, Nightwish doesn't do anything for me that I can't get from Therion, except Therion have other elements also. So Nightwish is the loser. But in a lot of cases it depends on which one you heard first, I suppose.

Both Therion and Nightwish tend to make me break out into laughter, but for different reasons. Nightwish because they're ridiculous and Tarja's voice was irritating, and Therion because it was just so unbelievably overthetop.

Hehe, yeah, they do get more and more over the top as time goes on. Which album was it, Tyler? [I]Gothic Kabalah[/I]?

[QUOTE=Riva;16233899]In my quite arrogant opinion, Nightwish doesn't do anything for me that I can't get from Therion, except Therion have other elements also. So Nightwish is the loser. But in a lot of cases it depends on which one you heard first, I suppose.[/QUOTE]

I am curious what other elements they have that Nightwish doesn't?

[QUOTE=Riva;16233952]Hehe, yeah, they do get more and more over the top as time goes on. Which album was it, Tyler? [I]Gothic Kabalah[/I]?[/QUOTE]

Nah it was an album that came with another, like a double album or something.

[QUOTE=PoetandthePendulum;16233955]I am curious what other elements they have that Nightwish doesn't?[/QUOTE]

I think they use choral male vocals much better, plus they also have outstanding classical arrangements. And the music isn't dominated by one woman's gradually grating voice. The subject matter of Therion's songs is also more interesting to me, but that's hardly an objective point.

[QUOTE=Cocaine;16233965]Nah it was an album that came with another, like a double album or something.[/QUOTE]

[I]Lemuria[/I] and [I]Sirius B[/I], then. The first half of [I]Sirius B[/I] gets rather cheesy, but I would think it's more like Rhapsody or Manowar cheesy than anything. I know what you mean if [I]Lemuria[/I] is the specific album you're thinking of, though I still love it.