He doesn't like Von because it's not ambient folk/viking metal with black metal influences and wizard vocals.

wizard vocals are the best vocals

LOL, the wizard vocals in Isengard are hilarious.

i havent listened to isengard since like

last summer

VON's highly influential on stuff like Transilvanian Hunger and Hvis Lyset Tar Oss for that "entrancing" repetativeness....but I understand if people don't like it.

Is this Fenriz's side project Isengard we speak of?

Isengard is horrible except for The Dark Lord Of Gorgoroth demo. All black/death stuff with some pretty good riffs and the vocals aren't queer wizard vocals.

[QUOTE=Stevie IV;16382257]Is this Fenriz's side project Isengard we speak of?[/QUOTE]

Yeah.

isengard honestly isnt that bad, i can see why you dont like them though, justin

so you consider the clean vocals of isengard to be wizard vocals? when i think of "wizard" vocals i think of gay stuff like the one eyed man in blood on ice saying "questions questions ...."

isengard's alright but it's nothing special. i like "the storm of evil"...rather depressing

the singing is really entertaining, imo

[QUOTE=dinosaurxbrocore;16382266]isengard honestly isnt that bad, i can see why you dont like them though, justin[/QUOTE]

I like Isengard. Well, I only like [I]Dark Lord Of Gorgoroth[/I]. Everything else can **** off.

spectres if you please :p

that demo is pure black metal, the rest isn't

[QUOTE=Stevie IV;16382273]spectres if you please :p

that demo is pure black metal, the rest isn't[/QUOTE]

Yeah that's what I meant :)

Isengard is good

Von is very bad

I enjoy Isengard. When it comes to bm though, im a sargeist guy all the way.

Sargeist? They suck.

[QUOTE=RetiredAt21;16382331]Sargeist? They suck.[/QUOTE]

I suppose you are entitled to your opinion, although it is rather poor one...

Sorry, let me rephrase, i love Darkthrone, Emperor, and Dissection...you know....the good ones...lol.

The only good Sargeist song is Black ****ing Murder.

So Nokturnal Mortum's Weltanschauung and Nachtmystium's Instinct: Decay are great.

I hate Nokturnal Mortum (even though I've tried numerous times to get into them) and Nachtmystium has a couple alright songs, I gues.

[QUOTE=RetiredAt21;16382343]The only good Sargeist song is Black ****ing Murder.[/QUOTE]

You dont like the entire Satanic black devotion album? I personally think its great. I really enjoy the simplicity and sense of melody on that album. What about summoning?

I don't like Summoning at all.

[quote=RetiredAt21;16382347]I hate Nokturnal Mortum (even though I've tried numerous times to get into them) and Nachtmystium has a couple alright songs, I gues.[/quote]

noes :(

lol man, what do you like?

[QUOTE=CymrychHugh;16382354]lol man, what do you like?[/QUOTE]

Nothing.

He likes grindcore

That's not all I like. I like lots of other stuff.

He likes that crossover \m/

[QUOTE=Luc214;16382345]So Nokturnal Mortum's Weltanschauung and Nachtmystium's Instinct: Decay are great.[/QUOTE]

Nachtmystium grew off of me really quick

[QUOTE=south_of_heaven 11;16382450]He likes that crossover \m/[/QUOTE]

That I do. \m/

Crucial Unit
Municpal Waste
Cross Examination
Wehrmacht

Guys it's pretty clear that Retired doesn't like anything that is folk/symphonic/ambient/anything outside so I don't know why anyone would actually accept his opinion.

[quote]Nachtmystium has a couple alright songs, I gues.[/quote]

lol I remember a couple months ago you were jerking off to them so badly.

I like ambient, but yeah I don't really like symphonic stuff. I just don't like it.

NeChrist and Goat Horns from Nokturnal Mortum are really good. Everything else i heard from them sucked *** and Minas Morgul is the only good album by Summoning.

lol you like NeChrist but not Lunar Poetry or Welchansughsnksjfkjk.

Oh and fu[I]c[/I]k off about MM being the only good Summoning album, it's not even in their top 4.

sargeist hate itt is mad gay

Ambient = shitty produced LLN noise

moevot are the definitive ambient band imo

Microphone in rat >>>> moevot