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Shattered_Future 03-08-2006 03:59 PM

I can't scream, but I can growl. And rather well, I think...

Shadows 03-08-2006 04:05 PM

I can do a Phlegton style growl. It's very easy and sounds great when I cup my hand around the mic.

Now that I have every Opeth album, I can't believe I didn't like Still Life and Deliverance before. I now know this band has never released a bad album.

Darkness 03-08-2006 04:18 PM

[QUOTE=Kelvin]Going to see opeth in four hours!!!!:)[/QUOTE]
Where you at? me to dude!

LOOVER 03-08-2006 04:31 PM

3 1/2 hours now guys. Can't wait.

Shattered_Future 03-08-2006 04:34 PM

Still Life I'm still attempting to get into, but Deliverance i adore. Some great material on there...

Master's Apprentices and By The Pain I See In Others = \m/ worthy.

Kelvin 03-08-2006 04:34 PM

Edmonton man. I'm going to the mall real soon to see if they might be walking around.

TojesDolan 03-08-2006 04:52 PM

[QUOTE=Shattered_Future]Still Life I'm still attempting to get into, but Deliverance i adore. Some great material on there...

Master's Apprentices and By The Pain I See In Others = \m/ worthy.[/QUOTE]
I like the backward-going solo that's played and other lead-guitar things, but overall it feels like... a song from the first couple albumns... you know, the riffs aren't all very tight together... but I still like that song a lot.

Anyway, I don't know excatly how many octaves I can sing to, but I suppose they aren't many. I can growl at times, but after too much growling, it just fades and sounds godawful. I don't have a very high pitch, either. I think bass or something like that. yeah.

Shattered_Future 03-08-2006 04:55 PM

I have a voice where I can do the low stuff Dani Filth does without a pitchshifter, and a falsetto where I can sing I Believe In A Thing Called Love (the chorus) on key and on octave, but no midrange. It blows. :amaze:

Shadows 03-08-2006 05:18 PM

I have that exact same thing, except I have an adequate midrange. I can sing Mikael's clean parts when he doesn't go extremely high. It does pay to come from a family of singers, only I wish I was as good as my parents. :(

Shattered_Future 03-08-2006 05:32 PM

I mean, I can hit most stuff on pitch (usually...at least, I think I can) but I don't have a powerful voice at all. It kinda sucks, as I'm a huge guy...

Kage 03-08-2006 06:02 PM

[QUOTE=Shattered_Future]Still Life I'm still attempting to get into, but Deliverance i adore. Some great material on there...

Master's Apprentices and By The Pain I See In Others = \m/ worthy.[/QUOTE]
The best parts of the album Deliverance for me are Mike's amazing guitar solos. Some of his best licks on there.

Stormrider 03-08-2006 06:33 PM

[QUOTE=ShadowsFallen]Now that I have every Opeth album, I can't believe I didn't like Still Life and Deliverance before. I now know this band has never released a bad album.[/QUOTE]

Didn't you just have 2 Opeth abums yesterday ?

Oh well...

NP Blind Guardian - Bards Song In the Forest live

[QUOTE=Shattered Furture]I mean, I can hit most stuff on pitch (usually...at least, I think I can) but I don't have a powerful voice at all. It kinda sucks, as I'm a huge guy...[/QUOTE]

Same here.

Deth 03-08-2006 07:39 PM

I can pull of Dark Tranquillity style vocals as well as the less intense growls (The Moor and stuff) decently. My clean voice isn't anything to write home about though.

Shadius 03-08-2006 07:54 PM

Does anyone have Opeth's version of Iron Maiden's [i]Remember Tomorrow[/i] that they could upload and send to my email?

[email]junkiesandwhores@hotmail.com[/email]

I would love you so much if someone could do that for me, I don't have it here on my computer at University, and I have a huge craving to hear it.

Deth 03-08-2006 07:55 PM

[QUOTE=Shadius]Does anyone have Opeth's version of Iron Maiden's [i]Remember Tomorrow[/i] that they could upload and send to my email?

[email]junkiesandwhores@hotmail.com[/email]

I would love you so much if someone could do that for me, I don't have it here on my computer at University, and I have a huge craving to hear it.[/QUOTE]
I'll start now.

Panvium 03-08-2006 07:57 PM

Could I get that too please?

[email]ObsoL33T@hotmail.com[/email]

Deth 03-08-2006 07:59 PM

Sure.

Toaster 03-08-2006 07:59 PM

[QUOTE=Shattered_Future]I mean, I can hit most stuff on pitch (usually...at least, I think I can) but I don't have a powerful voice at all. It kinda sucks, as I'm a huge guy...[/QUOTE]

Yeah, the worst part about my singing voice is how weak it sounds. It's pretty nasal and thin. I can sing in pitch though.

I'll send you Remember Tomorrow, Shadius.

Whoops, never mind.

Moses 03-08-2006 08:02 PM

[QUOTE=Toaster]Yeah, the worst part about my singing voice is how weak it sounds. It's pretty nasal and thin. I can sing in pitch though.

I'll send you Remember Tomorrow, Shadius.

Whoops, never mind.[/QUOTE]
Get vocal lessons. It'll help your tone, pitch control and range and singing in general along with making your voice stronger. Anyone can benefit from vocal lessons.

gmoneyguy 03-08-2006 08:02 PM

[QUOTE=Toaster]Yeah, the worst part about my singing voice is how weak it sounds. It's pretty nasal and thin. I can sing in pitch though.

I'll send you Remember Tomorrow, Shadius.

Whoops, never mind.[/QUOTE]
try to sing from your gut, and lift your soft pallet when you singing. It will create a thick and more heady tone. Trying to sing in an operatic tone will help you trying to get a fuller tone.

Moses 03-08-2006 08:04 PM

[QUOTE=guitrguy]try to sing from your gut, and lift your soft pallet when you singing. It will create a thick and more heady tone. Trying to sing in an operatic tone will help you trying to get a fuller tone.[/QUOTE]
You can't really get the operatic tone by trying though, you can find it but it takes alot of exploration in your own voice or have a vocal teacher coach you.

Definately sing with your gut though.

Deth 03-08-2006 08:06 PM

Song is sent to both who requested it.

Toaster 03-08-2006 08:07 PM

[QUOTE=Moses]Get vocal lessons. It'll help your tone, pitch control and range and singing in general along with making your voice stronger. Anyone can benefit from vocal lessons.[/QUOTE]

I'd love to, but I'm far too self-conscious. I'd even be embarrassed to ask my parents.

I have a great falsetto (I think), but I have a terribly weak-sounding head voice.. my falsetto is actually stronger and thicker than my head voice.

Moses 03-08-2006 08:10 PM

[QUOTE=Toaster]I'd love to, but I'm far too self-conscious. I'd even be embarrassed to ask my parents.

I have a great falsetto (I think), but I have a terribly weak-sounding head voice.. my falsetto is actually stronger and thicker than my head voice.[/QUOTE]
Sing from the bottom of your gut. Also try the vocal lessons in the Jam Session section of the forums.

Toaster 03-08-2006 08:13 PM

[QUOTE=Moses]Sing from the bottom of your gut. Also try the vocal lessons in the Jam Session section of the forums.[/QUOTE]

I've been checking those lessons out for the past few months, actually. Merkaba is quite the teacher. I'd be able to use his lessons more effectively if I had more practice time.. the only time I can really belt it is when no one else is home, which is almost never.

Shadius 03-08-2006 08:32 PM

[QUOTE=Deth]Song is sent to both who requested it.[/QUOTE]

You're a star, man! Brilliant.

And thanks Toaster, for offering.

Shadows 03-08-2006 09:40 PM

I've come to the conclusion that Opeth is a really good band.

[SIZE=1]By the Pain I See in Others ftw[/SIZE]

^Dream~Theater^ 03-08-2006 09:41 PM

Just got back from the show. Devildriver kicked the hell outta DT and possibly Opeth, no wonder they played after them, absolutely brutal and they were filming for the live DVD so people were going insane. Not one person had any respect for the security gaurds, I guess one guy pissed them off so much they beat him down and tossed him in a puddle outside, pretty rank. Opeth was good, my neck hurt so much it was kinda hard to enjoy them, they played:
Ghost Of Perdition
White Cluster
The Amen Corner
Baying Of The Hounds
Closure
Under The Weeping Moon
The Grand Conjuration(Still awful)
The Drapery Falls
Demon Of The Fall

The drumming was more than excellent, They definately found a very good replacement for Lopez on this tour. Imo DevilDriver stole the show though, they had the most raw energy and kept everything going at all times, Dez has very good stage presence. At one point Dez looked at the security gaurds that were standing up on the railing catching the crowd surfers getting in the way, and Dez looks at them and says "You mind getting the F uck outta the way so I can interact with the fans, It's a free country boys, They sure didnt seem to like that anyway. All in all it was a good night, except for all the 13/14 year olds who thought they were so hardcore there.

Kaiwaz 03-08-2006 10:02 PM

[QUOTE=^Dream~Theater^]Imo DevilDriver stole the show though, they had the most raw energy and kept everything going at all times, Dez has very good stage presence. At one point Dez looked at the security gaurds that were standing up on the railing catching the crowd surfers getting in the way, and Dez looks at them and says "You mind getting the F uck outta the way so I can interact with the fans, It's a free country boys, They sure didnt seem to like that anyway. All in all it was a good night, except for all the 13/14 year olds who thought they were so hardcore there.[/QUOTE]

I told you man, they kick major a[SIZE="2"]s[/SIZE]s live. Dez is cool as hell. I wouldn't mind seeing them for a 3rd time.

Demon Of The Fall huh, you lucky ......

gmoneyguy 03-08-2006 10:12 PM

I can't wait until the 19th its going to rock so fuc[size=2]k[/size]ing hard

Det_Nosnip 03-08-2006 10:20 PM

[QUOTE=Deth]I can pull of Dark Tranquillity style vocals as well as the less intense growls (The Moor and stuff) decently. My clean voice isn't anything to write home about though.[/QUOTE]

Wow, nice. Stanne has a really unique growling style, especially on the later albums.

Killtacular 03-08-2006 10:25 PM

What's the deal with Lopez, nowadays?

Is he still dealing with that cocai.... blood disease?

^Dream~Theater^ 03-08-2006 10:26 PM

[QUOTE=Flynn]I told you man, they kick major a[SIZE="2"]s[/SIZE]s live. Dez is cool as hell. I wouldn't mind seeing them for a 3rd time.

Demon Of The Fall huh, you lucky ......[/QUOTE]
ya I seen DD last year at Sotu but they had a smaller set and it was in a bigger stadium and last night we were in a nightclub called the Odeon and it wasnt the nicest place ive ever seen for a show, nice high balcony where you could watch and drink/relax, and another "middle floor" where you could stand n watch or the pit on the lower level of stairs down and it was made very nice, couldnt of asked for anything better. I was 3 people behind the gaurdrail on the left so i was like 4 feet away from the guitarists all the time, man I watched the bald guitar from Dd and he just hammerred out the whole time, he got real into it, I love when bands get right into it like the fans. I was suprised at how talented their drummer is, they had a delay before the set started and they couldnt get all the drums to sound right so, took them like 20 minutes to get them all sounding nice, but he was busting out some nice beats on em while he was waiting. I cant wait for another Devildriver show, I will definately be right in there. As for Opeth again, Everytime the band would stop in between songs, everyone was screaming Demon of the fall, everytime. And then they said last song, drapery falls, then they left for a bit and came back and said i guess we will play another song for you, and he just used this insane scream and said Demon, waited a few seconds and said of the fall. I dunno, i got the craziest adrenaline rush ever when he said that. Was anyone else in Saskatoon that night?

Moses 03-08-2006 11:08 PM

I don't like Devildriver's music but they definately have an awesome live show. However, Opeth were the stars at the show I saw. They just molded the audience.

Slapping Penguin 03-09-2006 12:37 AM

[QUOTE]Yeah the band sounds really great but the vocals kinda ruins stuff a little for me. Maybe I'll get used to it over time.[/QUOTE]

At first you will hate it, then you will love them. Opeth got me into harsh vocals.

Shadows 03-09-2006 01:34 PM

I'm going to attempt to get a friend into harsh vocals with Opeth. He developed a liking for progressive when he realized he worships Dream Theater, so I'm going to ease him into growling/screaming with some sweet, sweet Opeth.

The question is what albums to get him.

Stormrider 03-09-2006 01:45 PM

Ben, I read on the last page that you now had every Opeth album...but didn't like just a few days ago only have 2 ?

Meh, if you got them all fast, cool.

Shadows 03-09-2006 01:47 PM

I've bought two of them and have the rest downloaded. I'll be buying the rest as soon as I have money though, I'd rather support the band than strictly pirate.

Shadius 03-09-2006 01:54 PM

I actually adore Michael's growls now, and they used to give me a headache. it's brilliant.

Anyway, I've been listening to a lot of My Arms, Your Hearse lately and I'm really starting to love this album. The atmosphere is brilliant, and the riffs are damn good, it has a lot of energy in it when you get used to it. I think the reason I didn't used to like it as much was because the clean parts arn't quite as catchy/good or as frequent as in Still Life, yet after listening to this album a few times, it has some amazing parts, and is pretty consistant too.

Does anyone else think that Opeth's older albums have more atmosphere somehow?

Actually, what I mean is, Deliverance dosn't really have much atmosphere compared to all the releases before it. I really love the overall feel of the albums from MAYH-Blackwater Park, even Ghost Reveries has a creepy atmosphere. Deliverance though... I don't know, it just seems a lot more straightforward and like a collection of songs rather than an album - which is odd considering Opeth's back catalogue.

Stormrider 03-09-2006 01:58 PM

[QUOTE=ShadowsFallen]I've bought two of them and have the rest downloaded. I'll be buying the rest as soon as I have money though, I'd rather support the band than strictly pirate.[/QUOTE]

Ah ok, thats cool.

I do not own any downloaded albums :) Don't plan on doing that either.


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