Hrm?
 

Good lists and whatnot, great breakdown of everything. Just wanted to say one thing, don't care if I get flamed or not. I like linkin park, though they aren't the best band, the emphasis isn't supposed to be on crafty complex guitar work, rather the 2 lead singers and whatnot how one raps and the other sings/screams. Bleh... anywho, that's my two cents

Just to get off this subject of what is the definition of nu-metal, let me make it a little bit clearer by saying such bands as : Papa Roach, P.O.D., and Linkin Park....

[B]AREN'T METAL!!!![/B]

[QUOTE=procreationb]Just to get off this subject of what is the definition of nu-metal, let me make it a little bit clearer by saying such bands as : Papa Roach, P.O.D., and Linkin Park....

[B]AREN'T METAL!!!![/B][/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=KingofDudes]Thank you for the completely original and never said response.[/QUOTE]
wow, i love to quote myself

[QUOTE=procreationb]Just to get off this subject of what is the definition of nu-metal, let me make it a little bit clearer by saying such bands as : Papa Roach, P.O.D., and Linkin Park....

[B]AREN'T METAL!!!![/B][/QUOTE]

I'm guessing about 50-some-odd percent of this thread is posts like this now.

Look, I don't want to sound like an ***, but this whole subject has been driven into the ground. Nobody cares anymore because we're so god **** sick of hearing about it.

[QUOTE=procreationb]Just to get off this subject of what is the definition of nu-metal, let me make it a little bit clearer by saying such bands as : Papa Roach, P.O.D., and Linkin Park....

[B]AREN'T METAL!!!![/B][/QUOTE]
I agree

UHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG this thread is still getting posts? hahaha

[QUOTE=br3ad_man]Gothic Metal (I'm no metal expert, so someone do another one if mines inaccurate):

Gothic metal is an extension of Gothic Rock, which originated around the early 80s. The godfathers of gothic rock were Joy Divison. Gothic Metal is often very atmospheric and includes female vocals and keyboards very often (though not always). Gothic Metal takes the bleak and icy atmospherics of Gothic Rock, and mixes them with the aggression and loud instruments of Metal. Lyrics are often (but not always) about religion, romantic issues, mysticism and horror. Gothic music has a dress style, which was mainly taken from post punk bands of the 70s, such as The Cure and Siouxie and the Banshees. Bands include: Nightwish, Lacuna Coil, (arguably) Evanescence, The Gathering and Type O Negative.[/QUOTE]
It's party correct. There is only a problem that most people call most bands with a female vocalist gothic metal by default, but this is not true. There are many gothic metal bands that are already around for 10 years that have male vocalists. Like: Sentenced, Tiamat and Moonspell. And Evanescence is definitely not gothic metal, the vocalist sings in a normal way and not uses her voice in a 'gothic' way as in After Forever or Tristania (or very low like in Tiamat or Moonspell).
Nightwish is also called gothic metal a lot, but I think it fits better in symphonic or power metal. I mean don't listen to the vocals and there it is, all the characteristics of power metal. Gothic metal. Key bands: The Gathering, Tristania, Paradise Lost, Moonspell.. (for now)

Evanescence is gothic rock.nightwish is definitly symphonic metal.i don't that paradise lost is gothic metal, at least i'm not sure of it

You're right about Nightwish, my mistake. It's symphonic metal too...
Evanescence is just plain rock with a female vocalist.

[add]By the way, I want to make clear that 'gothic' isn't the same as 'gothic metal'. If you talk about goth/gothic music you're not referring to gothic metal, but to music like Sisters of Mercy..

[QUOTE=RivFader]Evanescence is gothic rock.nightwish is definitly symphonic metal.i don't that paradise lost is gothic metal, at least i'm not sure of it[/QUOTE]

I do not think evenescence is gothic rock at all

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Evanescence? Goth Rock? Whats gothic about Evanescence?

well then evanscence's rock

[QUOTE=schweinhunt]Judging from this forum, there is a growing trend of the 'prog intelligensia' (sarcasm); Anything with lots of incoherent wankery and songs which are long for the sake of being long has suddenly become a good thing, nevermind how little content there is in the music.[/QUOTE]


Little content, where did you get your degree?

I don't even listen to it as much as others, but I don't need to be a scientist to realize how killer some of this **** is. Show respect to developed music you can't keep up with, sorry it's too challenging at times. ;)

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good explaining the diffrent genres my band plays black metal out site is [url]www.frailconformity.tk[/url]
and u can hear my old band at [url]www.purevolume.com/withouteyes[/url] :cool:

I don't think this is the right thread to post about your band dude, this is only about metalgenres. And I haven't found any info about genres on your site.

[QUOTE=mordredozzy124]I do not think evenescence is gothic rock at all[/QUOTE]
Good to hear that I'm not the only one who thinks this way...

[QUOTE=FrailConformity]good explaining the diffrent genres my band plays black metal out site is [url]www.frailconformity.tk[/url]
and u can hear my old band at [url]www.purevolume.com/withouteyes[/url] :cool:[/QUOTE]

Dude, do not plug your band in this thread. Read the rules.

Do you think it would be overkill to define Darkwave and Coldwave? I'm not sure wether that goes in R&M or Other Music.

Crossbreed - Industrial
Susperia - transgresive metal
Cradle of Filth - melodic metal
King Diamond - Black Metal
Avenged Sevenfold - Post Hardcore
Dope - Gunk
Godhead - Industial metal
Drowning Pool - (old)strait up meatl
White Zombie - industrial speed metal
Lifeliss - were Metal

What about Alternative Metal, like Adema, Korn, Taproot or Linkin Park (They've been listed as nu-Metal, but they don't have the same sound)

[QUOTE=kornedbeef]What about Alternative Metal, like Adema, Korn, Taproot or Linkin Park (They've been listed as nu-Metal, but they don't have the same sound)[/QUOTE]

Korn started Numetal, all of those bands fall under it.

"Alternative Metal" = numetal

[QUOTE=KingofDudes]Korn started Numetal, all of those bands fall under it.

"Alternative Metal" = numetal[/QUOTE]

korn didn't start nu-metal, they continued alt-metal, listen to nu-metal bands and then korn. Korn has a very different sound from the rest of the "nu-metal catigory, i say they're alt cause they combine so much music types, they put funk, grunge, emo, and metal all together, so it wouldn't really be nu-metal, especially since they have no dj

When people think numetal, 80% of the time they think Korn. Korn pretty much started the wave of numetal.

They got the downtuned guitar, the angst lyrics, the low level of musicianship, etc.

[QUOTE=KingofDudes]When people think numetal, 80% of the time they think Korn. Korn pretty much started the wave of numetal.

They got the downtuned guitar, the angst lyrics, the low level of musicianship, etc.[/QUOTE]

I fon't agree, but whatever, nu-metal has 0 funk basslines, korn has 70% funk basslines, and if u say they have low-level musicianship i agre for the guitar, but the bagpipes, drums and bass aren't, and the guitar in their old stuff was really good, download the song James Brown by LAPD(korn from 88-92). maybe it's just me, but when I think nu-metal I think disturbed, and limp bizkit, but Adema def isn't nu-metal, cause half their music is soft, and they have really good guitar solos.

funk basslines? Its the sound of his strings scratching the fretboard. Wow if that is funk, someone call Les Claypool.

When most people think nu-metal, they think korn, limp bizket, SOAD, linkin park, etc.

[QUOTE=KingofDudes]funk basslines? Its the sound of his strings scratching the fretboard. Wow if that is funk, someone call Les Claypool.

When most people think nu-metal, they think korn, limp bizket, SOAD, linkin park, etc.[/QUOTE]

listen to the songs pretty, hey daddy, good god, somebody someone, no way, trash, for you, right now, here it comes again, everything ive known, lets get this party started, im done, jesus, sean olson, got the life, freak on a leash, its on!, dead bodies everywhere(has the rattling that fieldies known for, but if u tune it normal it's funk, I haven't tried for any of the other songs yet), and beg for me

Funk STILL has plenty of solos.

[QUOTE=schweinhunt]Funk STILL has plenty of solos.[/QUOTE]

i agree, korn need mor solos like the old days when they were LAPD

i think they have what 3 guitar solos and 1 bagpipe solo

alternative metal != nu metal

And I don't think it's a good idea to make a f*cking genre for every single band, that's just lame.

bah.....I really don't like to classify metal very much at all. Considering I like all of the sub-genres listed, I simply call it all 'metal' and leave it at that. From my experiences, sub-genres tend to just get in the way and complicate things. Although, I'll use them once in a while to describe metal, but I never classify a certain band as a certain type of metal.

Yeah sub-genres sure get in the way.... :rolleyes:

[QUOTE=kornedbeef]listen to the songs pretty, hey daddy, good god, somebody someone, no way, trash, for you, right now, here it comes again, everything ive known, lets get this party started, im done, jesus, sean olson, got the life, freak on a leash, its on!, dead bodies everywhere(has the rattling that fieldies known for, but if u tune it normal it's funk, I haven't tried for any of the other songs yet), and beg for me[/QUOTE]


Listen, pal, if you cant accept the fact that Korn is nu-metal (and crappy, at that), then you should stop writing on this forum. Everyone else who reads this forum has heard of bands like Therion and Opeth. I doubt you have, you 92.3 loving panzy. Go listen to your Korn and your Eminem and go bother people who care.

[QUOTE=JonFai]Listen, pal, if you cant accept the fact that Korn is nu-metal (and crappy, at that), then you should stop writing on this forum. Everyone else who reads this forum has heard of bands like Therion and Opeth. I doubt you have, you 92.3 loving panzy. Go listen to your Korn and your Eminem and go bother people who care.[/QUOTE]

Down boy.

I have no love for Korn either, but that kind of behavior will get you banned.

i hate flamers

[QUOTE=kornedbeef]i hate flamers[/QUOTE]

Dont post in here anymore, you arent needed.

[QUOTE=JonFai]Listen, pal, if you cant accept the fact that Korn is nu-metal (and crappy, at that), then you should stop writing on this forum. Everyone else who reads this forum has heard of bands like Therion and Opeth. I doubt you have, you 92.3 loving panzy. Go listen to your Korn and your Eminem and go bother people who care.[/QUOTE]

I happen to be a HUGE fan of Therion, Opeth, AND Korn.

I (and 99% of all people I know and talk to) have always considered Korn metal.

it's not 1998 anymore pal.

[QUOTE=Kriz864]I happen to be a HUGE fan of Therion, Opeth, AND Korn.

I (and 99% of all people I know and talk to) have always considered Korn metal.[/QUOTE]

Even when Korn themselves say that they arent metal...

^
and cof have said that they are not black metal but the fans still insist on it...

conclusion? - it's c00L to sAy tht U LiStEn tO *MeTaL*

All types of metal are crap anyway dude, start listening to bon jovi and bryan adams dudes, seriously