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opeth_oasis 12-14-2004 12:44 AM

Steve Wilson helps out with some of the song lyrics and also provides some backing vocals.

Cardboard Headgear 12-14-2004 01:15 AM

Yes Akerfeldt writes pretty much everything.

Mafia_Tom 12-14-2004 08:14 AM

Just thought I'd jump in and add my voice to the praising of Opeth.

Seen them once, got all the CDs and the Live DVD.

\m/

Iron Man 12-14-2004 08:24 PM

[QUOTE=Det_Nosnip]Morningrise, Orchid, etc for me are just too unfocused. Alot of it was just heavy music with acoustic breaks thrown in there just to jolt you and surprise you, but at times it didn't really make sense. With Still Life, BWP, etc, you can trace the path back....you just never see it coming the first time. For their first albums, it was enough to have random acoustic breaks, because it was unique, but then they decided that they had to actually make it WORK. For me, Opeth's early career was a process of heavy experimentation and then applying what was learned through experimentation in the later masterpieces, Still Life and Blackwater Park. Now, they've started to experiment again with Deliverance/****ation...I'm thinking that they're going to have a few more albums that are REALLY different as the band continues to experiment, and then there's going to put out another masterpiece that's going to just blow us all away. Don't get me wrong, I like to listen to the early stuff, there's some really beautiful music in there, but it was too unfocused for me to put it on par to Still Life.[/QUOTE]

I still kinda miss the double guitar lines...

Det_Nosnip 12-14-2004 09:37 PM

[QUOTE=Ripper22]I would agree. But good God Almighty, they have got a truckload of beautiful music throughout Morningrise. The harmonized acoustics in particular blow me away every time.[/QUOTE]

Oh, no doubt. IMO, it's brilliant music, but not organized/structured in as effective a way as Still Life+. It's still Opeth, though.

opeth_oasis 12-14-2004 11:56 PM

Morningrise is pretty much perfect IMO except the growling doesnt sound as good, also in orchid

Grey Incision 12-15-2004 01:42 AM

don't get me wrong when i said i didn't rate morningrise in opeth albums, it's still an awesome album, but in comparison to other opeth albums, it doesn't match up IMO

opeth_oasis 12-15-2004 04:57 AM

as if it doesnt match up, what are you on about mate?

Grey Incision 12-15-2004 08:49 PM

IMO= in my opinion

don't try and change it without justifiable evidence.

I'll tell you why i don't think it compares to opeth's other work. The sections do not flow as cleanly as other albums, it sounds as if acoustic sections were just thrown in there. certain acoustic parts last for ever and are extremely repetitive. The sound production on it is poor ( this i cannot blame opeth for, but it still does not float my boat). Mikael's growls on it are kind of awkward, and annoying, same with Orchids.

remember, this is MY OPINION, you are aloud yours, and i'm not going to have a shot at you for it. The only thing i'm on MATE, is orange juice, and seeing as it hasn't fermented, i am fine and my mind straight. i appreciate your one sentence response though champ.

opeth_oasis 12-17-2004 07:47 PM

[QUOTE]Originally Posted By [B]Grey Incision[/B]
IMO= in my opinion

don't try and change it without justifiable evidence.

I'll tell you why i don't think it compares to opeth's other work. The sections do not flow as cleanly as other albums, it sounds as if acoustic sections were just thrown in there. certain acoustic parts last for ever and are extremely repetitive. The sound production on it is poor ( this i cannot blame opeth for, but it still does not float my boat). Mikael's growls on it are kind of awkward, and annoying, same with Orchids.

remember, this is MY OPINION, you are aloud yours, and i'm not going to have a shot at you for it. The only thing i'm on MATE, is orange juice, and seeing as it hasn't fermented, i am fine and my mind straight. i appreciate your one sentence response though champ.[/QUOTE]

yeah fair enough i respect your opinion and what your saying makes sense, not as much to me but hey its your opinion and i respect it. I must agree though that the growls are not as good as their later works. All in all i dont exactly agree with your statement but i respect your opinion. :thumb:

4130 12-17-2004 09:32 PM

I agree with Grey Incision, the acoustic parts don't fit in as well, and the vocals are worse, and the production quality is pretty bad. Although I would say Morningrise is probably my favourite album after BWP, so don't get me wrong, I love the CD, but with all Opeth's greatness, I have come to expect better than completely awsome albums.

Edit: I'm learning Benighted on guitar, great fingerpicking song!

relliK 12-17-2004 10:50 PM

[QUOTE=opeth_oasis]i never knew this till now but did you know that MAYH is actually a long story, like still life, i found this at sonicdeath.com:
The story tells of a man that died prematurely before being stranded on earth in his spirit form. His attempts to keep his grasp on the physical world are futile — all he can do is watch the world through spring to winter as his lover's devotion to him melts away in front of his very eyes.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, the fact that the last lyric to every song is the title of the next track made me believe it was a story.I love that album.I love how the clean vocals sound "ghost-like".Mikael's vocals on When give me the chills everytime.I think that cd is probably his best vocal performance.Well, the singing anyway.I like the growling on BWP better.

Grey Incision 12-18-2004 05:52 AM

MAYH is my second favourite album, it's bloody amazing, april ethereal is and will always remain my favourite opeth song, i love the clean vocals in the middle

I will endure, hide away
I will outrun the scythe, glaring with failure

i just love that part, and the song itself just sounds so good, mikael can write some amazing stuff.

Grey Incision 12-19-2004 04:05 AM

geez, i found this on the 5th page, come on folks, keep this thread alive

in other words.......

BUMP!

4130 12-19-2004 06:07 AM

Does anyone else think the part in When, when Mikael sings

"And I cried, I knew she had lied,
the obsession had died, it had died"

Sound like a 10 year old poetry class? Although I love that part, sooo good, but the lyrics have always bothered me.

Grey Incision 12-19-2004 06:20 AM

are you kidding? Why do you think this? because he added a rhyming pattern in? it relates completely with the whole song, and if you follow the story, it is the turning poiint in the story.

edit: sorry if this came across as aggresive or anything, but yeah, it fits the song well, i think

4130 12-19-2004 08:48 AM

It does fit in with the song awsome, I love the part. But rhyming cried, lied and died and then died again, is just so simple. I guess it work well, but just, arghhh.. i dunno it bothers me, it's like hearing a grade 1 poem.

Grey Incision 12-19-2004 04:29 PM

yeah, i can see where your coming from, hehehe, it is a little simplistic, but please, don't use the term grade 1 poem when talking about opeth's lyrics, it just cut me, is all :upset:

RouteOne 12-19-2004 04:33 PM

[QUOTE=4130]It does fit in with the song awsome, I love the part. But rhyming cried, lied and died and then died again, is just so simple. I guess it work well, but just, arghhh.. i dunno it bothers me, it's like hearing a grade 1 poem.[/QUOTE]
Meh, every band has at least one line that is garbage.

Ok, what does everybody think Opeth's BEST song is. I mean OVERALL BEST, the lyrics, the drums, bass, guitars, vocals.

???

Grey Incision 12-19-2004 04:39 PM

gee, that's a toughy, there are quite a few that have a good standing...........ummm, i can give you top songs for each instrument

1. guitar- I really like Moonlapse Vertigo
2. Bass-To bid you farewell or blackwater park
3. Drums-ummmm, ITMSWS? Demon Of the fall?

Lateralias 12-19-2004 05:04 PM

[QUOTE=amostbitterseason]Meh, every band has at least one line that is garbage.

Ok, what does everybody think Opeth's BEST song is. I mean OVERALL BEST, the lyrics, the drums, bass, guitars, vocals.

???[/QUOTE]

That is a tough one indeed....
I'd say maybe Bleak... or Blackwater Park, but then again there's the songs on Still Life... and a select few on MAYH.... even some worthy ones on Deliverance... meh, yes that's a hard question.....

RouteOne 12-19-2004 05:07 PM

[QUOTE=Grey Incision]gee, that's a toughy, there are quite a few that have a good standing...........ummm, i can give you top songs for each instrument

1. guitar- I really like Moonlapse Vertigo
2. Bass-To bid you farewell or blackwater park
3. Drums-ummmm, ITMSWS? Demon Of the fall?[/QUOTE]
Personally, I like Blackrose Immortal the best. Morning rise is an amazing album.

Grey Incision 12-19-2004 05:15 PM

blackrose immortal is an awesome song, but i don't think it is the best instrumentally wise.........****, i forgot one, it has to be the best Opeth song instrumentally(well, IMO).........THE TWILIGHT IS MY ROBE.......

amazing song that, really superb stuff, especially the solo, now that's a treat

...................../sounds like richie benaud :upset:

RiceMonster 12-19-2004 06:27 PM

Black Rose Immortal is good but not the best, in my opinion.

opeth_oasis 12-19-2004 07:00 PM

[QUOTE]Originally Posted By [B]amostbitterseason[/B]
Meh, every band has at least one line that is garbage.

Ok, what does everybody think Opeth's BEST song is. I mean OVERALL BEST, the lyrics, the drums, bass, guitars, vocals.

???[/QUOTE]

I'd say
Lyrics-Face Of Melinda or April Ethereal
Guitar-Moonlapse Vertigo or A Fair Judgement
Bass-Advent
Drums-umm not sure maybe Wreath??

overall best song IMO would be a three way tie between To Bid You Farewell, Advent and The Moor

naboo 12-19-2004 07:01 PM

Guitar - Black Rose Immortal
Bass - This one is hard but I think im going to say Nectar or Advent
Drums - Deliverance
Lyrics - The Moor and To Bid You Farewell

Opeth's overall best is Black Rose Immortal. It's absolutley amazing. Forest of October comes pretty close. Yeah I love the Orchid and Morningrise stuff.

4130 12-19-2004 07:25 PM

Deliverance deffinetly has the best drums, the outro is :thumb:

opeth_oasis 12-19-2004 07:27 PM

who do you guys reckon was better, the old or new bass player? I'd have to say the old

Cardboard Headgear 12-19-2004 08:30 PM

DeFarfalla's style wouldn't fit Opeth's sound past the first two albums.

Kreator2112 12-19-2004 08:40 PM

i hate people who say opeth is boring, they arent boring at all. you just need to have an appreciation for the music. the acoustic intros own. i dont know any other band in death that uses acoustic.

advent=my fav


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