Ive got no control and against the grain, I really like against the grain, I heard they went prob and it was ****, this true?

i really like them!

[QUOTE=victimofreality]I'm pretty sure the guy with the neck brace is not Greg.[/QUOTE]
yeah but the guy with the blaze orange hunting hat with earflaps, and the large brimmed flower hat are Greg.

No Control is amazing no doubt. I just think No Control was a bit of a let down. Paid full price for an album 30 minutes in length, where just about every song sounds the same..

No Control, You, I Want to Conquer the World and Henchmen highlight that one for me.

Against the Grain just captures their signature sound to me. It is their defining album, both lyrically and musically.

I love that album for reasons that you've given for disliking it. The length means that its never dull and its constantly so fast and powerful.

You definately picked out the best songs though, they are incredible. Not taking it away from other songs though, there are some other crackers e.g. change of ideas and Big Bang

[QUOTE=RIP Ian Curtis]No-one ever comes down under. Well no punk bands anyway, they all tend to stick to the USA or the UK. Sad times.[/QUOTE]
Wankers, all of them.

No Control is awesome, just about every song is a highlight. The songs do sound a little similar but it's still a great album.

[QUOTE=Drop The Baby]I love that album for reasons that you've given for disliking it. The length means that its never dull and its constantly so fast and powerful.

You definately picked out the best songs though, they are incredible. Not taking it away from other songs though, there are some other crackers e.g. change of ideas and Big Bang[/QUOTE]


Yeah start to finish it's great to be honest. I can listen to it all and not be unhappy.

I still think it should have been an EP and been maybe 7 bucks though.

I reckon Progress is the best song on No Control, I can listen to that over and over. Does anyone agree with me?

i was just listening to that song thinking it was great. I don't agree with you though.

[QUOTE=DBoon's Ghost]Yeah start to finish it's great to be honest. I can listen to it all and not be unhappy.

I still think it should have been an EP and been maybe 7 bucks though.[/QUOTE]

fair comment

[QUOTE=Drop The Baby]I love that album for reasons that you've given for disliking it. The length means that its never dull and its constantly so fast and powerful.

You definately picked out the best songs though, they are incredible. Not taking it away from other songs though, there are some other crackers e.g. change of ideas and Big Bang[/QUOTE]
Man, I love Change Of Ideas.

But yeah, Faith Alone, Walk Away, and Anesthesia; Against The Grain is sooooo good.

I love Anesthesia, what a f'ucking amazing song.

I think that Sorrow and Los Angeles Is Burning are so much better live than they are on record (not that they are bad on record)

[QUOTE=TakeWarning]I reckon Progress is the best song on No Control, I can listen to that over and over. Does anyone agree with me?[/QUOTE]

yeah and billy and henchman, i could listen to those songs all day

i only have The Empire Strikes Back, but ive heard many, many songs... and i have to say, i havent been dissapointed yet... go bad religion

great band, true punk

^^ yeah true punk... they're the base of punk music !

indeed they are, one of the best punk bands i have ever heard for sure

Great band.

I still remember back in the 80s when I got How Could Hell Be Any Worse? on cassette.

It was the first west coast band I allowed myself to listen to.

I love them. I've seen them close to 10 times at least over the years.

This is one of my favourite bands. I finally bought Generator today and im gonna give it a listening to soon.

I was ignoreing Bad Religion for a while, then I started to listen them again and I was liek what was I thinking not listening to them for so long.

[QUOTE=gastery6]I was ignoreing Bad Religion for a while, then I started to listen them again and I was liek what was I thinking not listening to them for so long.[/QUOTE]
Yeah seriously, what are you, retarded or something?

I was for a while.

[QUOTE=dedard9fx]^^ yeah true punk... they're the base of punk music ![/QUOTE]


ummm... What?

Great band
nothing else to say

[QUOTE=vote me]Great band
nothing else to say[/QUOTE]
You could say it again...

I Love The Lyrics From How Can Hell Be Any Worse.

After That They Start To Sell Out For Epitaph Or Whatever They Are Called

they are just doing what pretty much every other punk band are doing right now, which is making money. If they say they are playing just for the music, they are lying through their back teeth in my opinion. Perhaps in the first 10 years of their career they were playing more for the music but now Epitaph is just about money and making bands get big through it. Why are they signing Atmosphere and all these other rap acts.
WHATS GOING ON !!!

they are back on tour again with anti-flag, pennywise, and murphys law, Tickets are really expensive though......I would probably go for Bad Religion and Murphys Law.

[QUOTE=fatwreckpunk]they are just doing what pretty much every other punk band are doing right now, which is making money. If they say they are playing just for the music, they are lying through their back teeth in my opinion. Perhaps in the first 10 years of their career they were playing more for the music but now Epitaph is just about money and making bands get big through it. Why are they signing Atmosphere and all these other rap acts.
WHATS GOING ON !!![/QUOTE]

Atmosphere & Sage Francis are easily two of my favorite Rappers (and I don't like much rap) and I couldn't be happier having them on Epitaph, people are always saying "OMGZZZZ that bands not Pnuk An Teir on EpiTaph!!!!11" some of the best bands on Epitaph aren't punk, take sage francis, the black keys and dave hillyard for example.


Anyway, as for bad religion, I like alot of their stuff. and I think I'm on my own when I say The Empire.... was one of their best records. (Against the Grain was the best though)

Oh yeah if anyone didn't know yet, new album sometime next year. As said by Brett in an interview.

I wonder if they stay the same in the main stream.

[QUOTE=Skrunnch]I wonder if they stay the same in the main stream.[/QUOTE]
They were on atlantic records, and have had a lot of videos and such. So they've kind of already been "in the mainstream". I don't think they're going to get much bigger than they've ever been, seeing as they're old as hell, and most people who listen to "mainstream" music would hate them.

[QUOTE=fatwreckpunk]they are just doing what pretty much every other punk band are doing right now, which is making money. If they say they are playing just for the music, they are lying through their back teeth in my opinion. Perhaps in the first 10 years of their career they were playing more for the music but now Epitaph is just about money and making bands get big through it. Why are they signing Atmosphere and all these other rap acts.
WHATS GOING ON !!![/QUOTE]

Punk=Diversity

Stop being a close minded little ****.

[QUOTE=fatwreckpunk]they are just doing what pretty much every other punk band are doing right now, which is making money. If they say they are playing just for the music, they are lying through their back teeth in my opinion. Perhaps in the first 10 years of their career they were playing more for the music but now Epitaph is just about money and making bands get big through it. Why are they signing Atmosphere and all these other rap acts.
WHATS GOING ON !!![/QUOTE]

It's their record label, if they want to sign rap, they can sign rap, no where does it say they are an exclusively punk record label, they just happen to sign mostly punk bands.

Bad Religion used to be one of my favorite bands. But I got really tired of them. :upset:

I've loved them for years and still do, old and new, its all great. Greg Graffin is probably my favorite singer and lyricist ever.

[QUOTE=DDM]
Anyway, as for bad religion, I like alot of their stuff. and I think I'm on my own when I say The Empire.... was one of their best records.)[/QUOTE]
I'm with you, I think it's an amazing record. My favourite is No Control.
Amazing Band. Amazing live. One song I hate though, is 21st Centruty Digital Boy. My favourite song is either Skyscraper, Modern Man or Shattered Faith.

[QUOTE=Brain Squirmin' Like a Toad]It's their record label, if they want to sign rap, they can sign rap, no where does it say they are an exclusively punk record label, they just happen to sign mostly punk bands.[/QUOTE]
It's Brett's record label.

Other than that, and that BR is on Epitaph, Epitaph has nothing to do with Bad Religion.

Whoever was complaining about Bad Religion because of Epitaph, may I remind you that your name is fat wreck punk. Do the crappy bands on fat wreck mean that NOFX sucks and don't care about music?

Personally I reckon Bad Religion's best albums were made on Epitaph in the early 90s. After they went to Sony they just went downhill a bit. I mean they became more musically diverse but I preferred their earlier stuff.

And their last album was a bit of a letdown as well, the worst since No Substance. Too many filler tracks I reckon.

It had a couple tracks that weren't so great, but the rest was amazing IMO.