[QUOTE=Painful_Cheese][url]www.fourfa.com[/url] pretty much cleared up emo and i'll try out some Circle Takes The Square and see if i like it. BUT i'm seriously going to listen to 'Optimus Prime, 5 DiGiorno Pizzas, and a Bag of Condoms Make One Awkward Morning After' by Dracula Core. I mean comeon, the title is so brilliant...[/QUOTE]

Hahahaha, yes. I came up with the title.

*does a little jig*

[QUOTE=Bartender]Happymeal - The Cure get called post-punk.[/QUOTE]

Ok..I think I'm figuring post-punk out a bit..since punk became known in the 70's(Sex Pistols, etc etc), bands like The Cure and Joy Division(?) in the 80's sound somewhat reminiscent to them, but they created a different sound altogether(using synth and all)? I'm just so confused with so many genres out there.

I just downloaded some Antioch Arrow songs from epitonic, they're interesting.. I like it when the vocals really sing, I don't mind screaming, it just makes for a more interesting listen(like The Fall Of Troy, for example).

What's epitonic?

[QUOTE=Bartender]What's epitonic?[/QUOTE]

I mean [url]www.epitonic.com[/url] , sorry about that. It's a good source of Alt/Indie and even with some emo. Good site to do some research on. Hehe.

Thanks. I've been wanting to hear some Antioch Arrow from somewhere.

[QUOTE=DFelon204409]About the post-whatever argument, post has evolved to denote anything after the main wave of a genre that really expands on it and diversifies it.

In the case of The Cure, they're post-punk because they were in a genre with other bands that relied more heavily on punk.[/QUOTE]

yeah thats what i was thinking, as far as the "post" prefix was concerned.

if anyone wants to hear the Cure's post punk finest, listen to the song Boy's Don't Cry. it is just a 4 chord progression and is more fast paced, then most of their later works. actually their whole first album "Three Imaginary Boys" is like that, since they arrived on the music scene shortly after the initial explosion of UK punk

Bump :)

[QUOTE=DFelon204409][b]Emo[/b]
Hot Cross
Saetia
Grade
A Day in Black and White
I Hate Myself
Indian Summer
Trophy Scars
Funeral Diner
Coffin
Song of Zarathustra
Moss Icon
Planes Mistaken for Stars
Native Nod
Spirit of Versailles
Amanda Woodward
Rites of Spring
Hoover
Still Life

[b]Screamo[/b]
Love Like...Electrocution
Angel Hair
Antioch Arrow
Usurp Synapse
pageninteynine
Heroin
Clikitat Ikatowi
City of Caterpillar
Circle Takes the Square
Orchid
Neil Perry
Kaospilot
The Kite-Flying Society
The Khayembii Communique
The Vidablue
Portrait
combatwoundedveteran
lickgoldensky
Cowboys Became Folk Heroes
Joshua Fit for Battle
Jerome's Dream
You and I
Love Lost But Not Forgotten
The Great Redneck Hope
Textbook Traitors
As the Sun Sets
After School Knife Fight

[b]Dance/Indie/Grind that is rooted in emo but is eclectic[/b]
The Blood Brothers
An Albatross
The Red Light Sting
Fear Before the March of Flames

[right][i]contributors:[/i]
DFelon204409
BuddyBigsby
iHATEgc[/right][/QUOTE]

I can't believe you forgot Envy! Japenese screamo, mmmmmm. And isn't The Number Twelve Looks Like You screamo?

/me adds Navio Forge to that list

I've got to find that Trophy Scars cd somewhere..argh. haha

[QUOTE=cbmartinez24]I can't believe you forgot Envy! Japenese screamo, mmmmmm. And isn't The Number Twelve Looks Like You screamo?[/QUOTE]

Oh yes, Envy!

I wouldn't say Number Twelve are screamo.

[QUOTE=BuddyBigsby]I wouldn't say Number Twelve are screamo.[/QUOTE]

What then? In that third category, influenced by screamo?

Grind, if anything.

I'm still not sure if they fit in this category, but I just downloaded The Fall Of Troy's self titled, and it's freakin' amazing. I seriously recommend The Fall Of Troy to you guys.

Shai Hulud...Nuff Said
The Saddest Day ([url]www.purevolume.com/thesaddestday[/url]) Theyre immense
Glassjaw

Erm, Brand New is quite emo im sure

Nope, shut up bumskin.

The Saddest Day didn't work out for me.. And they really don't belong in here.

*promotes The Fall Of Troy-What Sound Does A Mastodon Make*

Is this also a place for emo-core...or such music?


if so, I have some pretty kick booty bands to post up in hur.

[QUOTE=bohn]Is this also a place for emo-core...or such music?


if so, I have some pretty kick booty bands to post up in hur.[/QUOTE]Emo is just a shortened term for Emocore. The genre didn't start as emo, but as emocore (because of the hardcore scene breaking out in DC). So I see the two as the same thing.

I-personally-consider emo to be bands like Rufio and emo-core to be bands such as Avenged Sevenfold

[QUOTE=bohn]I-personally-consider emo to be bands like Rufio and emo-core to be bands such as Avenged Sevenfold[/QUOTE]This is the part where I tell you to read the thread. READ!

I was just saying that is how I do it, and people that i know. Not everyone has to classify their music that same way.

[QUOTE=bohn]I was just saying that is how I do it, and people that i know. Not everyone has to classify their music that same way.[/QUOTE]Hmm...maybe you should also stop classifying music. Genres don't bend and change like that because you think the lyrics are emotional. No, there is history behind genres that you can't change. Rufio are power pop and Avenged Sevenfold are metal...esque.

I'm digging The Great Redneck Hope hardcore. Their song titles are hilarious.

"A Rhetorical Question: What Do Christian Kids Talk About? (Ex: "God Is Awesome" "Totally!")"
"Pssst! Hey, the lord is awesome. Pass it on."
"Girl Are You Pregnant? It's Not My Fault! You Seduced Me!"

[QUOTE=cbmartinez24]I'm digging The Great Redneck Hope hardcore. Their song titles are hilarious.

"A Rhetorical Question: What Do Christian Kids Talk About? (Ex: "God Is Awesome" "Totally!")"
"Pssst! Hey, the lord is awesome. Pass it on."
"Girl Are You Pregnant? It's Not My Fault! You Seduced Me!"[/QUOTE]Ah yes, who cannot love the Great Redneck Hope.

How about "Girl are down with bacteria, and if so will you come inside our tour van" I most likely ruined that one. Whatevs. I think I am gonna give them a listen right now actually.

blood brothers, snow patrol, army of freashmen, section 8, and tiger army

what is senses fail classified under?

Pop Rock

[QUOTE=Ramones Rock097]blood brothers, snow patrol, army of freashmen, section 8, and tiger army[/QUOTE]

Is that the same Snow Patrol that are having success with singles here in England?

Also, I thought Tiger Army were rockabilly or psychobilly or something.

They are, but he's an idiot, you see.

Good point, well made.

bumped because it's sinking

Well I don't know much about the bands which most of you guys call emo, but you don't need to jump down someone's throat when they have a different opinion of what to class something as. What you call 'emo', I just call 'hardcore'. What you call 'post emo pop-punk' or whatever, I class that as 'emo'. I also have to say there are far more people in the world which classify bands like Taking Back Sunday as emo than people who classify the bands you mentioned as emo (as genres do evolve, change and whatever). It also depends on your previous musical background and taste as to what you call things.

But anyways my point was not everyone has to classify everything the same, that would suck. Nothing is set in stone :) (don't bother 'flaming' me if you don't like what I said, it's just an opinion).

Just a thought - why don't one of the big emo people here (the one who hates GC, Bigsby, DFelon even, if he's back long enough), do a Featured Genre article on emo/screamo for this forum, to try and clear up the constant misunderstandings?

Just a thought.

[QUOTE=Bartender]Just a thought - why don't one of the big emo people here (the one who hates GC, Bigsby, DFelon even, if he's back long enough), do a Featured Genre article on emo/screamo for this forum, to try and clear up the constant misunderstandings?

Just a thought.[/QUOTE]

But the word means different things to different people. Alot would disagree with the article.

[QUOTE=NoMoreHate]But the word means different things to different people. Alot would disagree with the article.[/QUOTE]

Yes, but unfortunately, genres aren't an opinion or an interpretation. I can go around all day saying John Coltrane is my favorite black metal frontman. Doesn't make it so.

What me, GC, and DFelon are saying is emo... really is emo. It came from bands like Rites of Spring, Moss Icon, etc. who were the first bands to receive the name "emo" which at the time was short for emotional hardcore. If you trace the history of the genre, you'll find the bands we listed are what emo has actually become, not bands like Taking Back Sunday. While the actual bands that influenced Taking back Sunday, Brand New, etc. were actually influenced by emo, they weren't entirely emo themselves. They were more rock than anything. I'm speaking of bands like Sunny Day Real Estate and Quicksand. This is what's referred to as Post-Emo Indie Rock, but I usually just refer to it as post-emo so as not to have to use that incredibly long genre name. Genres, once again, are not an opinion but are based around fact. Facts that we can present and facts that we can back up, unlike any single person naming off poppy post-emo bands in this thread.

Look at this website: [url]www.fourfa.com[/url]

SDRE is post-emo indie rock? Or taking back sunday is post-emo indie rock?

Isn't majority rule screamo?

you take this way to seriously. Its music, susposed to be fun....yeah..

[QUOTE=BuddyBigsby]Look at this website: [url]www.fourfa.com[/url][/QUOTE]

Yeh I've checked out that site before and I get the whole 'real emo' thing (by the way thanks for not biting my head off like I expected) but, speaking objectively, the whole pop-punk kind of emo is what [b]most[/b] people think about when they hear the word. It might be incorrect but eventually it's probably just going to be known as 'emo'. When I think 'emo', I think Funeral For A Friend, Finch, TBS. When I think 'Screamo' I think Alexisonfire, Underoath. I'm just musically illiterate but so is most of the world. Ah well it's just an opinion.

[QUOTE=NoMoreHate]Yeh I've checked out that site before and I get the whole 'real emo' thing (by the way thanks for not biting my head off like I expected) but, speaking objectively, the whole pop-punk kind of emo is what [b]most[/b] people think about when they hear the word. It might be incorrect but eventually it's probably just going to be known as 'emo'. When I think 'emo', I think Funeral For A Friend, Finch, TBS. When I think 'Screamo' I think Alexisonfire, Underoath. I'm just musically illiterate but so is most of the world. Ah well it's just an opinion.[/QUOTE]

And those people are wrong.

DFelon put it best when he said something to this effect:

It's like Michael Bolton in Office Space when he refuses to change his name because "I'm not the one that's wrong, he is. He sucks, not me"