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korn-head 08-02-2004 12:54 PM

The remix songs are not really much different from the original songs. The songs are still class and id say spit it out would be the best. Wat do use think the best live slipknot song is? I would say three nil cse it fukin rules. :cool:

jaymz_is_god 08-02-2004 02:24 PM

The best live Slipknot song has to be Surfacing or The Heretic Anthem. All their songs are great live, but those two stand out for me.

slipknot-maggot 08-02-2004 02:40 PM

best slipknot live song......................disasterpiece, pulse of the maggots, surfacing. i think all of them are really good live. these are jus my phase now. they will prob be different 2moz.

MbMDrumMachine 08-02-2004 02:41 PM

I don't know if this has been talked about or whatever, but I'm stating what I think...

Slipknot are the band I hate the most out of all bands. I have many good reasons.

Lack of Talent/Originality -

I don't think Slipknot are talented at all. I've heard people say "ooo, Mick really shreds". Go listen to some Jason Becker or something, and then try to tell me Mick can shred. I've looked at numerous Slipknot tabs and they all digust me. So many people also so Joey is really good at drums. I'm a drummer, and I hear nothing sepcial from him. In fact I don't even think he's that great or original with his drumming. Also, there's the lyrics and song meanings. Most of Slipknot's songs are about depression and suicide, typical nu-metal style. It makes me sick

The Whole 9 Member Thing -

This actually makes me laugh. I find it really funny how Slipknot can have 9 members and play as poorly as they do. I can think of countless bands that sound better than slipknot and play with 5, 4 or even 3 members. I don't get why they need two percussionists, they don't add anything to the music. I saw Duality live on Leno and one of them hit a garbage can. Now that's talent. The whole sampler and DJ thing is stupid too. Jordan Rudess from Dream Theater does all of their samples and plays the keyboard like a god at the same time. Slipknot could have two members and be just about as good. I make better music by myself than Slipknot does with 9 people.


Bad Influence -

Slipknot is typical whiny nu-metal. They are making kids more "depressed" then they already were by making them think life is so hard. I see tons of Slipknot fans that are all dressed in black with chains and spikes and make up. Goth kids make me angry. Suck it up and get a life. Listen to some real metal.

Gimmick -

The MASKS. Wow, you don't want to be recognized in public, big deal. Pay the price for being famous. Maybe if they get rid of those silly costumes they can make some good music while they are at it.

Anyway, I don't want to go on much longer, the fact is Slipknot is bad for you.

Black-Bass 08-02-2004 02:50 PM

Everything Ends
Wait and Bleed
Duality
Spit it Out
I am Hated
Purity
Snap
Heretic Athem
People=Sh*t
Before I Forget
Left Behind
Liberate
(sic)
The Shape
Vermilion
Surfacing
My Plague
Pulse of the Maggots
Eyeless
The Blister Exist

KoRnered 08-02-2004 03:09 PM

[QUOTE=MbMDrumMachine]I don't know if this has been talked about or whatever, but I'm stating what I think...

Slipknot are the band I hate the most out of all bands. I have many good reasons.

Lack of Talent/Originality -

I don't think Slipknot are talented at all. I've heard people say "ooo, Mick really shreds". Go listen to some Jason Becker or something, and then try to tell me Mick can shred. I've looked at numerous Slipknot tabs and they all digust me. So many people also so Joey is really good at drums. I'm a drummer, and I hear nothing sepcial from him. In fact I don't even think he's that great or original with his drumming. Also, there's the lyrics and song meanings. Most of Slipknot's songs are about depression and suicide, typical nu-metal style. It makes me sick

The Whole 9 Member Thing -

This actually makes me laugh. I find it really funny how Slipknot can have 9 members and play as poorly as they do. I can think of countless bands that sound better than slipknot and play with 5, 4 or even 3 members. I don't get why they need two percussionists, they don't add anything to the music. I saw Duality live on Leno and one of them hit a garbage can. Now that's talent. The whole sampler and DJ thing is stupid too. Jordan Rudess from Dream Theater does all of their samples and plays the keyboard like a god at the same time. Slipknot could have two members and be just about as good. I make better music by myself than Slipknot does with 9 people.


Bad Influence -

Slipknot is typical whiny nu-metal. They are making kids more "depressed" then they already were by making them think life is so hard. I see tons of Slipknot fans that are all dressed in black with chains and spikes and make up. Goth kids make me angry. Suck it up and get a life. Listen to some real metal.

Gimmick -

The MASKS. Wow, you don't want to be recognized in public, big deal. Pay the price for being famous. Maybe if they get rid of those silly costumes they can make some good music while they are at it.

Anyway, I don't want to go on much longer, the fact is Slipknot is bad for you.[/QUOTE]

hmmm, thanx for sharing your biased opinion :thumb:
i love some of their songs, hate some others,....but i dont see how you can call Joey anything less than awesome, youve obviously never heard one of slipknots songs or you'd know how good he is. I wont defend slipknot in everything, i guess im not a ItrueI magot, but id like to hear you play the drums better :naughty:

Hey Mr. Light Man 08-02-2004 03:12 PM

[QUOTE=MbMDrumMachine]I don't know if this has been talked about or whatever, but I'm stating what I think...

Slipknot are the band I hate the most out of all bands. I have many good reasons.

Lack of Talent/Originality -

I don't think Slipknot are talented at all. I've heard people say "ooo, Mick really shreds". Go listen to some Jason Becker or something, and then try to tell me Mick can shred. I've looked at numerous Slipknot tabs and they all digust me. So many people also so Joey is really good at drums. I'm a drummer, and I hear nothing sepcial from him. In fact I don't even think he's that great or original with his drumming. Also, there's the lyrics and song meanings. Most of Slipknot's songs are about depression and suicide, typical nu-metal style. It makes me sick

The Whole 9 Member Thing -

This actually makes me laugh. I find it really funny how Slipknot can have 9 members and play as poorly as they do. I can think of countless bands that sound better than slipknot and play with 5, 4 or even 3 members. I don't get why they need two percussionists, they don't add anything to the music. I saw Duality live on Leno and one of them hit a garbage can. Now that's talent. The whole sampler and DJ thing is stupid too. Jordan Rudess from Dream Theater does all of their samples and plays the keyboard like a god at the same time. Slipknot could have two members and be just about as good. I make better music by myself than Slipknot does with 9 people.


Bad Influence -

Slipknot is typical whiny nu-metal. They are making kids more "depressed" then they already were by making them think life is so hard. I see tons of Slipknot fans that are all dressed in black with chains and spikes and make up. Goth kids make me angry. Suck it up and get a life. Listen to some real metal.

Gimmick -

The MASKS. Wow, you don't want to be recognized in public, big deal. Pay the price for being famous. Maybe if they get rid of those silly costumes they can make some good music while they are at it.

Anyway, I don't want to go on much longer, the fact is Slipknot is bad for you.[/QUOTE]

I totally agree. Any band with more than 1 percussionist is BOUND to suck.

korn-head 08-02-2004 03:22 PM

Well Slipknot sure as hell dont suck, so i guess you wrong on that one. Joey is fukin awesome one the drums and i challenge those who disagree to try and learn disasterpiece. Slipknot fukin rule period.

Kingofdudes 08-02-2004 03:29 PM

[QUOTE=korn-head]Well Slipknot sure as hell dont suck, so i guess you wrong on that one. Joey is fukin awesome one the drums and i challenge those who disagree to try and learn disasterpiece. Slipknot fukin rule period.[/QUOTE]

Well i dont see you puting up much of an argument about them not "sucking". Drum Machine wrote something 10 times as long as your post, and he has plenty of reasons why he thinks they suck.

korn-head 08-02-2004 03:35 PM

[QUOTE=KingofDudes]Well i dont see you puting up much of an argument about them not "sucking". Drum Machine wrote something 10 times as long as your post, and he has plenty of reasons why he thinks they suck.[/QUOTE]

I didnt need to put an arguement down when i laid a challenge. Thats drum machines opinion as well.

feedthegods666 08-02-2004 04:03 PM

to drummachine

honestly, anyone who says Mick is a good guitarist is a complete idiot. i can play pretty much every slipknot song, except for Dont get close and Eeyore. Mick cant play guitar for sh1t. they arent original or anything. i realize this, theyre still my fave band tho

theclash91 08-02-2004 04:08 PM

[QUOTE=Girl-Playing-Bass]Yah and so are your writing skills. :wave:[/QUOTE]
:lol:

kveldulf 08-02-2004 04:12 PM

I think it's great with a band that has a different constellation. Bands with two guitarists, a bassplayer and a drummer, maybe a keyboard player if they want to sound more melodic whilst playing their guitar-based rock music focusing on our emotions lyrically and musically... there are plenty of those. And I am aware that one mainly hear guitars and drums on their newest...

And about that mask-thing: guess everyone has to let their label deal with their excuse of an image if they hope to sell some records. It's a business dealing with lots of money, so everyone capabl of getting attention (positive as well as negative) may have a bigger chance to sell records.

Tears of Rage 08-02-2004 04:14 PM

[QUOTE=alcoholocaust]^I agree with one thing. Be yourself, don't accept stupid labels (maggots... ugh). But I dissagree with you about Iowa, I liked it better than anything else they put out.

P.S.: Anders quit, so did that really good guitarist.[/QUOTE] The guitarist you speak of, I believe you mean Josh...

Black Mage Carcass 08-02-2004 04:22 PM

[QUOTE=feedthegods666]honestly, anyone who says Mick is a good guitarist is a complete idiot. i can play pretty much every slipknot song, except for Dont get close and Eeyore. Mick cant play guitar for sh1t.[/QUOTE]

If you're in the UK, pick up the new Total Guitar and then say he's a bad guitarist. If you're not in the UK, listen to Welcome and Pulse Of The Maggots and then say he's a bad guitarist.

READ - Mick is a f[COLOR=White]ucking[/COLOR] brilliant guitarist. As would most people be if they had been playing as long as he has.

I love Slipknot. They rekindled my love for heavy bands, and brought out what is currently my favourite album of the year so far.

feedthegods666 08-02-2004 04:43 PM

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Mick really isnt that good.
TRUE, he did greatly improve on the new album, but still...its not that good, or "brilliant" theyre SICK fvcking riffs, but theyre EASY fvcking riffs. ive been playin guitar for like 5 months, and i can play everything Mick can.
SlipKNot fvcking kicks @ss! but 'technically' they arent very good

feedthegods666 08-02-2004 08:11 PM

not much, but during live shows he does a lot of stage diving and stuff, same with chris and sid

BlindWriting 08-02-2004 08:17 PM

Chris and Sid always beat the crap out of each other on stage. The latter is one crazy f*ck, even lighting himself on fire.
Even though the guitarists' riffs aren't hard for an intermediate guitarist, the solos on Vol. 3 do kick some serious ***. And people complaining about a band having nine members just don't realize the dynamic that they put in the music together.
And then there's Joey. That's reason enough.

mothland 08-02-2004 08:37 PM

Seems like everyone forgot Gently, off MateFeedKillRepeat. Excellent song and very different from their current stuff.

Bass+Fingers+Amp=Groove 08-02-2004 08:41 PM

[QUOTE=MbMDrumMachine]I don't know if this has been talked about or whatever, but I'm stating what I think...

Slipknot are the band I hate the most out of all bands. I have many good reasons.

Lack of Talent/Originality -

I don't think Slipknot are talented at all. I've heard people say "ooo, Mick really shreds". Go listen to some Jason Becker or something, and then try to tell me Mick can shred. I've looked at numerous Slipknot tabs and they all digust me. So many people also so Joey is really good at drums. I'm a drummer, and I hear nothing sepcial from him. In fact I don't even think he's that great or original with his drumming. Also, there's the lyrics and song meanings. Most of Slipknot's songs are about depression and suicide, typical nu-metal style. It makes me sick

The Whole 9 Member Thing -

This actually makes me laugh. I find it really funny how Slipknot can have 9 members and play as poorly as they do. I can think of countless bands that sound better than slipknot and play with 5, 4 or even 3 members. I don't get why they need two percussionists, they don't add anything to the music. I saw Duality live on Leno and one of them hit a garbage can. Now that's talent. The whole sampler and DJ thing is stupid too. Jordan Rudess from Dream Theater does all of their samples and plays the keyboard like a god at the same time. Slipknot could have two members and be just about as good. I make better music by myself than Slipknot does with 9 people.


Bad Influence -

Slipknot is typical whiny nu-metal. They are making kids more "depressed" then they already were by making them think life is so hard. I see tons of Slipknot fans that are all dressed in black with chains and spikes and make up. Goth kids make me angry. Suck it up and get a life. Listen to some real metal.

Gimmick -

The MASKS. Wow, you don't want to be recognized in public, big deal. Pay the price for being famous. Maybe if they get rid of those silly costumes they can make some good music while they are at it.

Anyway, I don't want to go on much longer, the fact is Slipknot is bad for you.[/QUOTE]

quoted for supreme trueth, any band whos fan base is composed of angst depressed 15 year old boys and highschool goths doesnt deserve any respect.

alcoholocaust 08-02-2004 08:59 PM

[QUOTE=Tears of Rage]The guitarist you speak of, I believe you mean Josh...[/QUOTE]

Yes that was him, his guitar solos owned anything Mick or Jim could play.

alcoholocaust 08-02-2004 09:01 PM

[QUOTE=Bass+Fingers+Amp=Groove]quoted for supreme trueth, any band whos fan base is composed of angst depressed 15 year old boys and highschool goths doesnt deserve any respect.[/QUOTE]

People who can't use the shift key or spell right don't deserve any repsect.

Everything_and_Nothing_3:15 08-02-2004 09:01 PM

Iowa is an awesome song.

hurley_j182 08-02-2004 09:09 PM

Slipknot Rules All. Especially There New Stuff

hurley_j182 08-02-2004 09:10 PM

[QUOTE=Everything_and_Nothing_3:15]Iowa is an awesome song.[/QUOTE]iowa is a cd smartguy :wave:

BlindWriting 08-02-2004 09:12 PM

Wrong. Iowa is the fifteen-minute title track off that album. The last song.

alcoholocaust 08-02-2004 09:12 PM

[QUOTE=hurley_j182]iowa is a cd smartguy :wave:[/QUOTE]

He meant the title track.

hurley_j182 08-02-2004 09:24 PM

Iowa was good

hurley_j182 08-02-2004 09:28 PM

yeahh!! rock onm slipknot

Jester.Race 08-02-2004 09:58 PM

[QUOTE]Slipknot r jus a fukin class band cud u not have made it more than 20!

1.Heretic Anthem
2.Three Nil
3.Eyeless
4.Liberate
5.Sic
6.Vermillion
7.The blister exists
8.Disasterpiece
9.No life
10.Diluted
11.Spit it out
12.Purity
13.Surfacing
14.Me inside
15.Left behind
16.Metabollic
17.Welcome
18.Pulse of the maggots
19.Everything ends
20.Vermillion PT.2[/QUOTE]

What a sad state of affairs life has come when a human being would utter such words :upset:

superpeer 08-03-2004 09:10 AM

Da bump, yo

MbMDrumMachine 08-03-2004 11:58 AM

[QUOTE=KoRnered]hmmm, thanx for sharing your biased opinion :thumb:
i love some of their songs, hate some others,....but i dont see how you can call Joey anything less than awesome, youve obviously never heard one of slipknots songs or you'd know how good he is. I wont defend slipknot in everything, i guess im not a ItrueI magot, but id like to hear you play the drums better :naughty:[/QUOTE]

I've heard many Slipknot songs. Joey hasn't impressed me, I'm sorry. All of you seem to love him, but I don't see it. He's good, yeah, and he works with the band, but he's nothing to write home about. Plus I HATE his drum sound. Slipknot's production in genreal is really bad sounding. Maybe they'd be a better band if they lost 4 or 5 members, tuned their guitars up a bit, and starting writing about some different things. (KoRnered? :lol: )



[QUOTE=Black Mage Carcass]If you're in the UK, pick up the new Total Guitar and then say he's a bad guitarist. If you're not in the UK, listen to Welcome and Pulse Of The Maggots and then say he's a bad guitarist.

READ - Mick is a f[COLOR=White]ucking[/COLOR] brilliant guitarist. As would most people be if they had been playing as long as he has.[/QUOTE]

I laughed the first time I heard Pulse of the Maggots. The solo is so random and unmelodic, and just all around bad.

Hardest_Rocker 08-03-2004 12:41 PM

[QUOTE=MbMDrumMachine]I don't know if this has been talked about or whatever, but I'm stating what I think...

Slipknot are the band I hate the most out of all bands. I have many good reasons.

Lack of Talent/Originality -

I don't think Slipknot are talented at all. I've heard people say "ooo, Mick really shreds". Go listen to some Jason Becker or something, and then try to tell me Mick can shred. I've looked at numerous Slipknot tabs and they all digust me. So many people also so Joey is really good at drums. I'm a drummer, and I hear nothing sepcial from him. In fact I don't even think he's that great or original with his drumming. Also, there's the lyrics and song meanings. Most of Slipknot's songs are about depression and suicide, typical nu-metal style. It makes me sick

The Whole 9 Member Thing -

This actually makes me laugh. I find it really funny how Slipknot can have 9 members and play as poorly as they do. I can think of countless bands that sound better than slipknot and play with 5, 4 or even 3 members. I don't get why they need two percussionists, they don't add anything to the music. I saw Duality live on Leno and one of them hit a garbage can. Now that's talent. The whole sampler and DJ thing is stupid too. Jordan Rudess from Dream Theater does all of their samples and plays the keyboard like a god at the same time. Slipknot could have two members and be just about as good. I make better music by myself than Slipknot does with 9 people.


Bad Influence -

Slipknot is typical whiny nu-metal. They are making kids more "depressed" then they already were by making them think life is so hard. I see tons of Slipknot fans that are all dressed in black with chains and spikes and make up. Goth kids make me angry. Suck it up and get a life. Listen to some real metal.

Gimmick -

The MASKS. Wow, you don't want to be recognized in public, big deal. Pay the price for being famous. Maybe if they get rid of those silly costumes they can make some good music while they are at it.

Anyway, I don't want to go on much longer, the fact is Slipknot is bad for you.[/QUOTE]

I could'nt hve said it better. I mean just look at there tabs. There's like three notes in them and they do the whole drop C crap. Two words Slipknot, STANDARD TUNING. They hide there hideous faces so when people relize how much they suck, they may be able to walk around in public. A band needs a Lead Guitarist, a Rhythem Guitarist, a drummer, and a bassist. And maybe like 2 more members for some different instruments. But 9? What a joke. Screaming into a mic isnt talent, the singers probably as good as anyone at singing so he roars into the mic. The lyrics are a joke too. "Slit your throat and F*ck the wound" You gotta be kidding. A drunk sixth grader on crack with mental issues could write more clever lyrics. Either they need to give there band a LOT of work, or they can have their little goth fans for awhile 'till the get jobs and lives and relize that music is more than just loud guitars and screaming. Heavy metal has those, yes, but good heavy metal also needs good songwriting and technical talent or something close to it. The drummer may be good, I'm not the best at knowing a good drummer cause I listen to guitar and singing mainly, but I know a talented band when I hear one and Slipknot fall short.

jmundy 08-03-2004 12:55 PM

i think that slipknot is starting to be more mainstream and that sucks.

Kingofdudes 08-03-2004 12:56 PM

[QUOTE=jmundy]i think that slipknot is starting to be more mainstream and that sucks.[/QUOTE]

:confused: I thought they have always been mainstream.

jmundy 08-03-2004 12:57 PM

[QUOTE=KingofDudes]:confused: I thought they have always been mainstream.[/QUOTE]

the old stuff wasnt to bad really but they are jumping on the band wagon more recently than ever before

Iceman-rocker 08-03-2004 01:03 PM

i dont really listen to slipknot. ive heard a few of their songs. but i dont really like them a lot. i respect their talent, but i just dont like something about them.

jmundy 08-03-2004 01:04 PM

[QUOTE=Iceman-rocker]i dont really listen to slipknot. ive heard a few of their songs. but i dont really like them a lot. i respect their talent, but i just dont like something about them.[/QUOTE]
i think that mick thompson the guitar player has tons of talent
:thumb:

feedthegods666 08-03-2004 02:43 PM

[QUOTE=Jester.Race]What a sad state of affairs life has come when a human being would utter such words :upset:[/QUOTE]

and your avatar says what...? Hilary Duff is better than SlipKnot? :lol:

Kingofdudes 08-03-2004 02:45 PM

[QUOTE=feedthegods666]and your avatar says what...? Hilary Duff is better than SlipKnot? :lol:[/QUOTE]

its says he would hit that, way to take it out of context


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