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theabstract 06-18-2004 02:50 PM

you could record them yourself, or you can buy them, or I'm pretty sure if you type it in kazaa you'de probebly find some

Stuff 06-19-2004 10:46 PM

[QUOTE=theabstract]yes, yes, yes fruity loops, just get some good samples you idiot, if it sounds techno, then your using techno samples[/QUOTE]
fruityloops is great..anyway im also an engineer in the making and i only have one thing to say about the monitor thing..and that is just make sure it sounds good through your monitors, your headphones and a little radio and you car radio...just check it on more than one place because it might sound awesome on one..but like you said it can sound crap on others..other wise everything else sounds awesome :thumb:

sublimeisnice 06-19-2004 11:05 PM

How well does the MR-8 work for home recording? me and my friend have a few songs and we'd like to make a demo, with me on drums and him playing bass and guitar, so we were gonna buy that to record plus several mikes, most likely the one you suggested for snares , the one you suggested for the bass drum, and then one or two for cymbals. We were thinking of micing up the drums and recording them first. Then plug the guitar directly into it and record that. and do the same with the bass. that way i can drum along with him while he records...does this sound reasonable? Also do those things(the MR8) require special tapes to record?

Chimp_fleshwound 06-20-2004 09:00 AM

the MR-8 records onto compact flash, and apparently the one supplied with it cant hold much data onit.

Is the Digidesign M-Box, an 8 track mixer and a few mics good enough to record good quality stuff?

Vitriolic Rage 06-20-2004 10:30 AM

What sort of mic should I get for mic-ing my amp? I have a crappy Goodmans Uni-Directional ACC 2011, but you have to have the amp as high as hell to pick anything up. Recommend me a good mic that could also be used for vocals. Not one that's too expensive either.

Stuff 06-20-2004 05:36 PM

shure sm-57
the classic..theabstract mentionted it on here..the model that has a built in pop-filter is the sm58 but the 57 works fine

theabstract 06-20-2004 06:00 PM

the sm-58 is actually a completely different mic to the 57.

RushHourSoul 06-24-2004 04:47 PM

Can someone explain what compression does?

theabstract 06-25-2004 06:32 PM

I lied everyone. I'm only 15. I'm not really a producer, well I do record bands, but it's not my main priority. sorry for deciving you but i wanted u to take me seriously.

PS I did still write this whole thing, and the stuff in it is all correct.

LeeM 06-26-2004 08:32 PM

Good you came clean dude, but lieing isnt the way to get respect. anyway.

whats your opinion on Isolation Bozs, im thinking of making one... should i?

theabstract 06-27-2004 12:35 AM

yeah make the Isolation Box. Making anything is great practice. I've made a distortion pedal and I was pretty stoked and for only $10 ya laughin!

RushHourSoul 06-27-2004 08:03 AM

Can someone answer my question pweeeez?

LeeM 06-27-2004 12:25 PM

[QUOTE=theabstract]yeah make the Isolation Box. Making anything is great practice. I've made a distortion pedal and I was pretty stoked and for only $10 ya laughin![/QUOTE]
yeah ive made Effect pedals aswell.

but i dont know if i should bother making an isolation box, will it help make my sound better or just louder.

theabstract 06-27-2004 03:59 PM

leem that depends on what gear you have now, write a list and I'll decide weather it will make your sound any better.

LeeM 06-28-2004 03:42 AM

Marshall Avt50
Epiphone Les paul

Metallicadrummer 06-28-2004 05:05 AM

Hey theabstract...i've searched kazaa for fruityloops, acidpro and leafdrums, and all three cam up with no result...do you think you could tell me exactly what to search for to find these programs?
thanks

theabstract 06-28-2004 05:14 AM

leem you probebly dont need the iso box, do u mic that setup?

Metallicadrummer 06-28-2004 05:24 AM

okay, n.m. found a trial version, that'll do...where can i download some samples to use then?

shadedlife 06-28-2004 09:52 AM

hey mikah - i liked that song.

theabstract 06-28-2004 03:22 PM

are there any samples on kazza?

LeeM 06-28-2004 03:28 PM

[QUOTE=theabstract]leem you probebly dont need the iso box, do u mic that setup?[/QUOTE]
what will the isol box add to my sound?

RushHourSoul 06-28-2004 03:36 PM

go on google then type in drum samples. I got plenty of there. OR try and get some of a few drum make's websites.

theabstract 06-28-2004 11:50 PM

leem, an iso box would only benifit u if
1.your amp is tube or
2. your recording at the same time as other people
3. your neibours are dickheads.

Basically the iso box will make your sound cleaner and less muddy in the cass of recording with other people. It will allow u to crank your amp loud, which is neccicary for tube amps to get a good tone.

fleas_fingers 06-29-2004 12:00 AM

to theabstract:

bull****!! you are NOT 15!! as if you are! u know so much... by the way, i'm the one who emailed you for some time about being a music producer......how can u know that much? nah, i don't believe you...

theabstract 06-29-2004 12:31 AM

yeah I am 15 check out my bands web site for photo's [url]www.the-abstract.cjb.net[/url]
I just know alot because I do it alot and research alot. I did work experience in a studio. sorry about lying man, but I am 15. I live in coffs Harbour Australia. I'm in a band with two guys called daniel and james. I know about becoming a producer because thats what I'm planning. sorry man.

Metallicadrummer 06-29-2004 08:06 AM

hey theabstract...i was wondering if you could give me some advice on soundproofing...

my band are turning the guitarists garage into a practice room, the garage is made of breeze blocks, and has one window and a huge metal door (like most garages) we were planning to buy some fuk-heavy curtains, and hang them from teh ceiling in front of all teh walls, and the door, except the door curtains would have to be on a rail, so we could slide them to and fro...should this be enough to mute three 50W amps (two gutiar, one bass) one drumkit and the PA system (probably around 50W)

if this would not be enough, what could we do to 'proof teh garage even more?

theabstract 06-29-2004 03:51 PM

well, this is what I did in our jamming room. On the inside of the garage we did a whole extra layer of walls on the inside and packed the space in between with insulation and foam. But thats fairly permanent and costly (around $100 or so). So another way is. Get as much foam and crap as u can find and pack it in the window. Then put a piece of ply over the top and screw it to the window frame. This is important coz lotsa sound will get out here. next, fill the gap at the top of the metal door with blanket and foam and whateva u can find. Then hang curtains every where about 5 inches from the walls. This will creat an air gap, slowing and speeding up the travel of the sound waves, therefore defusing it faster because of changing mediums. Ok hope that helps. Email me if not [email]fenderman3@hotmail.com[/email] have fun jammin :)

fleas_fingers 06-29-2004 07:47 PM

ok man, i believe you....

gotta hand it to you....really seemed like you were in ur late 20s or something...you've done your research!! seems like ur a pretty smart guy...only 15. sh*t, you're younger than me. :) yeh, i reckon you could become a music producer....i mean, with the knowledge you have. thanks for helping .

theabstract 06-29-2004 10:03 PM

yeah i'm good at bull****ing lol. There's a picture of my on my avatar now so i'll never be able to again. sorry again fleas finger. Btw I love RHCP if u didn't know.

Liquid Force 07-03-2004 06:35 PM

yea i just wanted to say great thread....i was just wondering when the "Home Recording:Printable Thread" is going to be up.....or has it been up i just missed it...

theabstract 07-03-2004 06:56 PM

umm... yeah crap i forgot about the printable version. lol. I'll do it soon. I might do it as a word document and email it to whoever wants it coz there is a limit on how many words u can put on a post. But I will do it. Email me if u want one.
[email]fenderman3@hotmail.com[/email]

Liquid Force 07-03-2004 08:04 PM

ooo i dont one anymore b/c that is exactly what i did just copy and pasted all the lessons into word....so thx anyway

theabstract 07-03-2004 08:26 PM

I made the printable version. I changed it a bit too, to show my true identity lol

RichHunt 07-04-2004 08:02 AM

I'm looking into getting this

[url]http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=23785&item=3733520313&tc=photo[/url]

and this

[url]http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=15198&item=3733501719&tc=photo[/url]

for my band. I will eventually get some Shure SM57's and a nice Kick Drum mic but they are very costly.

Now, I have a Desktop computer, with the appropriate software.

Mic wise I plan on using on overhead, one snare and one kick drum for the drumkit.

A Mic up to an amp each for the guitars and a mic direct in for vocals.

What leads/wires should I plan on getting and how exactly does the mixer hook up to the PC?

Are there little things I should know before hand?

Will it hurt that much to have the amps on loud and the kit on in the same room? If so, can we make it not so bad by putting a matress in between (big matress too)

I won't be able to afford monitors straight off or anything, but that doesn't bother me, we're just going to record a few demos, maybe take them to a place that HAS got monitors and see if they are that bad there, but still yeah.

What does anyone think of that setup?

theabstract 07-04-2004 03:18 PM

thats a really nice desk man... wanna give it to me lol... ****s on mine. yeah thats good. As for the behringer 3 pack I have those mics. They acctually go ok on the snare drum. I sometimes use one of them over the 57 lol (not often). but yeah get them. Just make sure that everything sounds good before u record it. Make sure the drums are tuned good and it will sound OK. I have actually recorded that way a long time ago... one on the snare, one in the kick one overhead. Anyhow, hook me up on msn and I'll explain a few more things to u :)

Vitriolic Rage 07-05-2004 05:43 AM

[QUOTE=Metallicadrummer]Hey theabstract...i've searched kazaa for fruityloops, acidpro and leafdrums, and all three cam up with no result...do you think you could tell me exactly what to search for to find these programs?
thanks[/QUOTE]
Kazaa, I found LeafDrums on [url]www.download.com[/url], then download Drumkit From Hell from Kazaa, which is a load of drum samples, use those in Leafdrums, and bazzam!
If you go here you can dwnload drum samples from the Alesis SR - 16 drum machine: [url]http://www.hollowsun.com/vintage/sr16/[/url]

Itwasthatwas 07-05-2004 07:04 PM

You can get Drumkit From Hell from KaZaA?!?!?!?! I searched KaZaA for a week and couldn't find it.

theabstract 07-05-2004 08:18 PM

who said u can get a drumkit from hell? type samples

Itwasthatwas 07-06-2004 03:34 PM

um... that didn't make any sense.... what are you talking about? look at the post above mine (above yours).

casbah rocker 07-07-2004 11:40 AM

hey abstract, nice thread i been reading up and i just got an account

anyway, me and my band are planning on recording a cd by ourselves soon and i ws wondering... how do you keep each of the mics from picking up the other instruments if you record all the tracks in one take? or do you not record all the tracks in one take? and if you dont then how do you do it?


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