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Jade75XL 06-30-2004 02:08 AM

[QUOTE=anti-social_guitarist]i own every afi lp/ep and it's true that afi is a band that grows on you. originally i didn't even think the record was that great, but after awhile it grew to be one of my favorite records of all time. afi is a great band, jade is an awesome guitarist, hunter's bass playing is cathy as hell, adam has made great beats, and davey's vocals are something you just don't find anywhere else. but it's the honesty that brings out the greatness of this band. that's why afi is one of the greatest bands of all time, because they're powerfull and meaningfull. true afi fans would die for the band.[/QUOTE]


I'd die for the band just look at my username and think about it

Guitarman1234 06-30-2004 06:31 AM

good band good album ok review

mirrorwave 07-13-2004 11:58 AM

[B]squee333[/B]

Quote:You know what pisses me off? People who dislike a band because other people like them. Even if the music hasn't gotten any worse, those kind of people are like "OMG IF I LIKE AFI I NOT HARDCORE!!!!!11111 MuSt TrY vErY hArD tO bE dIfFeRaNtZ!!!!!!!!!1111111oneoneone" Unquote

When other ppl say wot I'm thinkin i love it. how true, i h8 that kinda crowd, music is about the songs, the inspirations and the feelings it expresses not about whether ur social status will go up or not if u listen to it. AFI are one of the few bands i desperately wana see live, and i hav to clarify that this is my personal fav album of all time, it jus does something that no other album out there does, it feels right and i'm praying AFI can release another album like this, not exactly the same, jus with a the feel to it and variation.
And whoever said one for the emo kids is clearly some1 insecure bout wot they listen to, theres no need to try so hard, u like wot u like.

mirrorwave 07-13-2004 12:01 PM

[QUOTE=Guitarman1234]good band good album ok review[/QUOTE]
ok review now thats bein generous sum body else plz review this album and do it the review it deserves

RollerQueen 07-13-2004 01:24 PM

Let's hope that the person who DOES do another review for this album doesn't use the annoying, imbecilic misspellings that you did. plz, wot, u, some1, ppl... Those words should be censored. Lazy little kids...

And this album is still pretty good. I've had it a year and I still take it out from time to time.

mike racaddic 07-17-2004 04:05 AM

The Spice
 
[QUOTE=pixiesfanyo]i want to kill the singer of this band he annoys me to much...but the band without the singer are good[/QUOTE]

man your a dick AFI without Davey is like chips without dip they taste good but theres no spice. Davey is the spice...THE SPICE IS DAVEY....DAVEY...DAVEY....THE SPICE!!!!! :naughty: :naughty:

RancidAFI69 07-17-2004 07:56 AM

i personally thought that it was a great albumlots of awesome songs on it but they have taken a new change but they have done it well BUT i'd rather older stuff though i have and listen to sing for the sorrow alot

buzxgreenday19 07-18-2004 04:32 PM

This album is obviously different from the others. A.F.I. music is progessing from album to album, but all their album's are kick *** so why complain. Black Sails In The Sunset is easily their best album, but this one is very good too.

-Miseria Cantare (The Beginning)
This is a little chant song at the beginning but it actually sounds really good.
-The Leaving Song Pt.II
Great song. Love the little guitar intro and the overall sound makes you think it like the other albums.
-Bleed Black
This is when the tides start to change and you can tell it won't be like the other albumsstarts out like anot so fast, ahh like nice pace i guess not fast not slow. Then you get to the chorus and it breaks out to a hard sound but then breaks down to acoustics but finishes strong.
-Silver and Cold
This is really different than most of there stuff, but proboly the best song on the cd. More slow-paced, but not too slow.
-Dancing Though Sunday
this one gets you back into the album fast paced and with a metalish like solo.
-Girl's Not Grey
The catchy song on the album. Brillant, just Brillaint, thats all i have to say.
-Death Of The Seasons
This is like nothing they have done before, plus Davey says ****. but has a cool techno section which i like alot. My second favorite song on the album.
-The Great Dissapointment
a slow song to calm you down after Death of The Seasons over five min. long but a good song plus I like it when the bass comes in.
-Paper Airplanes (Makeshift Wings)
Fast song but breaks down in the middle but comes back hard. The more of and Old School A.F.I. song .
-The Celluloid Dream
Very good song not much to say other than that.
-The Leaving Song
The slow song on the album. Great lyrics and i like the guitars on it too.
-...but home is nowhere
starts out slow put hitshard on the chorus. Good song to end the album with.

Mozzletoffed 07-22-2004 10:14 AM

the review didn't cover all the songs, I personally liked this album alot for the bass. Hunter is an awesome bassist.

mirrorwave 07-31-2004 12:54 PM

hmm sayin a song is great with lil explaination means nothing, depth is needed, i agree the music rules but without ilaborating why, then that means nothing.

theclash91 08-02-2004 04:05 PM

theres nothing really bad with this album besides that they completely changed their sound! arghhh well nice review

lifes_a_fallacy 08-05-2004 12:07 AM

This album changed the way that I listen to music.

Period.

Amenta 08-05-2004 07:00 AM

[QUOTE]i think sts is good but not as good as the others. i also think that (not all) but SOME people only sat that sts sucks because now afi is more popular and they are only saying that to sound cool. iduno if anyone on here does it but i know a few people who suddenly hate the music just cuz more people like it. dumb. ok flame away.[/QUOTE]
Theres a difference between getting a larger fan bse and selling out and going mainstream...

[QUOTE]man your a dick AFI without Davey is like chips without dip they taste good but theres no spice. Davey is the spice...THE SPICE IS DAVEY....DAVEY...DAVEY....THE SPICE!!!!! [/QUOTE]
And he's the hottest thing to ever walk th earth!

anti_errorist 08-19-2004 06:04 PM

STS is a great CD, it tells a story if you listen backwards... :D

ArockabillyFgirlI 08-19-2004 07:41 PM

STS is awsome. And if you like their old stuff better, I hate to tell u this but their not going back. AFI hates going back. Each one of their albums are different the only two albums that kind of sound alike are Black Sails In The Sunset and Art Of Drowning. And they say that the kids that are calling them "sell-outs" just because they signed on to a big label are posers or trendies. AFI remakes themselves with every album they make. They've worked so hard to get themselves to where they are, they deserve to be huge. Like they say "WE ARE FORMING IN THE DARKNESS"

AFI~AFI~AFI~AFI

sr800bkBassist 08-28-2004 04:48 PM

i used to hate this CD (and band), but then i saw them live last night. "the Leaving Song Pt. 2" and "Silver and Cold" were amazing live. i still cant get over that show. it was amazing...

dracula_SOAD 08-29-2004 08:57 PM

First off.....to all you people that like thier old stuff better......come on!!! STS is so much more advanced musically then any of their earlyer work, and Davey's singing has improved greatly!! and i hate to be a dick but.....personally, i think if someone cant see how much better STS is then any of their older stuff, then your not really going by the musicallity of it but by the image (harcore, not mainstream).
That being said, i think this album deserves a new review.
and also.........i am a huge fan of all their work...old and new.

thejaylord 09-02-2004 09:02 PM

i rely think that the album was way to emo, i rely ther old stuf thoug

Bartender 09-02-2004 09:18 PM

Emo? How do you get that? It did move closer to rock, from punk..not emo though.

loonylarny 09-02-2004 09:32 PM

This album has a few really good songs (Celluloid Dream, Dancing through Sunday) some decent ones (Paper airplanes, Death of Seasons) and some sub-par ones (...but home is nowhere, The great Disapointment) Overall, I think it is still a very good album and I would reccomend it. Altough it is not as good as the Art of Drowning (I haven't gotten Black Sails yet, it's $26 at HMV, but I've heard it's good) I'd still buy it

Bartender 09-02-2004 10:01 PM

I agree they were tempting fate with the name, but I rather like The Great Disappointment.

punker446 09-03-2004 09:51 AM

AFI will never, ever die. I've been into AFI for a long time and am practically obsessed with their old stuff (black sails) then sing the sorrow came out I thought it was one of the best things I've ever heard. Yes, they completely changed their sound... so fckng what?... they changed their sound with black sails, art of drowning is a little different from black sails... who was suprised when they changed with sing the sorrow? AFI is just one of those bands that will always re-invent themselves and because of that.. they will never Die.. AFI fckng rules and sing the sorrow is no exception.

splashfreak 09-03-2004 01:04 PM

[QUOTE]i want to kill the singer of this band he annoys me to much...but the band without the singer are good[/QUOTE]

Same here.

Anyway, strange review, but not bad. I think it is their best album but that is because I don't like street punk, and I can actually listen to this album without going deaf from screaming. I think girls not grey is one of the most addictive songs ever...

Sep 09-20-2004 07:29 AM

Alright, I did not like this review, so decided to have a go as well.

AFI is:
Davey Havok - vocals
Jade Puget - guitars, backing vocals
Hunter - bass, backing vocals
Adam Carson - drums, backing vocals.

[URL=http://www.afitribute.com/bio/]Click here for a biography.[/URL]

First off all, there are four different versions off this album;
- Red on black - the normal version.
- Silver on black - this print was limited to a number of copies, but isn't very rare.
- Black on black - RARE version, limited to 2000 copies only and also contains Clandestine, a strange video which is supposed to tell us more about the story around Sing The Sorrow. If you want to know what it's about, there are some good interpretations on the AFI message board.
- UK edition - Contains 2 extra songs; Now the World and Synesthesia.

This is AFI's poppiest album up to date, most songs are slower than their previous albums which isn't however always a bad thing. The backing vocals are probably better than they ever were before and Davey's voice isn't as yelly as before, but he actually sings, and he does it well! The lyrics are also the greatest Davey has ever written. They are very poetic and fit the songs really well. I will not comment specifically on the lyrics as they can be interpreted in many different ways.

Here comes the song by song review:

[B]1. Miseria Cantare - The Beginning[/B] - Miseria Cantare means Sing the Sorrow in latin I think? Anyway, this is the song that is played instead of Strength Through Wounding at the start of every show of theirs now. The music is quite beautiful, with a great catchy drumbeat. The song has very little lyrics, but AFI seem to have turned it into a great song nonetheless. The ending where the whole band sings 'love your hate, your faith lost, you are now one of us' never fails to make the hairs on my arm stand upright.
GREAT intro. 5/5

[B]2. The Leaving Song Part 2[/B] - This is the second single off the album, and what a great choice it was. After the poppy Girl's Not Grey, AFI want to show they still have a harder side that is shown in the chorus. Davey really shows his vocal skills in this song as he easily switches between a screaming voice and a very melodic singing voice. The first 'real' song off the album will just as in The Art Of Drowning and Black Sails In The Sunset not let you down. This song seems to be about suicide. 5/5

[B]3. Bleed Black[/B] - I've read a theory that the album was actually supposed to start with this song. That also explains why the Leaving Song Part 2 is before Part 1. This song has a VERY catchy chorus. 'If you listen, listen close, beat by beat you can hear when the heart stops, I saved the pieces when it grows.' The whole band again joins in the chorus which makes all the songs sound so special to me. Great song. 5/5

[B]4. Silver And Cold[/B] - Third single off the album. Starts off with what sounds like a car driving in the rain. Then a piano bit comes in, followed by a slower dumfill and then the song starts. This song also has some electric drums. This song is one of the slower ones and is really quite beatiful. The first few times you hear this song you will be hooked, but it gets quite boring as most of the song seems to be consisting of the chorus. If you have the chance also check out their video, which is quite interesting and unusual. 3.5/5

[B]5. Dancing Through Sunday[/B] - The shortest and fastest song on here. Most of the lyrics are yelled and the verses are very fast. Some very good and dark lyrics like: 'Will you lend yourself to beauty that will horrify?
Let me hide within your black, the still inside your eyes.' After the second chorus the song slows down, and after Davey yells 'We all have no chance in this horrid romance!' the song goes at full speed again and Jade puts in a great guitar solo. The song ends with another chorus and is finished within 2 and a half minutes. Right before the solo, at about 1:45 you should turn up the volume a little and you can hear Davey say something which sounds like he was punched in the stomach which is quite funny. :p 4.5/5

[B]6. Girl's Not Grey[/B] - Their most famous song, and also the song that brought some many new fans to AFI. This song has some very tight drumming throughout the whole song and I like it how Adam opens up his high hat in the verses while doing this fast punk beat, sounds very cool. The whole song is very catchy, and in my opinion it doesn't seem to get any less good the more you listen to it. My favorite part is the snare drum part before the third chorus. Everything fits together so well there. The ending, after the last chorus where Davey sings 'What follows!' shows how beautiful his voice is. Also has a very cool and unusual video that you should check out. 4.5/5

[B]7. Death Of Seasons[/B] - Their hardest song up to date. Davey screams throughout the whole song apart from the choruses. The lyrics are again very beautiful and very poetic: 'I watch the stars as they fall from the sky.
I held a fallen star and it wept for me, dying.' There is also a little techno part before the second verse which many people seem to hate, but I think it suits the song very well. The ending is however what makes this song so great, I think it also has a violin playing. This is also supposed one of their greatest live songs. Definitely a 5/5.

[B]8. The Great Dissapointment[/B] The longest song on this record, it is about 5 and a half minutes long and quite calm and relaxed all the way through. This is the first song where I actually notice the bass and it sounds very well together with the drums. This song contains probably my favorite lyrics of the whole song: 'Oh how I smiled then, so near the cherished ones.
I knew they would appear, saw not a single one.' This is also the first song to have unusual song structure. Eg. it doesn't have the usual ABABCB structure most songs off this album have. My favorite part is the ending. 4/5.

[B]9. Paper Airplanes (Makeshift Wings)[/B] Some people hate this song, others love it. You have the be in the right mood I guess, it is a very happy song with the usual dark lyrics from Davey which fit the song very well again. This song also contains some screaming and I think if you're in the mood for it this song will make you want to get off your lazy arse and start dancing all around the room. Very cool song. :) 4/5

[B]10. This Celluloid Dream[/B] The intro of this song always makes me smile when Davey does the 'Oh!' before the song fully starts. I think Jade uses 2 or 3 guitars in this song and it sounds awesome. The chorus of this song has 2 parts and is quite poppy, but amazing at the same time. There is a really great part before the third chorus where the whole band sings 'All the Colors, upon living, all will turn to grey.' I like it how Adam uses the bell of his cymbals in the slower part. The last chorus is very awesome too. 5/5

[B]11. The Leaving Song[/B] This is a short song that just has an acoustic guitar and Davey singing. This is a very good acoustic. You might have seen this song live at Musique Plus in Canada, which I think was also the only time they ever performed this song live. Not much else to say about this song. 5/5

[B]12. But Home Is Nowhere...[/B] Unlike their last two albums, this album doesn't end with a slower song like Morningstar and God Called In Sick Today. This is actually one of the heavier songs on the record. I personally find this song the weakest off the album. The chorus is kind of boring. The screaming part near the end is however amazing, and the last chorus is pretty good too, where Davey screams instead of singing which pulls the rating of this song upto a 3.5/5.

After BHIN... there is about a minute of silence, after which a poem starts. This poem tells the story of Sing The Sorrow, but is possible even more vague than the lyrics of the whole album. The poem starts with a child (who is Jade's cousin, I believe) reading it out. The second part is read out by a young man and then an older man reads it out, as if the boy is getting older.

[B]This Time Imperfect[/B] This is a secret song, well not really that secret as the lyrics are inside the booklet. This is also one of the slower songs off this album and Davey's voice is the most beautiful I've ever heard it. This song is truly amazing. 5/5

[B]* 13. Now The World[/B] Only available on the UK version of Sing The Sorrow. Starts off with a quick drumfill, then the guitar and bass come in. The verses are kind of boring, but the chorus makes up for this. The best part of this song is the bit where it slows down in my opinion. The ending is alright with the whole band singing 'Will you cry for me?' 3.5/5

[B]* 14. Synesthesia[/B] This is seriously one of the best songs I've ever heard. Starts off with a drumbeat where Adam makes his drumkit sound huge while he only uses 2 toms. The band also sings in the verse in contrast to most of the other songs on this record. The chorus also consists of two parts the first part being more quiet and in the second part the whole band joins in again. The guitaring is great in this song. Then the whole song slows down, and Davey repeats 'Let me feel all the words, echo in comfort' a few times. You feel the song building up slowly as he repeats this and you know a great ending will come. The ending is more than great in my opinion, it is incredible with the whole band joining Davey. I get goosebumps almost every time I hear this song. :) 5/5

Favorite songs:
Miseria Cantare
Death Of Seasons
This Time Imperfect
Synesthesia

Overall: 4.5/5 Pop-rock at it's best I'd say. :thumb:

vaynesinknots 09-20-2004 09:45 AM

good review ^^. i love this cd, but i love all afi, from 'a fire inside ep' to 'sts'.

splashfreak 09-20-2004 10:03 AM

[QUOTE]6. Girl's Not Grey - Their most famous song, and also the song that brought some many new fans to AFI. This song has some very tight drumming throughout the whole song and I like it how Adam opens up his high hat in the verses while doing this fast punk beat, sounds very cool. The whole song is very catchy, and in my opinion it doesn't seem to get any less good the more you listen to it. My favorite part is the snare drum part before the third chorus. Everything fits together so well there. The ending, after the last chorus where Davey sings 'What follows!' shows how beautiful his voice is. Also has a very cool and unusual video that you should check out. 4.5/5[/QUOTE]

This is the song that made me get this album. I have drummed to it often, and the drumming definitely fits the song, but that interlude... ugghhh... I can't STAND that part in the song... Makes no sense...

Anyway, really good review. Yours i mean.

Sep 09-20-2004 10:27 AM

Thanks guys. :) And splashfreak, how come you don't like that part? I also really enjoy playing Girl's Not Grey on drums. It might actually be my favorite song on drums. :)

splashfreak 09-20-2004 01:22 PM

^The biggest reason i don't like it is that my guitarist can't for the life of him stay on time with that part. I thought it might be me for awhile--even though i basically just play the same thing over and over again, i wasn't going to be bullheaded and say it wasn't my fault--but when we played it with the CD on, i always stayed on time and he always came off...

I don't know. He has fixed it now and he stays on time, its just that that part of the song seems so... out of place. I haven't seen the video, maybe that explains it.

But yeah, girls not grey is one of my favorites to drum too... behind Moby Dick and What If...

ddrfreak62 09-20-2004 02:40 PM

Davey Havoks Hair RULES!!!

Dark Hero 09-20-2004 02:49 PM

I have this album somehow.

RollerQueen 09-20-2004 07:14 PM

[QUOTE=splashfreak]^The biggest reason i don't like it is that my guitarist can't for the life of him stay on time with that part. I thought it might be me for awhile--even though i basically just play the same thing over and over again, i wasn't going to be bullheaded and say it wasn't my fault--but when we played it with the CD on, i always stayed on time and he always came off...

I don't know. He has fixed it now and he stays on time, its just that that part of the song seems so... out of place. I haven't seen the video, maybe that explains it.

But yeah, girls not grey is one of my favorites to drum too... behind Moby Dick and What If...[/QUOTE]

Mastadon and Creed? Regardless, I'm glad there's at least one band you and I enjoy and agree on, splashfreak :)

Good review and I agree. I like their post-[I]A Fire Inside EP[/I] work but I like this cd the most. "God Called In Sick Today" is still my favourite track of theirs but as a whole, this album is teh roxorcist. Thanks again for sending me "Synthesia". The enhanced cd still doesn't work like that!

Sep 09-21-2004 08:17 AM

Yeah I understand now why it didn't work for you. The secret site has been taken down quite a while ago. Oh yeah, AFI are working on their new album now! I can't wait! :)

splashfreak 09-21-2004 09:03 AM

[QUOTE=RollerQueen]Mastadon and Creed? Regardless, I'm glad there's at least one band you and I enjoy and agree on, splashfreak :)[/QUOTE]

Uh, I've never heard of Mastadon... I was talking about Led Zep's Moby Dick...

Either way, yeah, u seem to like pop-punk stuff a lot, and that is not exactly my area of... um... enjoyment, sc this AFI album is as far as i go.

evuurvanbinnen 09-21-2004 10:31 AM

when is their new album going to be out?
I thought they were stopping.
that's so cool . AFI is the best band

Sep 09-21-2004 10:37 AM

You're the first Dutch AFI fan I've met, eenvuurvanbinnen. :) Anyway, their new album will probably be out around Februari or March next year. That's what I hope at least.

RollerQueen 09-21-2004 04:30 PM

[QUOTE=splashfreak]Uh, I've never heard of Mastadon... I was talking about Led Zep's Moby Dick...

Either way, yeah, u seem to like pop-punk stuff a lot, and that is not exactly my area of... um... enjoyment, sc this AFI album is as far as i go.[/QUOTE]

Mastadon's one of the better metal acts... And as for the pop-punk thing, not really. I like pop-punk about as much as any other kind of music in my rotation, ranging from metal to acoustic to SDRE-style stuff to jazz. Ah well. Zep is pretty much unmatched.

And yeah, Sep, that would probably explain why I couldn't get it. I guess it pays to keep up with stuff like that!

Can't wait for their new album. Did you hear about the MTV Icons thing they did for The Cure? I can't wait for that, either. Hopefully it wasn't their version of "Hanging Garden" (which was great but it's been more than half a decade since they recorded it).

CommieCanada 09-21-2004 04:38 PM

[QUOTE=RollerQueen]Can't wait for their new album. Did you hear about the MTV Icons thing they did for The Cure? I can't wait for that, either. Hopefully it wasn't their version of "Hanging Garden" (which was great but it's been more than half a decade since they recorded it).[/QUOTE]
:eek:

WHEN IS THAT SUPPOSED TO AIR??!?!?

sr800bkBassist 09-21-2004 04:40 PM

[QUOTE=Sep]Yeah I understand now why it didn't work for you. The secret site has been taken down quite a while ago. Oh yeah, AFI are working on their new album now! I can't wait! :)[/QUOTE]
yeah, when i saw them in August Davey said it was their last show for a few months, because they were in the studio, working on new material.


anybody heard their cover of NIN's "Head Like A Hole" yet? its sweet, and its gonna be on GTA: San Andreas.

sr800bkBassist 09-21-2004 04:42 PM

[QUOTE=thejaylord]i rely think that the album was way to emo, i rely ther old stuf thoug[/QUOTE]
then you've never heard emo before. idiot.

RollerQueen 09-21-2004 07:54 PM

[QUOTE=CommieCanada]:eek:

WHEN IS THAT SUPPOSED TO AIR??!?!?[/QUOTE]

No word as of yet.

From the AFI website, as reported on September 16th, 2004:

[QUOTE][B]AFI TO PERFORM AT MTV ICON 2004[/B]

Band to join Blink 182 at unique live tribute event to The Cure

London 15 September 2004: AFI, the MTV2 Award winners from the MTV Video Music Awards 2003 are the latest acts to be confirmed to perform at MTV Icon, an exclusive live tribute event featuring The Cure, to be filmed from London’s Old Billingsgate Market on 17 September 2004, it was announced today.

The enigmatic rockers will join multi-platinum pop-punk legends Blink 182 at the live spectacular which will feature performances and testimonials from artists and celebrities who have been influenced by The Cure, their videos and their music. In an explosive finale, 25-year rock veterans The Cure, will take the stage for a show-stopping live set.

AFI's evolution into one of the most passionately worshipped and dynamic live bands on the planet is belied by its humble origins in the mid 90s as a primitive teen punk band. Since the late 90s, the current AFI line-up of Davey Havok (vocals), Jade Puget (guitar), Hunter (bass) and Adam Carson (drums) has forged a unique blend of unbridled aggression and introspective melancholy that has earned them platinum sales in the US and the admiration of critics and fans worldwide.

AFI's 2003 album 'Sing The Sorrow' is the band's most adventurous record yet, forging ever forward into uncharted territory like the virtuoso guitar intro of 'The Leaving Song Pt. 2' or the industrial dance disintegration of 'Death of Seasons,' as well as the enthralling and infectious verses and choruses of 'Girl's Not Grey' and 'Bleed Black.'

MTV Icon is designed to honour a band or recording artists for their significant contribution to music, music video and pop culture throughout their career. Blink 182, AFI and The Deftones will join event host - rock star extraordinaire Marilyn Manson - at MTV Icon, with more performers still to be announced. The event will be beamed across MTV Europe’s network of 119 million homes from October 2004.[/QUOTE]


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