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EonBlueApcolyps 11-04-2005 11:55 PM

I like his playing very much. I definetly prefer his solo stuff over TMV/ATDI

comptonasseddy 11-08-2005 11:55 AM

so the new mars volta came out today, i dont have it yet and doubt ill get it for a while (because of finiaicial reasons) so has his live skills increased since frances the mute?

neal_672 11-08-2005 12:40 PM

Love him, he's superb.

More so with TMV though, didn't really stand out with ATDI...

strowen 11-08-2005 04:33 PM

The Mars Volta are my favourite modern band, so yes, I LOOOVE him. Although for the sake of being non-bias, I sometimes get a bit fed up with his drawn out sections which only consist of effects+random notes, especially on Frances the Mute. I still love him though.

CarrionBirds 11-08-2005 06:44 PM

[QUOTE=Iai]Totally indifferent to him.[/QUOTE]

you never listened to at the drive in or the mars volta?

anyway, i love him. i like his stuff in at the drive in better though

Hep Kat 11-10-2005 03:17 PM

his playing in atd-i didn't really impress me until relationship of command came out.

Iai 11-10-2005 04:44 PM

[QUOTE=CarrionBirds]you never listened to at the drive in or the mars volta?[/QUOTE]
Indifferent.

1. Having no particular interest or concern; apathetic: indifferent to the sufferings of others.
2. Having no marked feeling for or against: She remained indifferent toward their proposal.

This one describes his pretty well, too:
6. Being neither good nor bad; mediocre: an indifferent performance. See synonyms at average.

fuzzymayo 11-10-2005 11:55 PM

I'm definately a TMV fan boy, but he can definately get on my nerves from time to time, occasionally I'll wonder if he listens to himself when he does weird crap, but for the most part I love him.

I always thought the big question about Mars Volta band members was Cedric's voice. Seems lotsa people don't like it.

london_calling 11-11-2005 02:39 AM

I think Cedric's voice is great, but I hate it when people call them emo just because of Cedric's voice. If they stopped to listen to the music they might think differently. But to answer the thread, I think Omar is an awsome guitarist. Maybe not the best but still great.

Hep Kat 11-11-2005 09:19 AM

cedric's voice is incredible, and omar is an amazingly talented and creative guitarist.


'nuff said.

Borkola 11-11-2005 10:51 AM

[QUOTE=italic zero][URL="http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b396/andrewsnow/omar1.jpg"]Who doesn't love this man?[/URL][/QUOTE]
Amazing.

Well, he can't really hold his own, but The Mars Volta is one of those bands where you can't take one thing out and it'd sound alright. I dig his guitar playing on Televators, and I love the solo on L'Via l'Viaquez.

YDload 11-11-2005 11:24 AM

[QUOTE=london_calling]I think Cedric's voice is great, but I hate it when people call them emo just because of Cedric's voice. If they stopped to listen to the music they might think differently. But to answer the thread, I think Omar is an awsome guitarist. Maybe not the best but still great.[/QUOTE]

Nobody calls them emo. They aren't even close to the pop-punk which people think is emo, nor the emotional hardcore which is true emo (although At the Drive-In was close).

BillCosby 11-11-2005 12:08 PM

[QUOTE=YDload]Nobody calls them emo. They aren't even close to the pop-punk which people think is emo, nor the emotional hardcore which is true emo (although At the Drive-In was close).[/QUOTE]


I know people who have called them emo. But they're stupid.

They also called Muse emo.

/post

Glitterati 11-11-2005 01:32 PM

I like The Mars Volta, but I'm pretty indifferent about his guitar playing. I mean, he's good enough, but he doesn't really shine as anything spectacular, at least not to me.

CarrionBirds 11-11-2005 03:41 PM

[QUOTE=Iai]Indifferent.

1. Having no particular interest or concern; apathetic: indifferent to the sufferings of others.
2. Having no marked feeling for or against: She remained indifferent toward their proposal.

This one describes his pretty well, too:
6. Being neither good nor bad; mediocre: an indifferent performance. See synonyms at average.[/QUOTE]

you forum dwellers are funny man

do you feel good now that you tried to make me feel stupid?

Strummerville 11-12-2005 01:24 PM

Omar's a bit of a legend in my book. Fantastic guitarwork on both Frnaces The Mute and De-loused.

dillinger44 11-12-2005 09:50 PM

Omar is why i play guitar. i've seen a lot of people complaining about how sloppy he is, but apparently they've never watched a jimi hendrix, jimmy page or john maclaughlin(in mahavishnu, not with di meola and paco de la lucia) live video. the last time i checked, TMV (or atdi) wasn't trying to be dream theater. in my opinion, they are about pouring every ounce of their being into their performance and using music as a means of artistic expression, not showing off how many notes per second they can play. sometimes, sloppy playing is the price they pay for that. there is a time and place, such as classical or metal, where percise playing is imperitive. but that is not TMV. what do you think old jazz guys thought when they first heard bitches brew by miles davis?

hey, you're not cory! 11-13-2005 03:16 PM

He's an AMAZING guitar player and musician. Hes great at what he does and is still after all this time making unique and impressive music.

He can be prentitous, yes, but he has the skill to pull it off.

BillCosby 11-13-2005 03:32 PM

[QUOTE=dillinger44]Omar is why i play guitar. i've seen a lot of people complaining about how sloppy he is, but apparently they've never watched a jimi hendrix, jimmy page or john maclaughlin(in mahavishnu, not with di meola and paco de la lucia) live video. the last time i checked, TMV (or atdi) wasn't trying to be dream theater. in my opinion, they are about pouring every ounce of their being into their performance and using music as a means of artistic expression, not showing off how many notes per second they can play. sometimes, sloppy playing is the price they pay for that. there is a time and place, such as classical or metal, where percise playing is imperitive. but that is not TMV. what do you think old jazz guys thought when they first heard bitches brew by miles davis?[/QUOTE]

What's your user title from?

Glitterati 11-14-2005 06:24 PM

Love him or hate him...

Heheh, that made me think think of "Hate Or Love It" by The Game. I like that song.

FACELESSnotBASSLESS 11-14-2005 08:54 PM

As far as solos go, his work can become repetive, but even those who can't stand TMV or ATDI must admit he is a genious as a composer.

Floydfanatic 11-14-2005 11:05 PM

i love him for atdi, and he's good in the mars volta

but i love him most for GSL

BillCosby 11-14-2005 11:07 PM

[QUOTE=BillCosby]What's your user title from?[/QUOTE]

Ah, nevermind. I remembered.

I rock you suck 11-17-2005 09:48 PM

I think he's a genius. I can't really decide what I liked him better in, At.The.Drive-In, The Mars Volta, or DeFacto. In ATD-I, it was more dissonance and strange, complicated yet insanely catchy riffs. In TMV, its more spacey-progressive latin fusion...and in DeFacto (in which he played bass) it's...unexplainable. He has probably placed the biggest impact on me. His style is one of the most original I've ever heard. I've also read somewhere that he knows very little music theory, and a big majority of his songwriting has come from his experiences and feel for the guitar. He influences me so much. He is a very creative and philosophical guitarist, and I respect him gr-eat-ly.

I rock you suck 11-17-2005 09:49 PM

I think he's a genius. I can't really decide what I liked him better in, At.The.Drive-In, The Mars Volta, or DeFacto. In ATD-I, it was more dissonance and strange, complicated yet insanely catchy riffs. In TMV, its more spacey-progressive latin fusion...and in DeFacto (in which he played bass) it's...unexplainable. He has probably placed the biggest impact on me. His style is one of the most original I've ever heard. I've also read somewhere that he knows very little music theory, and a big majority of his songwriting has come from his experiences and feel for the guitar. He influences me so much. He is a very creative and philosophical guitarist, and I respect him gr-eat-ly.

I rock you suck 11-17-2005 10:08 PM

[QUOTE=YDload]he's undoubtedly shown the greatest growth of any rock guitarist musically in such a short span of time, going from incompetent punk/indie rocker to a shredder who's a little TOO good to rein himself in. It's as if Mark Hoppus could suddenly play "Tommy the Cat" or Meg White tackling "YYZ." It's a very noticeable change in playing from [i]Acrobatic Tenement[/i] to [i]Frances the Mute[/i].[/QUOTE]

It is a very noticeable change in playing, but his roots are pretty firmly planted in Acrobatic Tenement. I've listened to all ATD-I, TMV, and DeFacto cds about a gajillion times. His awkward style of playing lead guitar is seen throughout all Acrobatic Tenement tracks. I agree, it is indie/punk, but not so much as incompetent. He was, then, as he is now, sloppy, but his style is very evident. His dissonance. His scattered, frenetic picking. His strange, 'Why in the hell is that so damn cool?' licks and riffs. Omar, though having grown very noticeably in ability, has still held pretty close to his original style.

EDIT: Sorry for posting twice above, my computer is incredibly slow, and it takes like 5 minutes for me to know if I even posted.


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