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Mute Print 10-25-2005 03:22 PM

Ska is awesome. I wish there was more of a ska scene around here, and less of a nu metal scene.

Firecracker 10-25-2005 03:34 PM

[QUOTE=BridgeToSolace]Ska is real cool though.

No one can complain about ska fans. Nicest people you'll ever see.[/QUOTE]
My best friend is indeed a ska fan.
There are just no pop-punk fans.
My bf is the only prog metal fan i know.

BridgeToSolace 10-25-2005 03:35 PM

[QUOTE=firecrackercheese]My best friend is indeed a ska fan.
There are just no pop-punk fans.[/QUOTE]

Pop-punk and ska are close enough, nowadays.

Firecracker 10-25-2005 03:37 PM

[QUOTE=BridgeToSolace]Pop-punk and ska are close enough, nowadays.[/QUOTE]
They are kinda close, but i'm being picky here. :p

BridgeToSolace 10-25-2005 03:40 PM

[QUOTE=firecrackercheese]They are kinda close, but i'm being picky here. :p[/QUOTE]

I find that pop-punk is a difficult genre to peg on people.

If I see a guy, I can generally more or less tell if he's a metal fan, a hardcore fan, a punk fan, a ska fan, etc.

Pop-punk will suprise you, though. I've been surfing through hot chick's myspaces and several times and found that they like pop-punk when they struck me as completely mainstream whores (as opposed to only slightly, like pop-punk fans :p )

You never can know.

cobert 10-25-2005 03:40 PM

I read the first post and immediately thought of this:

I think i hate my sister. No really. I serioulsy hate her.

1. Shes a scenester.

2. As soon as a band is aclled grindcore, metalcore, or anything related to those (not real hardcore, though) she wanks over them to everyone else.

3. On her myspace, she didnt put taht she likes coheed and cambria or taking back sunday. I asked why and she said "I like them, but you know." I Figured because both are in no way related to ATDI or they dont scream 24/7.

4. She calls me a fag because i listen to saves the day, even though shes never heard anyhting from them. All she knows is that theyre pop-punk.

5. She lies on her myspace that she read a clockwork orange, when i dont even think shes seen the movie, let alone read the book. She says it cause its the cool thing to do.

6. Every time i buy a CD anymore (for about 6 months now), i have to hide it form her. She'll find it, scream at me for an hour for wasting my money, then say i shouldve downloaded it. She wont let me download anything however, because she says ill download bad music. I think she missed the point that i would download music so i know what a band sounds like. Most recently, she insulted me today for buy '13 songs' by Fugazi. I actually think she'd like it, its like ATDI + funk.

7. She thinks shes above everyone else because she heard of ______(insert band) before they did, and theyre just jumping on the bandwagon.

8. She thinks emo is 'faggot my girlfriend left me music, like dashboard confessional'.

9. She lost my copy of 'Worship and Tribute', by glassjaw.

10. She name drops. If you dont know what that is, its when you try to slyly sneak bands names into sentences and make it seem casual so that you seem like some scene god.

11. She yelled at me once at a local show for bobbing my head to a band that was pretty good. After she found their demo in my CD case (which she looks through weekly, i guess just to find reasons to make fun of me), she threw it awy. It was a good CD, too.

Admittedly, though, i wear girls pants and tight shirts. Its not because i want to look like some idiot with bad hair, but because it looks good on me (i do, however, refuse to straighten/dye my curly black fro). I really dont care if the person dresses a certain way or not as long as they do it because they want to, not so they can get more attention when walking into some restaurant after a show or if they can seem more 'holier than thou' to everyone else.

CommieCanada 10-25-2005 03:44 PM

so i missed a lot of discussion but i agree with a lot of things that Vince has said. I became so dissillusioned with the hardcore scene here that i flipped 180 degress and totally abandoned the music that i once loved maily because it didnt mean anything to me any more because the music itself felt so corrupted.

around here, being scene is the new preppie lifestyle. most of the scene kids are spoiled kids who dont know what real pain and loss is and dont seem to connect to the music at all but got into it because their friends did and it just snowballed. while you have a handful of kids that go to shows and stand up front next to the bands and dont try and fight invisible ninjas in the pit, they seem to be the minority now a days

BridgeToSolace 10-25-2005 03:45 PM

I fail to see how your sister lying on her myspace effects you at all. Stop bitching about it.

That whole throwing-away-CDs thing is lame as hell, though. It's your money, spend it how you want.

I wish my sister liked heavy stuff, though. It'd make long car trips a lot easier.

cobert 10-25-2005 03:47 PM

[QUOTE=BridgeToSolace]I fail to see how your sister lying on her myspace effects you at all. Stop bitching about it.

That whole throwing-away-CDs thing is lame as hell, though. It's your money, spend it how you want.

I wish my sister liked heavy stuff, though. It'd make long car trips a lot easier.[/QUOTE]

The myspace thing was more about the scene in general, and how its all a bandwagon. Im just tired of getting bitched at for liking music that i like for my own reasons, not music that 'scene'.

BridgeToSolace 10-25-2005 03:50 PM

[QUOTE=cobert]The myspace thing was more about the scene in general, and how its all a bandwagon. Im just tired of getting bitched at for liking music that i like for my own reasons, not music that 'scene'.[/QUOTE]

Or she may bitch about the music you listen to because she doesn't like it.

Or maybe she creams over any band that'd grindcore and whatever....because she really digs grindcore.

CommieCanada 10-25-2005 03:52 PM

[QUOTE=BridgeToSolace]Or she may bitch about the music you listen to because she doesn't like it.

Or maybe she creams over any band that'd grindcore and whatever....because she really digs grindcore.[/QUOTE]
i really dont get how anyone could dig grindcore

cobert 10-25-2005 03:55 PM

[QUOTE=BridgeToSolace]Or she may bitch about the music you listen to because she doesn't like it.

Or maybe she creams over any band that'd grindcore and whatever....because she really digs grindcore.[/QUOTE]

I know shes really does like grindcore and everything, but she has to be snobby and tell everyone she talks to about how crazy it is. She admits herself shes never heard anything from thursday or saves the day, the 2 bands she insists on picking on me for.

BridgeToSolace 10-25-2005 03:55 PM

[QUOTE=CommieCanada]i really dont get how anyone could dig grindcore[/QUOTE]

And I fail to see why you like The Blood Brothers and new Underoath.

People like different stuff.

Real Grindcore is pretty boring, though. Rotten Sound aint bad, I suppose. I can't tell if they're deathmetal or grindcore, however.

chips88 10-25-2005 03:56 PM

I think all this thread proves conclusively is that Vince is really good at ranting, and Joel needs a new avatar.

cobert 10-25-2005 03:57 PM

[QUOTE=chips88]Joel needs a new avatar.[/QUOTE]

Agreed.

BridgeToSolace 10-25-2005 03:59 PM

[QUOTE=cobert]I know shes really does like grindcore and everything, but she has to be snobby and tell everyone she talks to about how crazy it is. She admits herself shes never heard anything from thursday or saves the day, the 2 bands she insists on picking on me for.[/QUOTE]

Then pick on her for liking bands that you've never heard of. "Yeah, at least I like music with actually melody, you fat, ugly bitch!" and what not.

Grindcore is pretty crazy. If I liked it I'd tell people too. It takes balls. It's almost a badge of honor.

CommieCanada 10-25-2005 04:02 PM

[QUOTE=BridgeToSolace]Then pick on her for liking bands that you've never heard of. "Yeah, at least I like music with actually melody, you fat, ugly bitch!" and what not.

Grindcore is pretty crazy. If I liked it I'd tell people too. It takes balls. It's almost a badge of honor.[/QUOTE]
i was in a grindcore band. it was fun to play and all but it sounds like ****

Mute Print 10-25-2005 04:02 PM

Grindcore is something I can only take in incredibly small amounts.

In my opinion, if you take away the "Hot Topic" kids, and get to the core of the music scene, it's as strong as ever. There are so many good bands out there, and with the ability to download music, bands are getting a lot of recognition without ever getting radio/MTV play. It's awesome to go to a show and see a couple hundred people who are truly into a bnad that has never touched the mainstream.

cobert 10-25-2005 04:06 PM

[QUOTE=BridgeToSolace]Then pick on her for liking bands that you've never heard of. "Yeah, at least I like music with actually melody, you fat, ugly bitch!" and what not.

Grindcore is pretty crazy. If I liked it I'd tell people too. It takes balls. It's almost a badge of honor.[/QUOTE]

hahah. I like some grindcore myself. I wouldnt necesarily say its a badge of honor, but whatever.

EDIT: OMG mute print is b-ran.

BridgeToSolace 10-25-2005 04:10 PM

[QUOTE=cobert]hahah. I like some grindcore myself. I wouldnt necesarily say its a badge of honor, but whatever.

EDIT: OMG mute print is b-ran.[/QUOTE]

Note that I mean [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grindcore[/url].

Not Daughters and Locust and whatever.

Mute Print 10-25-2005 04:13 PM

:lol: High on Fire.

I saw them with Every Time I Die, and I couldn't here the vocalist at all. I was really close too. He was a pretty sweet guitarist though.

cobert 10-25-2005 04:19 PM

[QUOTE=BridgeToSolace]Note that I mean [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grindcore[/url].

Not Daughters and Locust and whatever.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, some stuff from agoraphobic nosebleed is cool. Napalm death is meh, i can listen to them.

Some of those subgenres are ridiculous.

CommieCanada 10-25-2005 04:22 PM

[QUOTE=BridgeToSolace]Note that I mean [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grindcore[/url].

Not Daughters and Locust and whatever.[/QUOTE]
whoa! we named our grindcore band Sore Throat!

Kif 10-25-2005 04:32 PM

[QUOTE=BridgeToSolace]Ska is real cool though.

No one can complain about ska fans. Nicest people you'll ever see.[/QUOTE]
That's so true. When we saw Sum 41, Mighty Mighty Bosstones were supporting. Now back then, I didn't care for them that much, but it was such a fun show because these complete strangers got us into a circle and started skanking. It was so fun, just hanging out and having a laugh.

I don't see how people can bitch about genres. Whether it's something close to music you like, like metalcore or grindcore or whatever (I'm sick to death of seeing bands being pushed into another "core" group though), or something far off like classical, world or hip-hop. There are a lot of bands I [b]don't like[/b], but I truely don't hate that many bands or artists

Permanent Solution 10-25-2005 04:59 PM

[QUOTE=chips88]I think all this thread proves conclusively is that Vince is really good at ranting, and Joel needs a new avatar.[/QUOTE]
Touche.

Jon: Most Ska fans are great, and I'm a huge fan of ska shows, but some of my real douche friends are big ska fans. Thanks to me :-\ Not douches at shows, but if you knew them outside of the show they'd be a douche. But eh, Finding good, cool people at shows is rare enough as is and I'm just being picky. Ska still has a great scene people wise.

Andy: Yeah, that's what I was hinting at towards the end. The kids entering the scene are these upper middle class suburban kids who in most cases can't even connect to the music. (I did say most, not all though :))

cbmartinez 10-25-2005 05:01 PM

I hate the kids around here who wear girl pants, white belts, dye their hair black, have lip rings, only listen to "hardcore" and "grindcore" and only listen to The Blood Brothers, Norma Jean or Bright Eyes. I got rid of my Norma Jean shirt because I didn't really wanna get associated with that crowd.

Mute Print 10-25-2005 05:02 PM

I've met a lot of people at shows. Since I'm always alone, people tend to come up to me and introduce themselves. I find that the scene around here is full of nice people, which is one positive.

Haha, Chris, I see so many of those kids at shows. It's really sad.

Permanent Solution 10-25-2005 05:06 PM

[QUOTE=cbmartinez]I hate the kids around here who wear girl pants, white belts, dye their hair black, have lip rings, only listen to "hardcore" and "grindcore" and only listen to The Blood Brothers, Norma Jean or Bright Eyes. I got rid of my Norma Jean shirt because I didn't really wanna get associated with that crowd.[/QUOTE]
:eek: That's the shirt I always remember you by though :p

Anyways I thought you were into this scene so your response surprised me.
[QUOTE=Mute Print]I've met a lot of people at shows. Since I'm always alone, people tend to come up to me and introduce themselves. I find that the scene around here is full of nice people, which is one positive.

Haha, Chris, I see so many of those kids at shows. It's really sad.[/QUOTE]
I always go alone, but I think the fact that I look twice as old as anyone else at the show intimidates people :-\

Mute Print 10-25-2005 05:09 PM

[QUOTE=zeppelinfan2k3]
I always go alone, but I think the fact that I look twice as old as anyone else at the show intimidates people :-\[/QUOTE]
Heh, I'm only 15, and I'm pretty sure I look it too. It seems I'm always having girls coming up to me at shows. They always ask me the same things too. "Are you here alone?", "Where are you from?", "How old are you?", "Who are you here to see?", "Do you go to a lot of shows?", and so on...

Permanent Solution 10-25-2005 05:11 PM

[QUOTE=Mute Print]Heh, I'm only 15, and I'm pretty sure I look it too. It seems I'm always having girls (never guys) coming up to me at shows. They always ask me the same things too. "Where are you from?", "How old are you?", "Who are you here to see?", "Do you go to a lot of shows?", and so on...[/QUOTE]
That's the point where it sucks to have your dad hanging around with you :p

It's true girls are usually more friendly though. Girls or drunk people.


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