[QUOTE=Slug]Does anyone else think Peter Tosh is a better guitar player then Bob Marley?[/QUOTE]

I do.

Yeah, I mean, Peter played lead and Bob played rhytm, for the most part. But none of them were really anything special on the guitar.

I have a bootleg that proves otherwise.

Al Anderson > Peter and Bob.

[QUOTE=i_luv_i_jah]To Start A Conversation:
The other day i was reading the reviews for African Holocaust (Steel Pulse) on Amazon and i found one poster:

Reviewer: MamboCha. (Cherry Hill, N.J. US)
[url]http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/customer-reviews/B0002DRE2C/ref=cm_cr_dp_2_1/104-6292430-7153512?%5Fencoding=UTF8&s=music[/url]

He talked about how kids today, wearing Bob Marley t-shirts etc. (not being really into reggae) think about Che Guevara when they think of Marley (both being something that seems to be in the "mainstream" at the moment) but if you think about it, Bob Marley would have been one of the people Che killed or sent to prison, because Bob spoke freely, spoke his mind. Check out the review he does a great job explaning it...Thoughts?[/QUOTE]

To try to add a differing view to you conversation...

I think that the writer of that review takes a pretty harsh criticism of Che and plays along with American propoganda. While Che believed it took ruthless measures to truly overthrow oppression and fascism, he never fell from his original ideals, and he always fought selflessly for the poor and helpless. I see no reason that Che would have killed Bob, since Bob would never have supported the Batistas in Cuba.

While I do not support any type of violence, including the Che's revolution, looking at it objectively (without the influence of American media propoganda) than you will see that the actions Che took to fight fascism around the world were not nearly as bad as the action that the American backed fascist states took to oppress their people and support American corporate interests.

As for Bob's specific politics. "Get up Stand up Stand up for you right don't give up the fight" seems to portray a message of standing up against oppression, similar to the message and the action that Che took to third world countries. The obvious arguement is that Cuba fell in with Soviet Russia and oppressed it's own people, betraying it's ideals. But I'd attribute this to Castro's pragmatic problem solving in a world dedicated to seeing him fail. In conclusion I would argue that Bob's ideals overlap greatly with those of Che's if not his ruthless action. However saying that Bob is better since he talked a lot with little action while Che took contraversial action would be wrong. And to assume that Bob would not have supported Che's ideals would also be wrong. I think that idealizing these two individuals, while maybe not perfectly accurate since they both had flaws, does portray an image of both love and revolution,

[QUOTE=Sweboy]Al Anderson > Peter and Bob.[/QUOTE]
agree 100% al anderson is an amazing guitar
then peter who is also a very good guitarist
and you never hear bob solo or anything, so i can't really say anything

[QUOTE=Slug]I have a bootleg that proves otherwise.[/QUOTE]
could you post that bootleg by anychance

[QUOTE=Slug]I have a bootleg that proves otherwise.[/QUOTE]

If that's the acoustic bootleg that someone (maybe you) uploaded a month or two ago in Alt/Indie, you should upload it again. The people here would like it.

[QUOTE=Daniel!]If that's the acoustic bootleg that someone (maybe you) uploaded a month or two ago in Alt/Indie, you should upload it again. The people here would like it.[/QUOTE]

Yea, that's the one.

I'll upload it tomorow.

What were your thoughts on it?

here's a modern dub song I'm using in FL's at the moment.
[b][url=http://www.comcen.com.au/~caracarol/Salmonella%20Dub%20-%20Push%20On%20Through.mp3]Salmonella Dub - Push On Through[/url][/b]
(Bartender gave it a 10/10 :))

[QUOTE=Slug]Yea, that's the one.

I'll upload it tomorow.

What were your thoughts on it?[/QUOTE]

I think it's awsome. There's same pretty sweet guitar playing on it. It made me go buy Legalize It. I think I'm going go listen to it right now.

[QUOTE=blueyxd]here's a modern dub song I'm using in FL's at the moment.
[b][url=http://www.comcen.com.au/~caracarol/Salmonella%20Dub%20-%20Push%20On%20Through.mp3]Salmonella Dub - Push On Through[/url][/b]
(Bartender gave it a 10/10 :))[/QUOTE]

great song...good post man :thumb:

i never really noticed this but check out Bad Brains S/T album
[url]http://www.rockhard.de/images/badbrains1_g.jpg[/url]
it represents the fall and destruction of babylon...thats what i see, agree disagree?

[QUOTE=i_luv_i_jah]great song...good post man :thumb:

i never really noticed this but check out Bad Brains S/T album
[url]http://www.rockhard.de/images/badbrains1_g.jpg[/url]
it represents the fall and destruction of babylon...thats what i see, agree disagree?[/QUOTE]

I would say thats a perfect description of that image. It looks like theyre taking a fatal blow at the babylon system.

Peace

Does anybody have anything by Scientist? And what are your thoughts on him?

Also, has anyone heard of Boozoo Bajou?

[QUOTE=magicbus]Does anybody have anything by Scientist? And what are your thoughts on him?

Also, has anyone heard of Boozoo Bajou?[/QUOTE]

i have one scientist song on my computor..thats it..do you want it?

Im actually uploading a Scientist album ive got on my computer right now. Dub in Roots Tradition. Peace

[QUOTE=KayaMon]Im actually uploading a Scientist album ive got on my computer right now. Dub in Roots Tradition. Peace[/QUOTE]
are you going to post it?

[QUOTE=i_luv_i_jah]are you going to post it?[/QUOTE]


of course, if it ever finishes uploading :p

so what do we think of sublime here? ive noticed they kindof slip past everything and dont really fall in one catogory or another. Also im starting to get into Bob Marley and a band i recently heard of called pepper, anyone heard or has albums?

Could someone perhaps recommend some good roots-reggae/acoustic reggae artists? I've been feeling a bit of that lately.

Sorry for the delay

Scientist- Dub in Roots Tradition
hxxp://s37.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=28CUBWDP5N43X35T506WXDMNWA

[QUOTE=KayaMon]Sorry for the delay

Scientist- Dub in Roots Tradition
hxxp://s37.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=28CUBWDP5N43X35T506WXDMNWA[/QUOTE]

Thanks very much :thumb:

[QUOTE=cortez the killer]so what do we think of sublime here? ive noticed they kindof slip past everything and dont really fall in one catogory or another. Also im starting to get into Bob Marley and a band i recently heard of called pepper, anyone heard or has albums?[/QUOTE]

Sublime is probably my favorite band of all time, so yeah, I think they're good. So sweet and so nice...

[QUOTE=rory_breaker]Could someone perhaps recommend some good roots-reggae/acoustic reggae artists? I've been feeling a bit of that lately.[/QUOTE]

acoustic reggae stuff:
abijah
some ziggy marley stuff...check that stuff out

Since Slug seemed to fogert about it, I uploaded the acoustic Peter Tosh bootleg. But, since I don't want to get in trouble from mx for posting YSI links, hit me up on AIM at bestnameever77. I'll give you the link.

[QUOTE=Daniel!]Since Slug seemed to fogert about it, I uploaded the acoustic Peter Tosh bootleg. But, since I don't want to get in trouble from mx for posting YSI links, hit me up on AIM at bestnameever77. I'll give you the link.[/QUOTE]
i dont have aim can you e-mail it to me:
[email]ska_lex@hotmail.com[/email]
EDIT: i got your e-mail, thanks alot...iam downloading it now

Here are the dub albums I downloaded today:

Scientist - Scientist Rids the World of the Evil Curse of the Vampires
King Tubby - Roots of Dub

Right now I'm downloading another Boozoo Bajou album, but I'm still trying to figure out exactly what genre they are, there are traces of dub in there.

AIM me if you want me to send you one.

[QUOTE=magicbus]Here are the dub albums I downloaded today:

Scientist - Scientist Rids the World of the Evil Curse of the Vampires
King Tubby - Roots of Dub

Right now I'm downloading another Boozoo Bajou album, but I'm still trying to figure out exactly what genre they are, there are traces of dub in there.

AIM me if you want me to send you one.[/QUOTE]
sorry (once again) i dont have aim could you e-mail it to me please
[email]ska_lex@hotmail.com[/email]

[QUOTE=magicbus]Scientist - Scientist Rids the World of the Evil Curse of the Vampires[/QUOTE]
The first time I heard Scientist was probably the first time I really heard dub. It was on Grand Theft Auto 3 on the radio station K-Jah. This was a long time ago before I knew how amazing reggae/dub was. I first found my love for the music through that radio station in the game. Sometimes I would just leave my game on pause with K-Jah playing all day. I think Scientist did all the songs on that station and I think all the songs are off that album you just listed.

I didn't find out the last bit of info until yesterday. So now I'm making it a point that that album will be the next purchase of mine.

[QUOTE=El_Shiznit]The first time I heard Scientist was probably the first time I really heard dub. It was on Grand Theft Auto 3 on the radio station K-Jah. This was a long time ago before I knew how amazing reggae/dub was. I first found my love for the music through that radio station in the game. Sometimes I would just leave my game on pause with K-Jah playing all day. I think Scientist did all the songs on that station and I think all the songs are off that album you just listed.

I didn't find out the last bit of info until yesterday. So now I'm making it a point that that album will be the next purchase of mine.[/QUOTE]

Yea this was the first Dub album I listened to. I heard it on K-Jah too, and all the songs on that station are on this album.

And i_luv_i_jah, I'm sending the YSI links to your email. In case they didn't go through:

Scientist Rids the World of the Evil Curse of the Vampires:
hxxp://s40.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0KA9MI1XBPWAC3J5HPFGFJ5YS7

King Tubby - Roots of Dub:
hxxp://s40.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1LRQBHA6LCWCR0TSNT9LV8PBNN

TO MAGICBUS: thanks for the links...i didnt get your e-mail so good thing you posted the link..thanks a bunch :thumb:
TO EVERYONE: thanks everyone for keeping this thread going, hopefully it will stay strong. We'll Be Forever Lovin' Jah!!

and
so i was naming the bootleg songs on the album...and i didnt know # 5 or # 9, anyone know which songs they are?
EDIT: nevermind i got it from here..check it out:
[url]http://www.bobmarley.freeserve.co.uk/triad.htm[/url]