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OneEyedMan 08-31-2005 08:26 AM

how about the rhcp's can't be moled into your genre's because they play their own msuic which is unlike anything else out there which in theory so should every good band. Remember bands get remembered for being different and origional. Most of the musi nowdays is not going to be remembered, stuff like simple plan etc are definately not going to be remembered. Stuff like Faith No More, rhcp and RATM, that is real music that is going to be remembered.
Rhcp's belong in their own genre which of course contains certain influences from these conceived genres, but make their own spin on things and produce amazing music that surpasses many other artists nowdays in musicianship ten fold.

John still likes bssm but he doesn't like the way he acted back then with the relying on drugs but he like the album, the playing of under the bridge at slane is a tribute to this, him sitting on the egde of the stage playing all along until the rest of the band comes along, brilliant.

Caleb3221 08-31-2005 01:51 PM

To the guy above the guy above me, you call them funk rock. Even in their old stuff, it was much more rock than funk, and I know that listening to the newer stuff I've heard, there is no funk in it at all. And, saying that because they cover funk, they are funk is also inane. For example, listen to their cover of Love Roller Coaster by the Ohio Players. That is a classic funk song. The cover is a great example of how NOT to play funk. I can't stand it. It lacks the groove and feel of the original and, in my opinion, sounds terrible, but that's not really relevant. And, you are dead wrong in thinking I think that funk should have stayed the same. I am a huge fan of the modern funk groups that have moved very far. They have just stayed funky.

An interesting point that I have been thinking too has been brought up. The ONLY people who I ever see saying RHCP are funk are fans. I have never seen anyone who dosen't like them say they are funk. Now, I can identify the genres of much music that I don't like and put it into the same category that the fans do. I freely admit that there is much funk that I don't like. But RHCP is not funk. Especially not now.

franz sanchez 09-01-2005 01:39 AM

Just for the record - I think that RHCP are a great band - a great rock band that is. Seen them live a couple of times and enjoyed every minute of it.

As for the comment about not wanting funk to advance? Tosh!! - Poets of Rhythm, Quantic Soul Orchestra, David Holmes - all pushing funk sounds further than the average RHCP diehard fan could comprehend and coming out with some great records. But this isn't that new either - take Hank Shocklee's Son of Bazerk project from around 15 years ago. Marvellous stuff.

Parradiddle Pete 09-05-2005 07:35 AM

'A type of popular music combining elements of jazz, blues, and soul and characterized by syncopated rhythm and a heavy, repetitive bass line.'
Chili Peppers = FUNK ROCK

Oddsen 09-05-2005 07:52 AM

They are a rock band with funk influences which I say wakes them at some point half funk half rock, probly freaky style. Than on Californiacation and by the way they pretty much dropped the funk except for a few tracks. So as Pete says they are FUNK ROCK.

Shawn Lane 09-07-2005 09:02 AM

I'd say that RHCP are more like Funk/Rock, mainly cause of Flea's Slap Bass and Funky Riffs.

I don't like them, but my band's Bassist and Drummer are obsessed w/ them, so I kinda have to do covers.

JohnXDoesn't 09-07-2005 09:04 AM

The RHCP are funky as hell. Period. Some of funkiest white boys to ever lay down a groove. Just ask George Clinton. He'll tell 'ya.

mutant! 09-07-2005 09:15 AM

[url]http://images.mweb.co.za/cms/22860/bob_city.mp3[/url]

No, Bed On Bricks are the funkiest white boys to ever lay down a groove. But you wouldn't know because they're South African. Oh well.

More to the point: I recently said this in another thread, but people need to stop saying 'funk' and 'blues' when they mean 'funk rock' and 'blues rock'. There's a difference, people.

JohnXDoesn't 09-07-2005 09:20 AM

[QUOTE=mutant!][url]http://images.mweb.co.za/cms/22860/bob_city.mp3[/url]

No, Bed On Bricks are the funkiest white boys to ever lay down a groove. But you wouldn't know because they're South African. Oh well.

More to the point: I recently said this in another thread, but people need to stop saying 'funk' and 'blues' when they mean 'funk rock' and 'blues rock'. There's a difference, people.[/QUOTE]

What is the difference? Why do we need to split hairs like that? If something is primarily funky, it's funk. I don't care of it has elements of rock in it. I can pick out plenty of RHCP songs that are straight up funk. Just like Bootsy Collins and the boys used to play. It's all good, people. Just let it groove :).

mutant! 09-07-2005 11:15 AM

I don't know, man. There's a vast difference between 'Funky Monks' and Horace Silver's tunes.

But yeah, who cares?! I'm anti-labeling anyway. I'll just stop posting now, and just let it groove. \m/ :) \m/

franz sanchez 09-08-2005 02:14 AM

[QUOTE]No, Bed On Bricks are the funkiest white boys to ever lay down a groove. But you wouldn't know because they're South African. Oh well.[/QUOTE]

Sorry mate, but that just is NOT funk either. It's pop/hip-hop if there was such a genre. In fact if anything it's like some of those awful Scandinavian 'we play acid-jazz' clones that we all thought we'd seen the last of in 1995. It goes back to the old argument, just because something is funky, it isn't necessarily FUNK.

You guys really do need to look out for bands like:

New Mastersounds [url]http://www.newmastersounds.com/index.htm[/url]

The Dap-Kings [url]http://www.daptonerecords.com/audio/dap1001-B.mp3[/url]

Mighty Imperials [url]http://www.daptonerecords.com/audio/imp01.mp3[/url]

Reverend Cleatus [url]http://www.reverend-cleatus.com/tracks/6%20Salt%20Popcorn.mp3[/url]

Boogaloo Investigators [url]http://www.boogalooinvestigators.co.uk/03thesedays.m3u[/url]


Pick up the CD "Hot Funky and Sweaty" on the Acid Jazz label to hear more 'proper' funk recorded over the last couple of years.

Big J 09-09-2005 11:27 PM

I'm a huge fan of the peps

I would put them in Alternative Funk, simply because some of their stuff is funk and some is alternative. Their older stuff is much funkier than their newer stuff, eg. Subterranian Homesick Blues and Funky Monks are hugely funky songs, along with I Like Dirt.

jake plays guitar 09-11-2005 02:42 PM

no chilli peppers=rock

C. OSullivan 09-11-2005 03:56 PM

[QUOTE=Big J]Subterranian Homesick Blues and Funky Monks are hugely funky songs, along with I Like Dirt.[/QUOTE]

You picked the most damaging examples to the arguement that the Chili Peppers did at one time play funk. Especially I Like Dirt.

And as stated, "funky" doesn't constitute "funk."

beaker_747 09-16-2005 01:54 AM

Funky secks.

HumanHiFi 09-16-2005 05:12 AM

why aren't the RHCP threads banned yet? Even though the "OMGOMGOMGOMGRHCP, FUNK????!!!" threads are probably a main source of posters in this forum, its still annoying. it's similar to the "whats a good first [insert instrument]" thread for musicians, boring, samey and obvious. variety, please!

Orange Fog 09-17-2005 05:01 PM

RHCP are mostly rock, with SOME remotely funky songs.

wardy 09-19-2005 05:15 AM

Chili Peppers are filled with funk influence and punk as well. They are a blend and have their own sound which took them ages to define. I would say they are alternative not a funk band even tho there are elements of funk in the their music

Chameleon 09-19-2005 06:56 AM

They iz the met0l

Joe 09-24-2005 11:23 PM

[QUOTE=DubyaJoe]They iz the met0l[/QUOTE]

umm...

They've got a lot of rock and funk influence. Most of their old stuff I'd consider a fusion of rock and funk, but now most of their stuff is rock.

Chameleon 09-25-2005 02:18 PM

[QUOTE=Joe]umm...

They've got a lot of rock and funk influence. Most of their old stuff I'd consider a fusion of rock and funk, but now most of their stuff is rock.[/QUOTE]

Ahem...

[quote=me]They iz the met0l[/quote]

/argument

mutant! 09-25-2005 02:59 PM

Wait, I'm gonna see what gizoogle has to say about this.

Red Hot Chili Peppers are an amazing band of dynamic artists who should continue to write songs until the day they die.

mutant! 09-25-2005 03:04 PM

Gizoogle says:

Red Hot Chili Shot Calla is an amaz'n band of dynamic artists who should continue ta write songs until tha day they die. Its just anotha homocide.

soulnomad 09-27-2005 09:08 AM

[QUOTE=KRASH]This is something I have always wanted to know, i love the red hot chili peppers but i don't know what genre they fall under, people say Funk, thus the reason im posting here others say Alt/Inde some Rock, Modern Rock Pop Punk.How do they fall under and what do they fall under?[/QUOTE]
They are just good musicians who cut their teeth on funk by the master of funk,George Clinton.
I'd say they are a rock band with elements of funk just due to their approach being more guitar and volume driven.Funk is more bass and drum driven with a deep pocket and that really isnt the case with The RHCP's.

NEDM 09-27-2005 09:10 AM

I sort of agree but I think the band is funk rock and it won't change. But we'll have to see what their next cd looks like.

robfly 10-03-2005 08:08 PM

used to be funk
 
:thumb: [QUOTE=KRASH]This is something I have always wanted to know, i love the red hot chili peppers but i don't know what genre they fall under, people say Funk, thus the reason im posting here others say Alt/Inde some Rock, Modern Rock Pop Punk.How do they fall under and what do they fall under?[/QUOTE]

The peppers used to be funk, check out their first couple of albums. You should also check out BLOW FLY flea worked with him in the early 90's along with fishbone. He's one of the first rappers ever and has influenced so many different artists

robfly 10-03-2005 08:13 PM

[QUOTE=MaxLeighton]I don't feel like listening to your band but, I'll assume you're a funk expert. But, you're certainly not an expert on RHCP is you say that they were never funk. Freaky Styley is their only album I would say is a funk album. It was produced by George Clinton so, it's not hard to beleive that it was funk. Listen to the album and tell me that I'm wrong.[/QUOTE]

That was a pretty shameless plug but I'm gonna make another one. check out BLOW FLY if you haven't heard of him already, very funky and he's been around since the seventies and still touring and making albums.
[url]www.myspace.com\blowfly[/url]

PinkFreud 10-03-2005 09:18 PM

[QUOTE=robfly]:thumb:

The peppers used to be funk, check out their first couple of albums. You should also check out BLOW FLY flea worked with him in the early 90's along with fishbone. He's one of the first rappers ever and has influenced so many different artists[/QUOTE]
if he was around in the early 90's then he was most definitely NOT one of the first rappers ever.

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SuperBadMonkey 10-04-2005 08:59 AM

These red hot chili peppers threads are getting very samey. Think about it, after the thread starter posted this thread what did he expect to happen>? Some peopl ewill give there opinions but wont meen anything. It would hel looking back at the rest of these types of threads, get your answer from there


Currently red hot chili peppers are pop rock, allthough i fail to see how they were ever funk. They had a hint of funk in there somewhere due to flea, and jhon frusciante ( or dave navaro) with there kick *** distortion and wah.

mutant! 10-04-2005 09:06 AM

Can I tell you something? Even if you post in this thread to diss it, [i]you're still posting in it[/i]. Thus, it will stay at the top of the forum, people will continue to see it, and therefore people will continue to post in it.

Just let it die a quiet death. It's the only way.


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