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AcerbicCunnt77 09-02-2005 08:47 PM

semi-bump cos no one answered my question

70 Cam Guy 09-02-2005 10:27 PM

sorry I missed your question before...

My MIM Pbass actually weighs slightly less than my MIA Jazz and I vaguely remember an MIA Pbass in the store feeling heavier than my Pbass.

I'm not sure if that's a normal thing or just coincidence

AcerbicCunnt77 09-03-2005 11:11 PM

hmm, maybe cos mim have that nasty hole under the pickguard, i would imagine a jazz weighing more then a p bass in general because the offset body shape = more wood, no?

70 Cam Guy 09-04-2005 12:28 AM

[QUOTE=AcerbicCunnt77]hmm, maybe cos mim have that nasty hole under the pickguard, i would imagine a jazz weighing more then a p bass in general because the offset body shape = more wood, no?[/QUOTE]

I hadn't thought about the different body shape. I am pretty sure the US Pbass I picked up in the store weighed more than my mexi model because I made a comment to the sales guy. Maybe someone else will chime in

Next time you're in the store, check it out if you remember

DarkGothComy 07-12-2006 11:53 AM

My jazz is made in korea...Where does it fit in with all this?

NavyBass 07-12-2006 02:03 PM

[QUOTE=DarkGothComy]My jazz is made in korea...Where does it fit in with all this?[/QUOTE]

It must be a Squier. That would be their low end.

DarkGothComy 07-12-2006 02:57 PM

[QUOTE=NavyBass]It must be a Squier. That would be their low end.[/QUOTE]

It's not a squire, I'm positive. It's a jazz 24, not your usual jazz, thats probably why

NavyBass 07-12-2006 06:33 PM

[QUOTE=DarkGothComy]It's not a squire, I'm positive. It's a jazz 24, not your usual jazz, thats probably why[/QUOTE]

Oh, OK. Those aren't bad at all. I'd put them in between Mexican and Japaneese ones.

The reason I said it might be a Squier is because some early Squiers were made in Korea.

Rowan S 07-16-2006 01:19 PM

I was gonna buy a Jazz Bass Standard, then modify the **** out of it.. Strip it down, and replace everything on the body, and stick a D Tuner on. do you think i should buy a MIA, for the better quality wood, neck, truss rod etc etc

Rawb 07-17-2006 11:33 PM

[QUOTE=Rowan S]I was gonna buy a Jazz Bass Standard, then modify the **** out of it.. Strip it down, and replace everything on the body, and stick a D Tuner on. do you think i should buy a MIA, for the better quality wood, neck, truss rod etc etc[/QUOTE]
Well, I honestly can't even count on MY own modifications...

Yes, get the American. Have you ever tried one? Man, having a squire as a beginner years ago, and then trying an American at a music shop realy made me realize that every freaking penny is worth it. I'm saving up for one myself.

MIA's allllllll the way. :thumb:

PainKiller8191 07-18-2006 06:33 PM

yeah MIAs are quality....although the first one i played was a lemon so it took me a while to convince myself to try another one

that S-1 switch is really cool and useful

Rowan S 07-19-2006 09:08 AM

Well basically im replacing EVERYTHING on the body, and one of the tuners.. Is it still worth it?/

Just so you know im like..15 next month, so i dont have money right now. Im saving up, and selling my electric guitar and everything for money towards it. Unless i buy a MIM which are still great qaulity as far as im concerned, and then when im older upgrade it or something..

andrewm 07-20-2006 09:34 PM

Nice post. I gotta get me an MIA, my teacher has one and the playability is much better. Oh, and the 60th Anniversery bass is amazing.

Rowan S 07-23-2006 03:43 AM

in that case ill got out and try the MIA and the 60th anniversary.. see what i think. would playability stay the same if i changed the bridge to a BadAss II?

i think im gonna be saving for quite a while :rolleyes:

NavyBass 07-24-2006 09:18 PM

[QUOTE=Rowan S]in that case ill got out and try the MIA and the 60th anniversary.. see what i think. would playability stay the same if i changed the bridge to a BadAss II?

i think im gonna be saving for quite a while :rolleyes:[/QUOTE]

You don't really need to change the bridge. It's a string-through-body bridge. You really won't be gaining anything by changing that bridge to a BAII

Rowan S 07-25-2006 12:41 PM

well iv allready bought it. BAII's give more sustain clarity etc. and look pretty cool aswell i reckon.

Killer Fridge 07-26-2006 06:04 AM

[QUOTE=Rowan S]well iv allready bought it. BAII's give more sustain clarity etc. and look pretty cool aswell i reckon.[/QUOTE]

Apart from the looks, the rest is pretty much un-noticable. If you think you can hear a clear difference, then thats exactly what it is - you think you can hear it. The Placebo Effect *makes wooo00OOO00ooo noises*

NavyBass 07-28-2006 07:43 AM

[QUOTE=Killer Fridge]Apart from the looks, the rest is pretty much un-noticable. If you think you can hear a clear difference, then thats exactly what it is - you think you can hear it. The Placebo Effect *makes wooo00OOO00ooo noises*[/QUOTE]

Not completely true.

On the older Fender basses, the ones without string through body bridges, there will be a difference.

I did an experiment using an Oscilloscope. Everything being the same with the exception of the bridge. The BAII made a big difference in the waveform picture. I used a scope at work which was able to save waveforms and compare them.

But this is an old arguement, but according to electronic measurements, there is no placebo effect, there is a true difference.

Killer Fridge 07-29-2006 06:41 AM

[QUOTE=NavyBass]Not completely true.

On the older Fender basses, the ones without string through body bridges, there will be a difference.

I did an experiment using an Oscilloscope. Everything being the same with the exception of the bridge. The BAII made a big difference in the waveform picture. I used a scope at work which was able to save waveforms and compare them.

But this is an old arguement, but according to electronic measurements, there is no placebo effect, there is a true difference.[/QUOTE]

Crazy....

red n black 08-03-2006 03:08 PM

[QUOTE=NavyBass]Not completely true.

On the older Fender basses, the ones without string through body bridges, there will be a difference.

I did an experiment using an Oscilloscope. Everything being the same with the exception of the bridge. The BAII made a big difference in the waveform picture. I used a scope at work which was able to save waveforms and compare them.

But this is an old arguement, but according to electronic measurements, there is no placebo effect, there is a true difference.[/QUOTE]

How much??? Would I hear a difference???
What kind of difference???

NavyBass 08-03-2006 07:33 PM

[QUOTE=red n black]How much??? Would I hear a difference???
What kind of difference???[/QUOTE]

What I've noticed on the older ones was a crisper, clearer tone with a bit more sustain.

The O-scope experiment pretty much confirmed the crisp, clear tone thing, as the waveform was nicer.

tyguy 12-14-2010 04:51 PM

Mia
 
[QUOTE=NavyBass;8114936]I've posted this before but figured that I should post it here also. Here is a list of items found on the MIA basses that aren't on the CIJ or MIM. MIA Fender Basses have;

Graphite re-enforced necks
Bi-flex 2 way truss rod
Die Cast tuners
Bridge that allows string-thru-body or top load stringing
Better pickups
Better electronics (potentiometers)
Much better fretwork
Better grade of wood for the body and neck
Comes with a hardshell case
Straplocks


This is why the MIA basses cost more than the other Fenders.

Just FYI[/QUOTE] It's made in the U.S.(gotta' pay for that robotic technology).That's why it cost's more.Graphite reinforced necks are tone sucking and so are other than vintage truss rods(bi-flex).The new noiseless pups are horrible and sound nothing like a vintage pup.The MIJ are more vintage accurate eg:MIJ's use north pole magnets(like vintage gits)which US hasn't used in 50 yrs.Wood grade is the same as MIJ as necks and bodies are supplied from custom builders.Fretwork on MIJ's is equal to US and sometimes better.Electronics(pots,switch,jack and wire)are lacking in the MIJ's(the only thing lacking on the MIJ's).Hey,you got a hardshell case(cost you a grand though).The Mexican gits are horrible as the necks are way too small and the frets aren't nearly high enough for a "real"(70's)player.Please learn the Larry Carlton Kid Charlemagne solo and play it for me and I'll give you a thousand dollars (especially finger flappin')shredders.


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