[QUOTE=LedZeppelin173]awesome FA lunch. i was listening to quadrophenia last night on vynal, and its really great. a very detailed FA, nicely done. im actually listening to who's next right now, getting in tune. one of the best albums EVER IMO. :thumb:[/QUOTE]

Quadrophenia on vinyl is heaven on earth. I have an old Japanese Sony label import copy and much prefer it over my CD/Digital copies. The [I]sound[/I] really comes through full force.

have you guys seen their royal albert hall performance from 2001? johns best bass playing ever.

[QUOTE=PinkFreud]have you guys seen their royal albert hall performance from 2001? johns best bass playing ever.[/QUOTE]

I have that on DVD. It's a good show. And the CD has some bonus tracks. The crowd was a bit lackluster, but perhaps that's because of the event being at RAH and for charity and all. And of course the guest performers. I especially like Paul Wellers bit and Eddie Vedder on Let's See Action. Also Noel Gallagher on guitar for Won't Get Fooled Again. Bryan Adams singing Behind Blue Eyes has me raising my brow a bit, though. And Vedder sounds tight on I'm One. Townshends solo bit is a real highlight for me.

Also check out Live in Boston if you haven't already. No Entwhistle, but Pete does his best to make up for the loss as he plays really aggressively. And brother Simon does an admirable job of filling the space left by John with his rythmn guitar playing. It's a different Who, but still The Who in all thier explosiveness. And Pino Paladino does a servicable enough job on bass.

Anyone have word on a release date for The Who2 album? Are they recording yet? I'm looking forward to it.

I know they are in the studio, don't know an official date yet though.

The Who are the second greatest band of all time behind the Beatles. I love them, and Keith Moon is the greatest drummer ever.

[QUOTE=brittallica]and if you want evidence of this look at the dvds they both performed at the same venues [woodstock isle of wight] these are avaiable and you can see fot yourself

Great band never the less[/QUOTE]
Led Zeppelin didn't perform at either of those.

Awesome man. I read all of it. Should have talked bout their gig at Woodstock more. Didn't they gone on before Jimi Hendrix and played best set ever trying to outdo him? Or so ive heard

[QUOTE=Macdaddy]Awesome man. I read all of it. Should have talked bout their gig at Woodstock more. Didn't they gone on before Jimi Hendrix and played best set ever trying to outdo him? Or so ive heard[/QUOTE]

That was actually at the Monterey Pop Festival. Jimi had been burning his guitar from time to time and as the story goes Pete heard rumor that he also planned to smash it at the festival. So apparently Pete confronted him backstage about stealing The Who's act and Jimi told him where to get off. Pete was a huge Jimi fan at the time and was hurt enough by this to lead the band in a very aggressive set out of anger and insult. Jimi came on and burned his guitar, but apparently did not smash it, as The Who had left the stage in shambles earlier and Jimi knew he couldn't match that display. Although Jimi did in future performances take to shoving his guitar neck through his amp screens and doing a bit of smashing up himself.

If you want to know a bit more about Woodstock and The Who, I posted an excerpt from a book about it above.

[QUOTE=brittallica]okay great work but come on people moon was a fantastic drummer rog and dalt were
good but face it pete is a average guitarist and Hendrix always upstaged the who
as far as them being the best band ever forget about it its the beatles or Led zeppelin
page was better than pete bonham was better then moon and robert well nvm but you get hte point They were a very good band but not the best[/QUOTE]
Pete was not an average guitarist, he was incredibly creative, i dont think your averge joe can innovate and write songs as good as his.

Another thing, you cant go around labeling "best bands ever" but the who where very innovative and influential, more than zeppelin, maybe not the beatles.

Bonham was in no way better than moon, bonham is highly overrated, he will never compare to moon's thundering, dinamic drumming

[QUOTE]Originally posted by [B]JohnXDoe[/B]
[I]The Who were playing Pinball Wizard when Abbie Hoffman, the Yippie provocateur, took the stage and seized a microphone. Hoffman was crazed on LSD and had decided that he must make a speech protesting the ten year sentence of his crony, the White Panther Party leader John Sinclair, for charges of possessing two joints of marijuana. "I think this is a pile of **** while John Sinclair rots in prison," Hoffman shouted into the microphone.

That was as far as he got. Townshend put one of his Dr. Marten boots squarely into Hoffman's ***, swatted him with his Gibson SG and, as the Yippie fell into the photographers pit, played on. Hoffman screamed unheard curses into the gale of the music, then ran over a hill and out of sight, clear back to Manhattan. Townshend later described kicking Abbie's *** as "the most political thing I ever did."[/I][/QUOTE]

But Townshend did later say that he agreed with Hoffman. He was just pissed at being interrupted.

great work lunch. brilliant. it helps that the who are my favourite band.

good work lunch the who are excellent and its good that some people are finally agreeing with the masses!!!

p.s. baba 'o riley = best who song ever!

Baba O Riley Live off of The Kids Are Alright.....gives you goosebumps.

[QUOTE=Quagmire 222]Baba O Riley Live off of The Kids Are Alright.....gives you goosebumps.[/QUOTE]

I tihnk that's the best live version I've ever heard. Although I'm sure thier are some good bootlegs out there. Thier is also a great version on the benefit album "Concerts for the People of Kampuchea" (hope I spelled that right). The Who have four songs on the album and I think perhaps more on a later edition of it.

Speaking of bootlegs, is thier anyone here who has any bootlegs or knowledge of where to get some good ones of the band in concert? I would think with all the shows they've done over the years thier must be some worthy ones circulating.

Daltrey's scream on Won't Get Fooled Again- best moment in music ever. In fact Won't Get Fooled Again on The Kids Are Alright is just ****ing amazing.

the who kick ***

[QUOTE=Uberman]But Townshend did later say that he agreed with Hoffman. He was just pissed at being interrupted.[/QUOTE]

Yeah. Pete has always been a guy of great conscience. I think that's one of the main things that attracts me to his songwriting. I do remember hearing an archived interview with him where he did express regret at handling that situation the way he did, and said he was sorry for it.

But Abbie deserved it nonetheless :smash:

I was watching an interview of Townshend on the Isle of Wright Dvd, and he was says that he always wanted out of the band. If he wanted out he should have just left and broken up the band after Moon died, atleast they would have gone out with a bang instead of fading away like they did.

No one has posted here in the past couple of days and I would hate to see this thread die. So I'm posting another exerpt from the Dave Marsh Who biography "Before I Get Old'. I hope whoever comes by enjoys it and I would like to say I disagree with the very first sentence of this passage, as I think Quadrophenia is the greatest rock album ever. So here goes:


Quadrophenia is not a great rock album (though it has great moments). But it is a marvavelous piece of social criticism, trying to place the public and private history of the 1960's into a context from which something more productive can be built. Townshend understood the sixties, even as they were going on, as both a Golden Decade and a Giant Drag. On Quadrophenia he investigates failure without denying it's success, a perspective that had eluded other scholors of the period.

The Rolling Stones could avoid these issues, because ambiguity and irony were there stock and trade; The Beatles didn't have to deal with them because The Beatles had broken up; Bob Dylan retreated from such subjects by indulgiing himself in pastorialism and domesticity, which implied that everything had been a hoax; The Kinks were never engaged in a way that allowed them to make broad comments, and anyway, Ray Davies was nostalgic from the start. There was nothing the least bit incongruous to him about looking over ones shoulder at the pop past.

But The Who were moralists. From the very beginning, they assumed the duty of describing what was right and wrong with the world that rock inhabited and helped create. That's what Townshend meant when he said of Quadrophenia, "It could of been written in a simple song like My Generation, [I]if[/I] I could still write a song like My generation in 1973". In a way, Quadrophenia is that song ---- or proof that no one could write it, since the topics Townshend wanted to write about were now too diffuse, complex and contradictory to allow moralistic resolutions. But nothing could stop him from trying.

"There's an incredible set of paradoxes surrounding the whole generation," Pete said. "At one moment they can go on a Ban the Bomb march, and the next moment they're pouring LSD into thier heads. We'd stood onstage and watched it go past in the audience. It's an observation made from the stage, as if we were in a cage. You're being looked at, but you're also in the position of observation".

"However far down we go as individuals," Townshend wrote of Quadrophenia, "there will always be rent to pay, so always an audience. When there's an audience, there's salvation. Mixed up in Quadrophenia is a study of the devine desperation that is at the root of every punks scream for blood and vengeance".


[B]What have I seen, where have I been? Nothing is planned by the sea and the sand - PT[/B]

[QUOTE=White_heat]Pete was not an average guitarist, he was incredibly creative, i dont think your averge joe can innovate and write songs as good as his.

Another thing, you cant go around labeling "best bands ever" but the who where very innovative and influential, more than zeppelin, maybe not the beatles.

Bonham was in no way better than moon, bonham is highly overrated, he will never compare to moon's thundering, dinamic drumming[/QUOTE]

I totally agree. I really like Pete's guitar playing, he's one of my favorites

I was just having a listen to one of Pete's early 80's solo albums and it occured to me how brillant these albums are. As it always does. For me these albums, although not Who albums, seal The Who's greatness in Rock history. Far superior to The Who's final two albums, these albums from [I]the man[/I] himself and released at around the same general time as Face Dances and It's Hard, are what The Who should of and could of been at the time. If you are unfamiliar with them they are Empty Glass and All The Best Cowboys Have Chinese Eyes, respectively. If you want to check out some tracks I have compiled a list of suggested tracks to download, as follows:

From Empty Glass:

Rough Boys
A Little Is Enough
Let My Love Open The Door
Jools And Jim
Empty Glass
Cat's In The Cup Board
Gonna Get 'YA

From All The Best Cowboys Have Chinene Eyes:

Stop Hurting People
The Sea Rufuses No River
Face Dances Part Two
Exquisitly Bored
Stardom In Acton
Slit Skirts
Somebody Saved Me

Also worth mentioning is his 1985 solo album White City. It's very good. Suggested tracks:

Give Blood
Brillant Blues
White City Fighting
Hiding Out
Secondhand Love

These songs would of been awesome in the hands of The Who and it was an opportunity missed, as they rejected some and Townshend held back others. They certainly would of done wonders for Face Dances and It's Hard. Although I am fond of Face Dances as it is. Enjoy.


[B]I asked Bobby Dylan/ I asked The Beatles/I asked Timothy Leary/But he couldn't tell me either. - PT from The Seeker[/B]

The Who are great, especially magic bus and Pinball wizard but MY GENERATION is best

As a huge Who fan (my name gives it away), I'm very excited about this thread. Great job!

[QUOTE=Drjimmy]As a huge Who fan (my name gives it away), I'm very excited about this thread. Great job![/QUOTE]

Great. Because this thread can use some support. I would like to see this thread survive until the Who2 album is released. That's why I post book excerpts and recommendations from time to time to keep it circulating. Some other bands have some real stong threads on these boards, and I would like to see this one keep up for both old and new fans alike. I didn't create the thread, Lunch did with his incredible F.A. And that read alone is worth keeping this thread alive and well for. So welcome to The Who thread and feel free to visit and post your thoughts concerning the band whenever the mood strikes you.

The quote you posted from The Seeker previously is one I use as an away message on AIM often. I really like it.

Who threads in the past usually consist of a page or two or people saying they love them, and then the thread dies. I wanted to hopefully start a bit of a longer lasting one by doing an F.A.

Also right now, this thread is stickied so it will be at the top of the boards. But in a few days a new F.A. will be up, so this one will no longer be stickied.

Out here in the fields... I fight for my meals...

Great stuff.

[QUOTE=BassMasterMike88]you left out the thing about Townshends "windmill" guitar playing style but thats pretty trival.[/QUOTE]
I mentioned it in the beginning, but never went into any detail about it.
[QUOTE]Should have talked bout their gig at Woodstock more[/QUOTE]
They had a pretty disappointing show at Woodstock, except for the "See Me, Feel Me" climax.
[QUOTE=mick7]p.s. baba 'o riley = best who song ever![/QUOTE]
One part of it is absolutely amazing to me still, after they break for Townshend's short solo vocal part ("Don't cry..."). Moon comes back in and then when they hit the next chord is fantastic. I wouldn't call it their best though.

I don't really like the Who's music after Keith Moon died. As I am a drummer.

Even the most dedicated Who fans, like me don't like a lot of The Who's stuff after Moon died. Eminence Front is great though.

[QUOTE=ledpoisoning27]I don't really like the Who's music after Keith Moon died. As I am a drummer.[/QUOTE]

Yup. That did change things. Although who knows if he would of made that big a difference to The Who any longer even if he had lived? His drumming on Who Are You is subpar for him, and Pete was already starting to drift. Guess we will never know for sure what impact he could of continued having. I'm hoping for the best from Who2. Even if it can't be real original anymore. And Zak Starkey behind the kit serves me just fine. But then again, I'm not a drummer.