[QUOTE=Ganondorf]Fat Mike is by no means an amazing bass player, but he is very good in regards to the Pop-Punk genre, which dosen't really call for mind boggling techincal bass work, just solid, catchy lines with a 'bounce' to them.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, that's what I said, maybe exagerating a little bit.

He's not awesome but I can't think of many more talented pop-punk bassists.

The Offspring have some really cool basslines. I'm not sure if Greg K is that talented, but he plays some cool stuff.

Well when I said more talented, I meant more talented than Fat Mike.

Greg K isn't more talented than Fat Mike but he plays some cool stuff. Specially on their S-T. Kill the president is so cool to play.

Fat Mike is obviosuly a good bassist. The pop-punk genre does not necesserily require amazing basslines but he's managed to fit a few in. The Decline is brilliant, and when you look at stuff like Shower Days on one of NOFX's earliest releases you realise that if he could write that at that age, he will have improved a lot over the years.

His current bass skills can be heard in songs like Idiots are Taking over on WOE. And don't forget he also writes some great guitar stuff

[QUOTE=albert_bass]So Mean people suck, The Decline, The Idiotd are Taking over, Flossing A dead horse, 180 degrees, We threw gas on the fire..., Shower days, The death of john smith to name some songs are such horrible bass lines. Yeah, he has no talent at all...[/QUOTE]

You're forgetting about Eben from Saves the day and Dan from Alkaline trio. These guys are talent in my opinion not Fat Mike.

Fat Mike blows Dan away.

[QUOTE=cbmartinez]Fat Mike blows Dan away.[/QUOTE]

123.

Very away...

Those were only 2 and I don't know about saves the day's bassist but Fat Mike's best lines are way better than Dan's best lines

Eben D'Amico is pretty incredible, I'd have to put some more thought into it before I said Fat Mike was better.

Ok, I don't know about him. But notice I said Fat Mike was easily in the top ten of pop-punk bassists. This guy told me just one better pop-punk bassist, proving 1. He has no idea about pop-punk bassists because I can name at least 4 better bassists than Fat Mike. 2. He hasn't heard or noticed the bass lines in some NOFX songs because he would have noticed that Mike is way better than Dan Andriano. 3. He has no idea of what is a talented line because best thing I've seen in Dan Andriano is some bass chords and some little fills while Fat Mike can write bass solo's, amazing chord lines with strange chords, lines with not only root notes, 5ths and octaves, I could go on like forever...

Yeah Dan has some nice fills for pop-punk but that it's to be honest.

I'm not sure if this guy's been mentioned but Karl Alvarez of ALL and the Descendents is an excellent bassist

No, I totally agree with you. I think Fat Mike is very talented. In addition to playing some amazing lines, he sings while playing them which is very hard.

Probably more talented or equally talented bassists I can think of (in pop-punk or similar):

Hunter (AFI)
Jesse (Lagwagon)
Matt Freeman obviously
Tomek (Satanic Surfers)
Roger (LTJ)
Chris #2 (Anti-flag)
Let's say the guy from saves the day
Alvarez from Descendents

And some of these I have to think about it to say it...

roger is a better bassist than comes across, although LTJ do have some good lines

[QUOTE=Twat_Out_Of_Hell]roger is a better bassist than comes across, although LTJ do have some good lines[/QUOTE]

Yeah, I used to be in love with LTJ because of the bass lines...Ahhh those crazy times...

The bass player from The Used has some good bass lines.

[QUOTE=cr1nge]Are you deaf? or are you just that bad at bass that you actually think Fat Mike is good? because his stuff is so simple it's laughable.[/QUOTE]
ya you make up somthing like "idots are taking over"
or even play it

[QUOTE=sweetbass]everyone in greenday[/QUOTE]
:lol: 123

Tre and Mike used to be quite the musicians.

[QUOTE=vote me]ya you make up somthing like "idots are taking over"
or even play it[/QUOTE]

I guess... I don't know what you're even talking about.

And anway, Dan Andriano used to be a great bass player. His basslines have gone downhill because he is getting older but can anyone say Goodbye Forever? because that bassline owns.

Shut up. No one agrees with you.

We're saying he's good. But get over it, Fat Mike is better.

[QUOTE=albert_bass]Shut up. No one agrees with you.

We're saying he's good. But get over it, Fat Mike is better.[/QUOTE]

It's good to know that all of you have opinions but I think Dan is much better.

Yeah, ok but the original point of the discussion was that you said he sucked at bass. I respect your opinion about Dan being better although from an objective point of view he isn't more talented, but saying Fat Mike sucks at bass is absolutely wrong.

I just wanted you to recognize that, but seeing you won't I don't care anymore.

[QUOTE=cbmartinez]Tre and Mike used to be quite the musicians.[/QUOTE]

True, Mike Dirnt is talented and about Tre I don't really know about drums but I've heard he's pretty good.

tre has easy beats but hes not bad considering how green day is...

[QUOTE=cbmartinez]Nah, Shavo has really improved. Especially on the new album.[/QUOTE]
thats cause daron wrote the basslines, and i think he played em on the new album too.

[QUOTE=cr1nge]You're forgetting about Eben from Saves the day and Dan from Alkaline trio. These guys are talent in my opinion not Fat Mike.[/QUOTE]
also jon from Rufio

and les claypool...bitches

I would say that Jerry Only (Misfits) isnt much good but i dont really think its the issue. Not every bassist has to go out and chop Victor Wooten to be considered a good bassist. And since Hoppus quite often acknowleges that he needs bass lessons shows that he doesnt give a **** nearly as much as some of you guys do. But whatever.

i think only was one of the guys who wanted to keep punk rock basic though, wasnt he? i bet he could be amazing if he played another style and he tried to come up with creative stuff...

The bass line to "She" is awesome. Everything else does pretty much suck.

^therefore either someone else wrote She for him, or he has some talent in him