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sink sink 02-28-2005 10:02 PM

I don't know a lot about classical, but I listen to the classical radio station around here (one is 24 hours a day, and PBS plays classical in the evening.) I've been listening to the 1st movement of Tchaikovsky's Serenade in C Major and it makes my little heart melt. I'll be looking at this thread and try to download some of what you guys suggest.

Oh, and does anyone have any opinions on the French horn? One of my high school band's instuctors said it is "God's instrument," and certainly think it is one of them. ;)

Det_Nosnip 03-01-2005 03:48 AM

[QUOTE=Iai]I just got Holst's The Planets, as performed by the London Symphony Orchestra. Not quite as good as I'd been led to believe, but still pretty good.[/QUOTE]

Mars kicks total ***, but the rest of it is pretty standard IMO.

Walrus Gumboot 03-01-2005 03:31 PM

Does anyne know Pachelbel's Canon? Probably. I was wondering if there is anything else by that composer out there

PianoDan 03-02-2005 07:10 AM

[QUOTE=sink sink]I don't know a lot about classical, but I listen to the classical radio station around here (one is 24 hours a day, and PBS plays classical in the evening.) I've been listening to the 1st movement of Tchaikovsky's Serenade in C Major and it makes my little heart melt. I'll be looking at this thread and try to download some of what you guys suggest.[/QUOTE]
Yes, Serenade in C is beautiful indeed. I know what you mean about the first movement too. You've got me into it now.:)

[QUOTE=sink sink]Oh, and does anyone have any opinions on the French horn? One of my high school band's instuctors said it is "God's instrument," and certainly think it is one of them. ;)[/QUOTE]
I have no real opinion on French horn but I would certainly not say it's "God's instrument" - that's the piano. I read somewhere (I think it was actually the 1984 Guiness Book of Records) that the French Horn is considered the most difficult musical instrument to play. (Just for the record I think it was the ukelele that was considered the easiest.)

[QUOTE=Walrus Gumboot]Does anyne know Pachelbel's Canon? Probably. I was wondering if there is anything else by that composer out there[/QUOTE]
If there's one piece of music that everybody knows it's Pachelbel's Canon in D. I did a brief and thoroughless search on the internet and found nothing to suggest he wrote anything other than his Canon in D. In my Music Dictionary, I read this:

[QUOTE=Oxford Concise Dictionary of Music]...His comps. influenced Bach. Works incl. [i]Hexachordum Apollinis[/i] (1699), 6 sets of airs and variations for hpd.; 78 chorale preludes (1693), incl. [i]Ein' feste Burg, Nun komm der Heiden Heiland, Vom Himmel hoch[/i], etc.; [i]Aria Sebaldina,[/i] variations in F minor for hpd.; [i]Canon and Gigue[/i] in D for 3 vns. and continuo; [i]Chaconne and 13 variations[/i] for hpd., etc. His church music, for long disregarded, has been highly revalued, particularly his sacred concertos and his 13 settings of the [i]Magnificat[/i].[/QUOTE]
That's as much information as I can find on him right now. It's not all that useful really, but at least we know that he did right a fair bit of other stuff which is probably going around somewhere or other out there.

Iai 03-02-2005 02:12 PM

And, to a lesser extent, the rest of his Anaklasis album.

Xenakis's Metastatis is also worthy of at least one hearing.

Edit: I'm a moron. The album is not called Anaklasis - that's one of his pieces. It's called Matrix 5.

the2stranger 03-04-2005 08:47 AM

does any one oboe music?
I have a cd with al sorts of pieces from a lot of (unknown) composers for oboe and string arragements

very soothing to the ear :)

TheBlackAcidChildren 03-04-2005 05:00 PM

[QUOTE=the2stranger]does any one oboe music?
I have a cd with al sorts of pieces from a lot of (unknown) composers for oboe and string arragements

very soothing to the ear :)[/QUOTE]
Last year our composition task for A-level music was to compose a piece for an oboe quartet - oboe, violin, viola, cello (not four oboes, as some people seem to conclude). I did a 5/4 jazz piece :lol: it went down quite well. I also composed another piece for reed trio - oboe, bassoon and clarinet. As for actual composers, I can't recommend any - we listened to a few to get us started on the composition but I can't remember who they were.

My main love, of all the styles of classical music, has to be church music. I love masses, especially Palestrina's Missa Papae Marcelli. I also really enjoy Mozart's "Requiem" mass and recently bought Vaughan-Williams' Mass in G minor. The harmonic progression at the end of the Agnus Dei is superb, it brings a smile to my face every time I hear it.

I could talk more but my parents are about to shut down the internet connection for the night :rolleyes:

PianoDan 03-05-2005 08:01 AM

Well I just got back from Bendigo, where I attended a concert by the Cologne New Philharmonic Chamber Orchestra from Germany. There were six musicians (I think there were three violins, a viola, a cello, and one double bass) plus an oboeist. They played a number of pieces (I can't remember all of them) which included the following:

Vivaldi - Concerto Amoroso, and "Summer" from Four Seasons.

Mozart's Salzburg Symphony No. 2. Mozart's Chamber Music is unparalleled and this is a great little Symphony.

Concerto for Oboe and Orchestra in D Minor (not sure of the composer - my parents brought home the program but I don't know where they put it).

J. S. Bach - Concerto for Violin, Oboe and Orchestra in D Minor.

Tchaikovski - Nocturne for Violincello and Orchestra. It was a minor-key piece that was just heart-wrenching.

A beautiful number by a composer with an Italian-sounding name that I just can't think of - the piece was Adagio for Violin and Orchestra. Gorgeous piece.

Pachelbel – Canon in D. They played this as an encore, which was great, because they'd advertised to play it and at the end of the program they hadn't done it. A friend of mine came almost specifically for this piece and was very disappointed when they walked off having not played it - but they came back on and did it so beautifully. Tears were welling in my eyes.

They then had two more encores after that, both violin duets, both very virtuosic. I'm not sure who the composers were but one of them sounded not unlike Paganini - just to give an idea of what it sounded like anyway.

It was a fantastic evening, almost dampened - by the fact that it was played in a Catholic Church and the "stage" was ground level, the pews just as any normal church, perfectly parallel going all the way back down the narrow corridor (I don't know church terminology). We could barely see a thing at first, but luckily found a spot to the side where we could see quite well. Another slight drawback was the poor acoustics which made it sound slightly muffled. But this was indeed a very slight drawback and really didn't matter.

So to the2stranger: I now can say that I have seen oboe music live and definitely like it. The Bach Concerto and the other one were both lovely pieces. I'll try and find the name of the other piece tomorrow.

It was indeed the loveliest night I've had in a long time.:)

I Like Bass 03-06-2005 12:12 AM

Hey everyone tell me if this sounds cool to you -

I was listening to Moonlight Sonata and i noticed a part in the song which was almost identical to a part in Metallicas "the call or ktulu' . i was amazed at how cool it sounded too. Has anyone else heard anything like this in any other cases? if so please share.

Iai 03-06-2005 10:54 AM

Plenty of rock songs have taken inspiration and even stolen phrases from the more famous Beethoven pieces. Bright Eye's Road To Joy is the most obvious, recent example. But John Lennon once wrote a song based entirely unpon inverted versions of the chords from Moonlight Sonata. I forget which one.

Edit: Not to mention, most metal ballads take their cues from Romantic music. The two forms have more in common than you might imagine.

PianoDan 03-06-2005 06:44 PM

I've also been told that on the Hullabaloo soundtrack, one of Muse's songs from Origin of Symmetry (I can't remember which) has some of Rachmaninov's 2nd Piano Concerto worked in there. On the same soundtrack, he works in Rach's Prelude in C#minor.

It's very common to have classical themes in rock music.

I have the programme from the Chamber Orchestra the other night (for those who read my previous post) -

the other Oboe Concerto was by Alessandro Marcello;

They didn't do "Concerto Amoroso" by Vivaldi, rather Sinfonia No. 3 in G major;

And the Adagio for Violin and Orchestra was written by T. Albinoni - and I'm dying to get a copy of it somewhere, it was just beautiful.

dahlgren 03-07-2005 02:56 AM

[QUOTE=PianoDan]Thanks for the site. :thumb:

How much piano do you play? Is violin your primary instrument? I love Mozart and I quite like Telemann as well. I don't think I have Mozart's 29th Symphony in A. I'll check. No, I don't have that one.

Currently I'm listening to Symphony No. 4 in F minor by Tchaikovsky. It's quite good. Very good in fact. It's very romantic, very emotional and powerful.[/QUOTE]

My primary instrument is violin, I´ve got a scolarship and I play the first vilolin in a symphony orchestra here in Sweden. As well, I play some solo violin and a play some chamber music with my trio.

I've never taken any piano-lessons, But my mother played the piano when she was young, so we have a lot of notes at home. So I learned to play the piano by myself. It takes some time, but right now I'm playing Beethoven's Moonlight Sonata.

Do you play the piano? Because in that case, If you would like to, I would really appreciate some response on the piano sonatas I'm writing on right now.

PianoDan 03-07-2005 03:16 AM

[QUOTE=dahlgren]My primary instrument is violin, I´ve got a scolarship and I play the first vilolin in a symphony orchestra here in Sweden. As well, I play some solo violin and a play some chamber music with my trio.

I've never taken any piano-lessons, But my mother played the piano when she was young, so we have a lot of notes at home. So I learned to play the piano by myself. It takes some time, but right now I'm playing Beethoven's Moonlight Sonata.[/QUOTE]
Nice, and nice. I love seeing the violin played well.

[QUOTE=dahlgren]Do you play the piano? Because in that case, If you would like to, I would really appreciate some response on the piano sonatas I'm writing on right now.[/QUOTE]
I do play the piano and would be very interested to see your work.

dahlgren 03-07-2005 04:55 AM

[QUOTE=PianoDan]I do play the piano and would be very interested to see your work.[/QUOTE]

I'm very thankful for that. They are not finished yet, but I will contact you when they are.

PianoDan 03-10-2005 08:14 PM

Having heard much about it, mainly from this forum actually, I am finally hearing Holst's "Planets" for the first time. Well actually, only Jupiter. It's on a friend's CD which is a compilation of single movements from different pieces by different composers... but anyway, it sounds quite good. I would like to hear the rest of the Planets.

Also on this same CD is "Also Sprach Zarathustra Op. 30" by Richard Strauss. It's a very very famous piece of music that I'm sure we all know from somewhere, but I had no idea what it was called or who wrote it. I would not have guessed Strauss that's for sure.

[QUOTE=dahlgren]I'm very thankful for that. They are not finished yet, but I will contact you when they are.[/QUOTE]
Surely. I look forward to it.

what 03-28-2005 05:59 PM

[url]http://s42.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1LEO5C4C5VRJH2DKJ7K9DWQLZV[/url]

You people should listen to this, it's an orchestra of Russian folk instruments playing Sibelius' Valse Triste... owns every other symphonic orchestra I've heard playing this.

Det_Nosnip 03-29-2005 12:44 AM

I've been hooked on Bach's "Art of the Fugue" lately. I'm not especially partial to the Harpsichord as an instrument, but the music is great! Counterpoints are one of my favorite musical concepts...when well done, they evoke alot of emotion for me. It's a shame that all of that brilliance was done on such a...tame instrument. It'd be interesting to hear those same ideas applied to a full orchestra...can anyone think of any famous Bach Symphonys?

agcolonialman 03-31-2005 01:53 AM

J.P.Sousa Marches
 
Would ANY BODY have a score or piccolo/flute sheet music for ANY of J.P.Sousa's Marches?. Im trying to get as many as possible. THanx :thumb:

agcolonialman 04-03-2005 04:05 AM

Does ne1?
 
[QUOTE=agcolonialman]Would ANY BODY have a score or piccolo/flute sheet music for ANY of J.P.Sousa's Marches?. Im trying to get as many as possible. THanx :thumb:[/QUOTE]Would anyone hav the sheet music or score?

PianoDan 04-03-2005 06:42 AM

[QUOTE=Det_Nosnip]I've been hooked on Bach's "Art of the Fugue" lately. I'm not especially partial to the Harpsichord as an instrument, but the music is great! Counterpoints are one of my favorite musical concepts...when well done, they evoke alot of emotion for me. It's a shame that all of that brilliance was done on such a...tame instrument. It'd be interesting to hear those same ideas applied to a full orchestra...can anyone think of any famous Bach Symphonys?[/QUOTE]
The Brandenburg Concertos.

PianoDan 04-03-2005 06:44 AM

[QUOTE=agcolonialman]Would anyone hav the sheet music or score?[/QUOTE]
the only thing I can suggest trying would be going to [url]http://www.sheetmusicarchive.net[/url]. If that doesn't work, then ask at your local music store, and if they don't have it ask if they can order it in. That's what you do when you want sheet music.

PianoDan 04-15-2005 09:22 AM

*bump*

So I've been really into chamber music lately. The other day I listened to Haydn's "Emperor" quartet and it's absolutely gorgeous. I've also listened to Schubert's "Trout" and "Death and the Maiden" piano quintets, two more absolute beauties.

There's so much really nice chamber music written - Schubert tended to be really good at it. Mozart was obviously a genius at it. I think I posted about this previously but I recently saw a Chamber Orchestra from Germany perform. They performed one of Mozart's "Salzburg" Symphonies (his first I believe), plus a couple of oboe concertos (one by J. S. Bach), and one of the classics and one of my favourites, Palchalbel's Canon in D.

PianoDan 06-01-2005 09:48 PM

I'm bumping this thread because it's got a lot more interesting stuff in it than the thread "classical" thread made today.

For anyone who's getting into classical music, I highly recommend [URL=http://www.classicalarchives.com/]The Classical Music Archives[/URL]. It has live recordings from all major composers and most other composers of classical, baroque, romantic, and impressionist music, as well as some 20th Century music. It also has hundreds more midi recordings, which aren't good to listen to, but give you the idea of how a piece sounds.

It's a great site and well worth bookmarking. You can only play five pieces a day unless you register, but even that's a fair listen each day.

Reaganista 06-01-2005 10:07 PM

Vesti la Guibba is one of my favorite songs ever.

Glitterati 06-01-2005 10:22 PM

Stravinsky's [I]The Rite Of Spring [/I] is one of my favorites.

what 06-02-2005 04:53 AM

that thing is just crazy... and phenomenal, his Firebird suite is also great

PianoDan 06-03-2005 01:36 AM

[QUOTE=Canadian_Guy]Stravinsky's [I]The Rite Of Spring [/I] is one of my favorites.[/QUOTE]
Stravinsky is one composer I've heard mentioned lots but not heard much of. He's now on my high priority list of artists to listen to.

[QUOTE=The Tway]Vesti la Guibba is one of my favorite songs ever.[/QUOTE]
Who wrote Vesti la Guibba?

Grant 06-04-2005 12:49 PM

Upload some Stravinsky.

Ad Absurdum 06-04-2005 01:03 PM

[QUOTE=Passion,Grace and Fire]Upload some Stravinsky.[/QUOTE]

The Rite of Spring
[url]http://s38.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1IRNRFSRK27HP2OXNAOF9CBA5C[/url]

Samuel 06-04-2005 04:48 PM

What's up? I never realized we had this going, very cool.

Anyway, I enjoy the "Classical" stuff that I listen too a lot, but I am certainly not very well versed in the different eras. Some favourites of mine include Stravinsky, Schoenberg, Liszt, Handel, and Vivaldi.

I was wondering if anyone could point me in the direction of some stuff that I should check out, or even better, some sort of list of "must have" peices/recordings? I'm going into a Bachelors of Music program for Jazz Guitar next Fall, and I would like to be able to keep up with my peers in the non-Jazz performance areas, or at least be able to wing it. And, of course, I love the stuff.


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