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LewsTherin 04-13-2005 05:54 PM

[QUOTE=supernaut_1]ah no way man, .71 is where it's at.:cool:[/QUOTE]

i have trouble playing with picks that thin even on guitar....

i guess im just a heavy pick sorta guy.

The JoZ 04-13-2005 08:28 PM

[QUOTE=Salvation]He writes the guitar and bass riffs so he still does a large amount of Slipknot work. But a few break-outs would be nice.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, I read how involved he was in the writing process in that interview too...all this time I thought he just sat back and rooted around.

I *think* he's playing the main line in Danger, Keep Away...but I'm not really certain. It sounds too warm to be a guitar...

Salvation 04-13-2005 09:47 PM

[QUOTE=The JoZ]Yeah, I read how involved he was in the writing process in that interview too...all this time I thought he just sat back and rooted around.

I *think* he's playing the main line in Danger, Keep Away...but I'm not really certain. It sounds too warm to be a guitar...[/QUOTE]
He plays one of the guitars in Vermillion part2. (since there is no bass)

The JoZ 04-13-2005 10:20 PM

[QUOTE=Salvation]He plays one of the guitars in Vermillion part2. (since there is no bass)[/QUOTE]

Now that I did not know.

Where'd you find that out from?

Salvation 04-14-2005 12:09 AM

[QUOTE=The JoZ]Now that I did not know.

Where'd you find that out from?[/QUOTE]
I preety sure it's him, you can get a vid off the net of him and Jim Root practicing. Jim with the acoustic and Paul with the left handed electric.

Romanticide 04-23-2005 01:35 AM

great great article. :thumb:

mikethecoug 04-24-2005 07:59 AM

great guide btw, i find using a pick gets a great tone. where bouts do you pluck? i pluck right at the end, kinda like in between the pickups on my bass. look:

[img]http://img201.echo.cx/img201/2225/bass1yp.jpg[/img]

metalbitch 04-27-2005 06:17 AM

I think this was a great lesson for all bassists! thanx for the help. i have always played bass with a pick and i find it easier. most bassists that i have spoken to tell me that i must be a crap bassist cos i play with a pick? i still cant get the hang of picking up and down though :-(

MrSigma 04-27-2005 10:57 AM

Another good pick bassist is Jason Newsted.

Good Guide :thumb:

mikethecoug 04-27-2005 12:11 PM

[QUOTE=metalbitch]I think this was a great lesson for all bassists! thanx for the help. i have always played bass with a pick and i find it easier. most bassists that i have spoken to tell me that i must be a crap bassist cos i play with a pick? i still cant get the hang of picking up and down though :-([/QUOTE]

Mike Dirnt is a great pick bassist, tell the people who tell you are crap to shut up, because it doesnt make u any less of a bassist. Just try some green day songs, for example maybe jesus of suburbia to practice up and downstrokes, you'll pick it up soon. :D

Frostie 04-28-2005 10:17 AM

Pictures don't seem to work :( Got any working ones?

baggagebassman 04-28-2005 10:24 AM

Pretty good. You might have mentioned that Anthony Jackson used a pick some.

good rats 05-01-2005 06:20 AM

The pictures don't work Joz.

Forest_Fire 05-03-2005 06:28 PM

Good article.

I have a semi-stupid question though. I play with a pick, and I mostly play punk and ska. I can usually only play for about 10 minutes or so before my wrist starts to hurt and I have to stop playing temporarily. This sort of worries me because I can write good songs, but then I can't follow through and play them, and I don't think I could make it through an entire gig. Are there any excercises or anything I can do to help this?

The JoZ 05-05-2005 07:45 PM

[QUOTE=Ska_Pirate]Good article.

I have a semi-stupid question though. I play with a pick, and I mostly play punk and ska. I can usually only play for about 10 minutes or so before my wrist starts to hurt and I have to stop playing temporarily. This sort of worries me because I can write good songs, but then I can't follow through and play them, and I don't think I could make it through an entire gig. Are there any excercises or anything I can do to help this?[/QUOTE]

I'm not sure I can really say, because I don't really know how you're picking exactly...you could be doing it wrong and/or putting in too much effort, if that makes sense.

Either way, if you're not used to constantly moving a muscle, it's going to hurt when you overextend it. Practicing to build up stamina is a good way to combat this.

I will fix my picture links in just a second :cool:

wicked_child 05-14-2005 10:41 PM

[QUOTE=mikethecoug]great guide btw, i find using a pick gets a great tone. where bouts do you pluck? i pluck right at the end, kinda like in between the pickups on my bass. look:

[img]http://img201.echo.cx/img201/2225/bass1yp.jpg[/img][/QUOTE]

i pluck above the Pbass-pickup.

xfreakofnaturex 07-04-2005 12:37 PM

[QUOTE=The JoZ]I mean, basically, you don't want a pick that bends when being used on bass strings.[/QUOTE]

I ONLY want picks that bend, I find rigid picks so d@mn clumsy. I just can't play ups and downs with rigid picks without losing the rythm.

and I play right next to the bridge

Tryxx 07-04-2005 12:54 PM

I actually prefer light picks too... I love that light sweeping tone that I can get.

wicked_child 07-06-2005 09:01 PM

hard picks for me.

Oz Rembrandt 07-20-2005 08:14 AM

[QUOTE=xfreakofnaturex]I ONLY want picks that bend, I find rigid picks so d@mn clumsy. I just can't play ups and downs with rigid picks without losing the rythm.

and I play right next to the bridge[/QUOTE]

I use bendy picks too, I dunno what size they are though.

fistycuffs_23 08-03-2005 09:35 AM

I found out if your playing opens on the D or C string .. what ever its tuned in .. if you place your finger right to the right of the nut it gives a nice muting sound.. i use it mainly for breakdowns . .but it makes it hard to switch to a riff.. but i manage

footpedal 08-05-2005 02:21 PM

Thanks for the tips, and for the reassurance that picking bassist are NOT bad bassists. I have a couple of questions: first, do you know of any bassists who palm mute? ; and second, the song "Idiots Are Taking Over" on the NoFx album "The War On Errorism" has an unbelievable bass solo at the beginning, and i was wondering if you know how to play that (if you've never heard the song that's ok but i'd appreciate it if you would listen to it and reply asap).

Thanks again for the tips!

Viscous Fridge Magnet 08-06-2005 07:03 AM

Bassists don't really need to palm mute, we already have the heavyness


(i think anyway)

mikethecoug 08-08-2005 06:49 AM

[QUOTE=wicked_child]hard picks for me.[/QUOTE]

1.9 mm for me and sometimes jim dunlop 3mm stubbies mmm

tomtom 08-13-2005 04:56 AM

i use 1.0mm Dunlop Tortex's. they're bendy, but durable. i also alternate between picking and plucking (depending on the song) but mainly pick. it is good 2 see that people are picking, i find it has such a better tone than plucking.

Khaos 08-17-2005 06:53 PM

I have a couple different size dunlops, but I usually like to use Heavy picks, I like the hard sound they give, specially on the open G and D strings.

Oh and nice Guide JoZ!! First time I read it :D I havent really been pick bassing that long but I started about a month ago when I wanted to learn some SOAD. Thanks for your sexy guide :D

LewsTherin 08-17-2005 07:04 PM

[QUOTE=Four strings of joy]Bassists don't really need to palm mute, we already have the heavyness


(i think anyway)[/QUOTE]


palm-muting sound great sometimes, esp on an open E or B string, picking heavily, with a flanger or wah.

mmmmmm.

mikethecoug 08-20-2005 09:19 AM

John entwistle started with a pick when he first started playing. How about that eh.

wicked_child 08-21-2005 06:19 PM

palm muting sounds good on bass.

tomtom 08-27-2005 02:36 AM

i've never tried palm muting, i don't even know what it is, i presume you just put you'r palm on the strings to mute the note after playing it but.


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