[QUOTE=Sky]the singer does nothing whatsover for me, almost makes it unbearable[/QUOTE]

Tell me about it, like f**kin learn to sing buddy :lol:

I really don't care for the singing myself on that album. Just curious, what kind of singing do you like? Or who are some of your favorite singers?

Your singing is fine! Its superb actually

[QUOTE=AllIDoIsHammerEverything]Your singing is fine! Its superb actually[/QUOTE]

Thanks, maybe some of my problem is just hearing my own voice. I think when you hear your own voice (even just speaking) played back to you through something it automatically sounds different/wierd to you since you're used to hearing your own voice right from your mouth...lol that kinda sounds funny but I don't know how else to explain it.

But I'd say I'm much closer to where I want to be with my singing now (more towards a Maiden/Edguy style). It's been so long since we recorded that material. I don't even know if I could sound the same (as my voice on Rusted Icons) even if I tried now.

Hey Jeffof Betrayer,
I noticed in all your posts, you never give any critique or comments about anyone
else' music. A lot of the younger rockers might appreciate some comments & advice on their music from someone who is farther along.


Jay

Well of course mr. jeff's voice isnt like Bruce Dickinson, but it fits very well with what they play. Holy Wars, you got extrememly close to Dave Mustaine's voice.

I agree with the person who said you sounded like Dave Mustaine the singing on your cover was IDENTICAL to the original version. Keep up the good work!

[QUOTE=JayLink]Hey Jeffof Betrayer,
I noticed in all your posts, you never give any critique or comments about anyone
else' music. A lot of the younger rockers might appreciate some comments & advice on their music from someone who is farther along.


Jay[/QUOTE]

Ya, that's because I only care about my band :thumb: jk.

I have listened to other peoples stuff on here. Some I found to be very good and others....let's just say they could use a little work. I guess I should make some comments. I just find it very hard to say something about someones work. I'd rather only make a comment if I was asked by someone for advise or suggestions on something specific. I don't know maybe I'll change my mind but right now I just can't bring myself to comment/make suggestions on other peoples work without them asking. But then again I guess that's what this forum is for. Hahaha, ok I'm making excuses....I'm wussing out because I don't want to offend anyone I guess :wave:

Do you have tabs for your songs on your site?

i didnt really like it but yet again i don like most 80's metal :(

Do you have tabs for your songs on your site?

No, we don't have any tabs....yet. Some people have asked us to tab out our songs and I would like to but I just can't seem to find the time to do it. All the time I have I try to devote to writing for our next album, practicing, promoting the band etc. But I think that after we record our next CD I'll have time to tab out some stuff off Icons since writing/recording a new album won't be a top priority any more.

I had to bump this because this band is amazing.

I had to bump this because this band is amazing.

i cant really say much else since everyone has said it. i check up here once a month and im glad i did tonight so check this thred. since i am a huge maiden fan i can point out there influences. and some sab. you guys are really good. how long have your guitarists been playing for? what age are you guys? very good stuff guys

Good stuff dude. Shawn pimped your band pretty good over at the Metallica boards. I've heard your stuff and it kicks serious ***. If you guys ever play in Kingston, I'm there!

Cheers

Thanks for the bump Po0sH!

"you guys are really good. how long have your guitarists been playing for? what age are you guys? very good stuff guys"

Hey thanks spiderman546, I'm 27 and I've been playing guitar for about 10yrs, and our other guitarist (who joined the band after Rusted Icons was recorded) is......25...i think lol & has been playing for about 12 years.

"Good stuff dude. Shawn pimped your band pretty good over at the Metallica boards. I've heard your stuff and it kicks serious ***. If you guys ever play in Kingston, I'm there!

Cheers"

Thanks crunchmeister! Lol, yeah I think a moderator at the Metallica board almost banned Shawn over something related to that.

I first found you guys from the metallica forums.... you rule!

:thumb:

This is really good material, I love what you did with the Paranoid cover, the solo idea, very original ;)

Excellent.

The only thing I didn't like is the singing (in my opinion) is a bit quiet?

Hmmm, might just be me.

Keep rocking,
axetickle

[QUOTE=JeffofBetrayer]Thanks crunchmeister! Lol, yeah I think a moderator at the Metallica board almost banned Shawn over something related to that.[/QUOTE]

Heheh. Fixxxer will ban people for breathing too hard sometimes. He's a touchy fellow.

We all advertise our bands' stuff over there, but there seemed to be a daily new thread about Betrayer for a while. I know Fixxxer doesn't like that, so Shawn may have gotten a warning or something.

This is awsome, I love your voice. I find you sounded great in paranoid cover. You really remind me of dave mustaine

Thanks for the replies & compliments!

"The only thing I didn't like is the singing (in my opinion) is a bit quiet?"

Just wondering if it's the actual way I sang that sounded quiet or the volume/mix level of the vocal track that you found to be quiet?

Here's a clip of 'Partaker of Evil' off our new EP 'Shadowed Force'

[url]http://www.betrayer.ca/cgi-bin/board/attach.cgi?bet-poe-clip.mp3[/url]

You guys kick ***. I loved Holy Wars.

I can't stop listening to this stuff, excellent job.

I hope to hear more from you guys.

Yep awesome stuff, I actually got on your forums before I saw yall on here.

I play your stuff every day.

The singing is good I think, I am a singer and I like your voice, it has a different sound than most of the crap around today. Definately a huge fan. Great to see metal with lyrics that can be understood, and not ****ty screaming.

Hey, thanks for the feedback! I'll have three new songs up shortley from our new EP(including the full version of 'Partaker of Evil'), just have to wait until our online listening party is over (March 20th), then I can post em.

Heard it over at ur site the day you put it up, sounds pretty good. Way better production!

Hey thanks PoOosH, yeah I really like how the production turned out. It's the same producer as 'Rusted Icons' but a new studio location that he built plus a lot more experience under his belt. The clip we posted on our message board a while back was a partially mixed and unmastered version but the one I posted now is fully mixed & mastered, so not sure if you checked out the difference (also some added vocal harmonies in this one).

Hey Jeff, I think u kick total ***! The holy wars cover was unbelivable, I'm going to c megadeth in a month, I hope they do it as good as u!!!

I'm also in a band, I play rhythm guitar and vocals and I noe where ur coming from, especially when its hard to hear own voice, I really find it difficult sometimes to hear what I'm actually doing! (Might have to kill the sound guys...) I'm only 18 as is the rest of my band, I just hope we can one day match ur skill!

Anyway keep up the good work, awesome, really awesome. Personally I think we are seeing someone on the rise here.

ps Decendants of Death = god

Robbo

I definitly heard a heavy Iron Maiden influence from the instruments. The singer could definitly use a little work with his range just to make it a little more interesting. I like you guys a lot though. The intro to Descendants of Death was really cool with the chimes. Keep up the good work.

Thanks for the feedback & compliments! What's the name of your band Yobbo Maiden? Do you have a website?

"The singer could definitly use a little work with his range just to make it a little more interesting"

Yeah I agree with that. I've worked a lot on increasing my range since the Rusted Icons CD. Did you check out the clip of 'Partaker of Evil' from our new EP? I have some pretty high vocal harmonies in there.... I should have the full versions of all three new songs posted on Tuesday!