^Yeah, any chance of a posting in the Audio Arena?

I shall try, I need to borrow my bands recorder for it. lots of harmonics.

I'd love to hear that acoustic version man... that would be very interesting...

This album is pure excellence, such a masterpeice. It lured me into Tool a while back and still to this day is in my top 5 favorite albums. Its dark in some areas, then its powerful and bold the next. Maynard really knows how to express his lyrics very well , Tick & Leeches for example. Also, me being a drummer.. I am a HUGE fan of Danny, I've learned how he plays and Ive developed some of his style into my own drumming, his drumming is so technical yet awesome, and as for Adam and Justin they just wouldn't be Tool without them.

5/5 for the best progressive metal album in my book.

This is my favorite CD ever...because of the real songs, there are no bad moments at all...except one...where Triad is listed as being 8:46 but really ends at like 6:39 or something :upset:

Disposition/Reflection are good. I don't like the rest of the songs on this album.

apparently, Triad doesn't end there.

if you have an HDCD player, there are some hidden stuff or something. i dunno where i heard that, probably bull, but i know for definate it is a HDCD.

I knew it was an HDCD but I dunno

Anyone have an HDCD player? Anyone want to test this out for us?

Good review but Tool is just a boring band.

If you don't like them, write a review about it don't just say it.

I hold no regard for that man's opinions, and neither should any of you

Although Aenima will always be my favorite, but Lateralus is an unbelievable record. They showed great maturity in the composition/songrwriting, and I love their new grooves. Triad is one of the highlights music wise for me. Although all the songs are great, as are all Tool songs ive heard.

btw there is another show that I was at in Ft. Lauderdale that Tool played Ticks and Leeches live. They played it great (as per usual) and between that show and another one in tallahasse me and my brother have seen all of lateralus live.:thumb: There is a ****ty vid on kazaa somewhere of it.

My band did a version of the Patient. Its on our soundclick site
[url]http://www.soundclick.com/bands/9/markmattermusic.htm[/url] :thumb:

I have said video of them doing T&L live

Poor quality, but it sounds like Maynard did a great job with it

I think I have the FT Lauderdale video of Ticks and Leeches as well, where they announce they're gonna play something special, as it's their last night being supported by Fantomas?

I didn't think it was Fantomas they were being supported by...maybe though, it's been a while since I've watched it

But yeah, Maynard does say they were going to play something special for whoever was supporting them...something bout it never being played either...I think

EDIT: "This is the last show we're doing with our friends, Fantomas...so we wanted to dedicate a song to them that we don't normally do...it's called 'Buzz has a hairlift' :confused: ? "

Ticks and Leeches has one of the few screams in all music I not only cna stand but enjoy. It's mixed perfectly to not come out above the music but be part of it and its not a crackly scream, its a smooth one (or as smooth as you can get).

[QUOTE=The JoZ]I didn't think it was Fantomas they were being supported by...maybe though, it's been a while since I've watched it

But yeah, Maynard does say they were going to play something special for whoever was supporting them...something bout it never being played either...I think

EDIT: "This is the last show we're doing with our friends, Fantomas...so we wanted to dedicate a song to them that we don't normally do...it's called 'Buzz has a hairlift' :confused: ? "[/QUOTE]


I think it was buzz has a hairlip, referring to Buzz Melvin of the Melvins. They were also on the tour, My fuzzy memory cant recall if the melvins were at that particular show, but i think they were. I saw them 4 times in Florida, with Fantomas, Melvins and Tomahawk opening. I know they played a tune for buzz's bday, might have been third eye.

Lateralus is one of the best albums EVER created. as for my favourite song "THE GRUDGE" is clearly the best song.

I love Triad its such an awesome instrumental song, I also like Parabola, maynard has excellent vocals,

great review :thumb:

Your review in my opinion gives all the credit that is due to Tool. I cannot wait for their new album to come out, I hope it is even more outstanding than Lateralus in both lyrical and instrumental aspects. Tool has done a true service to all true music fans by putting their heart and soul into their albums, this really shows on Lateralus. As for the sound at the beginning of The Grudge it reminds me of an elevator and as far as i know "Faaip de Oaid" does mean Voice of God.

Fans of earlier Tool be wary of this. While "Ænima" and "Undertow" are excellent hard rock records, "Lateralus" is an exercise in how [i]not[/i] to do progressive rock. There are 2 good songs, "Parabol/a" and "Lateralis," and that's all. The rest of the album is a snooze, a bunch of prententious artsy farts attempting progressive rock and falling about a mile short. The gimmicky time signatures, the long drawn out instrumental (read sparse and boring) passages, etc, it's all from the book prog. What they forgot is to apply these ideas to good music, like so many bands (like King Crimson, who they seem to be a bit obsessed with) have before them. They lack the maturity and singular vision to conceive an album like this, and it shows on all the tracks besides the 2 I mentioned. 2/5.

Being the first Tool album i owned, I have to say that it's a great album. Tool gives a great musical quality to everything they do. My personal favorite song would be Parabol/a being the song that caused me to buy this album it was so good. Great review and i agree with it all the way.

[QUOTE=Zappa]Fans of earlier Tool be wary of this. While "Ænima" and "Undertow" are excellent hard rock records, "Lateralus" is an exercise in how [i]not[/i] to do progressive rock. There are 2 good songs, "Parabol/a" and "Lateralis," and that's all. The rest of the album is a snooze, a bunch of prententious artsy farts attempting progressive rock and falling about a mile short. The gimmicky time signatures, the long drawn out instrumental (read sparse and boring) passages, etc, it's all from the book prog. What they forgot is to apply these ideas to good music, like so many bands (like King Crimson, who they seem to be a bit obsessed with) have before them. They lack the maturity and singular vision to conceive an album like this, and it shows on all the tracks besides the 2 I mentioned. 2/5.[/QUOTE]
I see where you're coming from, and this is pretty much how I felt when I first got it. However, it's grown on me, and now I love it.

What were you banned for this time?

Can either of you try and...support the 'bad prog' thing?

I think this is their most prog album

I don't think Zappa is denying it's a prog album, he's just saying it's a badly done prog album. I personally don't know/care whether it's prog or not (that's why I didn't name it prog in the title), I just know it's a rock/metal album that I really love.

Well, I mean if it's just a disagreement on what prog is...meh...

[QUOTE=Bartender]What were you banned for this time?[/QUOTE]
Posting in the "While the Mods Are Away" thread. Ironically, I was telling everyone who read it not to post in the thread. Guess I had to take one for the team...

[quote=The JoZ]Can either of you try and...support the 'bad prog' thing?

I think this is their most prog album[/quote]
No one's saying this isn't a prog album...in fact, this is really their only album that is prog. I dunno if this is exactly what Zappa thinks, but what I thought at first was that the instrumental parts were very boring (like in Reflection....it's a good drum part, but it goes on way too long and nothing changes) and quite frankly, Triad is a boring instrumental. Also, I think they tried to make long songs for the sake of being "prog" and it didn't work out in most cases. Plus, the whole filler thing they do with both Aenima and Lateralus (I can't speak for the other two, as I haven't heard them) is totally lame. They're just trying to push the album to the time limits of what a single disc can hold, and it's a gimmick. It really seemed like they tried to be prog, when they really weren't good at it. That's how I felt at first, but now it's grown on me and I really like it (Aenima is still far superior, though).

I admit there are parts that are longer than they should be. The opening solo in Triad is wicked, and I love the main beat...but after that, it does get boring. Reflection? Sure, the bass and drumlines may not change much, but to me, that song is about atmosphere, and the feeling of it. It's a huge feeling song. The whole 'see how much of the CD we can fill up deal' I don't feel is a gimmick, but filler tracks are. But if you look at it, Lateralus only had 2 filler tracks on it...and one was at the very end...

I mean, if you compare them to Dream Theater, yeah, they aren't changing every 5 bars...

But despite how good DT are, sometimes I think they change too just for the sake of it...

I really don't want to argue about this, because it seems that people conflict over the meaning of 'prog'...so...

[QUOTE=The JoZ]I really don't want to argue about this, because it seems that people conflict over the meaning of 'prog'...so...[/QUOTE]
Everyone agrees that it's prog.

[QUOTE=Kaden3]Everyone agrees that it's prog.[/QUOTE]

Not in R&M they don't...

I have had to defend Tool's prog-ness on more than one occasion in there