lol, do i have to listen to every single band? When i get home I'll listen to it oblin. Most likely it is. My band just did a show, and we did a live recording, soon I will post my scream for you guys :) it sounded pretty sick!

Hey,
I would like to be able to do a Steven Tyler from Aerosmith type scream. Im going to be doing "Dream On" soon, and need to be able to hit the scream at the very end of the song. I actually take lessons from Tyler's coach, but I would like your take on how to produce it. I don't really understand your instructions either. I've got the posture and everything down, but what kind of things do I need to do in my throat or to my larynx or whatever to actually produce the scream?

Steven tyler eh? That shouldn't be to hard to do, I don't know how to make it any clearer than what I said, its just about pushing (psychotically hard) your whipser/falsetto voice, and knowing how to use a microphone effectively. What is it you don't understand? There shouldn't be any REAL strain on your voice doing it, I mean your throat will hurt a little, after doing an hour or so set, but nothing serious.

Thanks. I just didn't read it right, sorry about that. Thanks a lot again

When I scream, afterwards my voice kills me. My voice sounds a little sketchy and my throat hurts a little. And it also prevents me from singing in high notes. I scream from my gut and my throat. Maybe i am doing it wrong? I've been drinking honey and lemon juice to help my throat. Any suggetions?

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Although honey and lemon is good for your throat when you are sick, before you sing it is a REALLY bad idea. As I have posted early any fruit that is acidic is bad for you before you sing... lemon is probably the most :)

I find ANYTIME you sing from your gut and your throat you are putting your vocal chords at risk... and from my point of view it is always a bad idea, I have never heard or seen a method of this kind of screaming style that will not result in severe strain.

I have posted numerous times how to do it the only way i know how which is using your falsetto/whisper voice, so it feels like your singing right at the TOP of your mouth... as apposed to in your throat and gut. Eventually with a lot of practise you can get a decent low metal scream (though never as good as a gut scream, but its pretty damm close), or a high pitched one... and you won't end up killing your voice.

Re: Screaming... some pointers
 

[QUOTE][i]Note: Kurt Cobain "screaming" isn't screaming, its aggresive pitched singing and isn't something you can reallyteach, If you can't hit those notes you can't hit them. Its like asking someone to teach you to have a higher voice. Its true with a lot of practise you can increase your vocal range, but in most cases you are pretty much stuck with what you got. If you have a crummy deep voice like scott stapp of creed lol don't expect to be doing and cobain screams any time soon. [/B][/QUOTE]




thats just lots of smoking aswell........ it screws up your vocal chords and you sound really raspy when you sing at a loud volume. not shouting, but singing loud.

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Griffin_Page [/i]
[B]I wanna yell like Tom Araya. [/B][/QUOTE]






easy. its just a combo of yelling and screaming. just yell and make your voice go a tiny bit deeper. then match the pitch

[QUOTE][i]3) avoid drinking milk: I know the guy in the other forum said to drink milk before you do a scream... I can see why this would be important if you are doing an improper technique that hurts your vocal chords... however assuming you are following my instructions milk will just build up a HUGE amount of mucus in your mouth. After about 30 minutes of your set you might start coughing it up between songs like an idiot or worse during a song.[/B][/QUOTE]

i drink milk. i dont f*ck up my voice, and i also use proper technique. i talk fine, sing fine, scream fine, etc.

In Just a moment i'll tell you about the deep death metal screaming, but first:


electron - the baginning of the silent scream is just a high pithced cannibal corpse type thing.

chewbacca - all he bends over for is to keep a longer scream, and all it does is push more aair out of your stomache.

doll - all manson does is the kurt cobain thing. read my other reply above to see.


CANNIBAL CORPSE SCREAMING!!!::::

ok. first off, try talking like darth vader. so your addam's apple goes IN. then make your voice go raspy.and push LOTS of air out. if you want to go lower, turn your tounge sideways. pronunciation will be hard, but it works. also, to go LOWER than that, put your tounge on the roof of your mouth as of your going "LLLLLLLLLLLLLLL"

it will sound normal. trust me.

DYING FETUS SCREAM:

haha. hard to explain, so try and stay level with me. all you do is scream inwards (breahte inwards and close your throat) then do the cannibal corpse thing inwards. like siad. hard to explain, but owrht it when you figure it out.

thats about the best i can explain it. now if you'll excuse me, i have to go belt out with some cannibal corpse. c ya.

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by rayce [/i]
[B]i drink milk. i dont f*ck up my voice, and i also use proper technique. i talk fine, sing fine, scream fine, etc. [/B][/QUOTE]

I didn't say "don't drink milk ever" it was in the context as "right before a show I wouldn't drink milk".

Mainly because milk causes large mucus buildup in your mouth and if you are screaming you could end up spiting a lot and yeah... and feeling like you have to clear your throat all the time.

If you don't have this problem cheers, thats good for you! I just found with a lot of singers, and teachers I have had, have had this problem and was just passing some advice.

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by rayce [/i]
[B]
DYING FETUS SCREAM:

haha. hard to explain, so try and stay level with me. all you do is scream inwards (breahte inwards and close your throat) then do the cannibal corpse thing inwards. like siad. hard to explain, but owrht it when you figure it out. [/B][/QUOTE]

Be careful, inward screaming is... :rolleyes: well its hard to do well without really hurting your throat, I have tried it and always end up really hurting or irratating my throat badly and not able to sing for a few days. I'd stay away from it unless you absolutely must do this style...

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Screamin_Demon_Auz [/i]
[B]Im having a horrible time trying to produce this **** scream. Im only 13, i'll be 14 in 2 months, and have been taking lessons for just under 6 months. Are there any good exercises at getting a scream sound, or even adding rasp to falsetto or anything other than just screaming at the top of your lungs. I end up getting this quick tickle kind of feeling then I choke when I just scream. [/B][/QUOTE]

dude, i'm 14. its harsh stuff, ya. and it does tickle for a little bit there. it takes a while, but you'll eventually develope the way around it.......... took me a solid 4 hours and passing out twice to get it lol. and s for the whole milk thing, sorry, ugess i shoulda read it twice. as for rasp in a falsetto, if you mean AC(lightning bolt)DC kinda stuff, best to do that, is smoke. but if ya smoke, you wont be able to sing ALL that well, you still could, but if you get lucky, you end up like kurt cobain. and inward screaming and being able to sing after, i find kinda odd the way i do it. i dont screw myself up doing it (by the way Chino from the deftones paralyzed a vocal chord inward screaming lol) just open your throat as much as you can. another hard to explain.i'd post a sound clip but you cant post sound clips on here.

well the scream im going after is something like steven tyler or maybe even sebastian bach. i don't smoke, and never will. i do like ac/dc, but thats the last kind of voice i want lol!

Deftones
 

I heard someone say Chino screams inward,how do you do that?(BTW I thought he dropped a lung...)I can scream like Chad Gray(Mudvayne),but I can't figure out screaming inward....any help?:smoke: :smoke: :smoke:

Re: Deftones
 

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Bleached515 [/i]
[B]I heard someone say Chino screams inward,how do you do that?(BTW I thought he dropped a lung...)I can scream like Chad Gray(Mudvayne),but I can't figure out screaming inward....any help?:smoke: :smoke: :smoke: [/B][/QUOTE]

Chino does not scream inward, that is bullsh*t, i can produce a pretty good chino scream and its not with inward screaming. I know he inhales the way you do during an inward scream, which means he does not use his diaphram, but that doesn't really affect the way he sounds too much. The method I have posted earlier can be used to reproduce this sound.

As for the steven tyler post, :| read above plz.

and you don't have to smoke to develope that kind of voice, anybody who says that is an idiot. Its about developing a style, if you want to sound raspy you can learn to do that after you learn how to sing. for vocal singing exercises i have another thread called singing... some pointers.

Thanks
 

Thanks,I didn't really know what the **** inward screaming was anyway.Wait doesn't Serj do soemthing like that? Or so I've been told.And was I right earlier about Chino,didn't he drop a lung before they recorded White Pony?I never heard of him paralyzing a vocal chord..

I know how to inward scream, but its retarded and the sound you get resembles a dying chicken screaming in pain...

plus it f*cks up your vocal chords, so I am not going to post the technique in doing it. I wouldn't be suprised if Chino did do that, :| he always seems to go the extra mile screaming wise.

I wanna sing like Bert McCracken becuase he has a awsome voice..he can go from hardcore screaming to a nice singing voice its so kool...Does ne1 else lov The USed??

Re: Deftones
 

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Bleached515 [/i]
[B]I heard someone say Chino screams inward,how do you do that?(BTW I thought he dropped a lung...)I can scream like Chad Gray(Mudvayne),but I can't figure out screaming inward....any help?:smoke: :smoke: :smoke: [/B][/QUOTE]



mudvayne screaming rules dude.......... but theres just one thing. me and my backing vocalist have been trying to do this for quite some time now, and still cant. i mena, the screaming itself is easy, but how do you hit the high notes like on dig "every thing that i AAAAAAAM!". some help would greatly be apreciated

*shoots self in head*

Hey Rayce,I really don't know what to tell about the scream...It just kinda happens,like its my natural scream pushed to its limits.I don't know dude....I like doing Nothing to Gein and -1,they are just awesome to sing to.(that had nothing to do with anything,I just like those songs :D )

my scream sounds a bit like the from autumn to ashes scream, however i want it to sound like joe's from a static lullaby. do you have any tips for me?

also, when you feel the soreness after, is it supposed to be like how when you feel when you were yelling alot?

Rayce: Ok, first off never scream like Mudvayne. He permanantly blew his voice from doing it. Thats why they used to be a trio and now theyre a quartet. Its a new vocalist. Im sure once in a great while people can do it and be fine, but thats a rare 2%. The lead singer of Disturbed also had to stop screaming from his gut cuz it was pushing stomach acid into his esophogus and eating away at it. So ya, if you dont care about your body and voice, go for it. I personally value my voice too much.

Radio_flyer: Whatever scream you have is pretty much what youre stuck with. Ive been working on mine for like a month solid now with my vocal instructer and although i can kinda change the way it sounds, for the most part im stuck sounding like Geoff from thursay and Bert from The Used. I myself wanted a Nate Barcelow scream. So im slowly accepting the fact that ive got what i got, you should too. But keep practicing and you can at least kind of get it to sound like what you want and hey, maybe youll prove me wrong. Cuz hell, ive only been doing it a little over a month, lol. Oh and it shouldnt hurt if you do it right. Mine only hurt the 1st time cuz it wasnt used to using my falsetta that much. But not a stinging soreness, more of a worked out muscle kind of sore. If its the stinging kind, then youre tearing up your voice and youre doing it wrong. Laters

Oh and my friend can inward scream like a madman but ya, it does ruin your singing voice for a good day and its hard to form words with it. Just work at the falsetta scream. Its like anything else, youre not gonna get it right away. Its gonna take ALOT of practice. Just like singing. SO GET TO IT!!!

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Bleached515 [/i]
[B]Hey Rayce,I really don't know what to tell about the scream...It just kinda happens,like its my natural scream pushed to its limits.I don't know dude....I like doing Nothing to Gein and -1,they are just awesome to sing to.(that had nothing to do with anything,I just like those songs :D ) [/B][/QUOTE]


dude, mudvayne is tough sh*t. i heard the guy used to gargle a combo of water and gravel (ya right) to get his voice that way. the the whole trio/quartet thing, then that must mean that the guitarist (Gurg, or Güüg, depending on which era you go by) must have done the screaming. honest to go truth, they must not have been a trio, on acounta the fact that my friend jesse got ahold of the VERY first mudvayne CD, right before they hit it big (thats right, its a demo CD) and kud (or Chüd......... whatever) did the vocals on that too. besides, i can scream like normal mudvayne stuff, but when it comes to the higher stuff (like internal primates forever where he scream the last part of addictions..... making it "adicTIONS!") is all i'm having trouble with. os for the david draiman comment above, yes he did have to stop. but i can get an equal sounding scream just by yelling, (pantera did this) so i dont see why david just did this :confused:

I wanna scream like Ian MacKaye...

Ok, whenever I started screaming I couldn't do it for more than ten minutes because my throat would start hurting. It only took me a couple of days to be able to do it without my throat hurting but now whenever I do it, after about twenty minutes I get this funny feeling in the back of my throat whenever I do the higher notes. It doesn't hurt but it feels like I've swallowed something but it hasn't gone all the way down. It just kind of rests there in the back of my throat. Is this normal?

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Doll [/i]
[B]Ok, whenever I started screaming I couldn't do it for more than ten minutes because my throat would start hurting. It only took me a couple of days to be able to do it without my throat hurting but now whenever I do it, after about twenty minutes I get this funny feeling in the back of my throat whenever I do the higher notes. It doesn't hurt but it feels like I've swallowed something but it hasn't gone all the way down. It just kind of rests there in the back of my throat. Is this normal? [/B][/QUOTE]


ok, i'm not sure, because i was self taught, but i'd say improper form. how do you scream?