[quote=Riva]Well, anyway, I banned him for three weeks.[/quote]

Thank you so much. We get plenty of "bashers" who stop in and bash a band/their thread here and there. It was his all over trolling that was most annoying.

Hail Riva!

Notice that neither of those were related to R&M.

[url]http://www.sputnikmusic.com/forums/showthread.php?t=476157[/url]

Another Wolfmother thread.

[url]http://www.sputnikmusic.com/forums/showthread.php?p=12612294#post12612294[/url]

Move to the tab forum please.

Question:

How does a band thread eventually become the "official" one?

[quote=got tool?]Question:

How does a band thread eventually become the "official" one?[/quote]

It's just the main place of discussion for a band. Instead of ten small threads.


For example,

We have one Metallica thread. Everything Metallica goes there.

[QUOTE=TEST]It's just the main place of discussion for a band. Instead of ten small threads.


For example,

We have one Metallica thread. Everything Metallica goes there.[/QUOTE]

I know that... i post in the Tool one all the time :p
I think you misunderstood my question, so lemme rephrase it: how does any thread on a band eventually become the official thread? i know there are zillions of little threads flaoting around, but how do the mods choose (if that;s what they do) which one will be the *official* one for that band?

[quote=got tool?]I know that... i post in the Tool one all the time :p
I think you misunderstood my question, so lemme rephrase it: how does any thread on a band eventually become the official thread? i know there are zillions of little threads flaoting around, but how do the mods choose (if that;s what they do) which one will be the *official* one for that band?[/quote]


Only a Mod can deem it "the official w/e thread"

[QUOTE=got tool?]I know that... i post in the Tool one all the time :p
I think you misunderstood my question, so lemme rephrase it: how does any thread on a band eventually become the official thread? i know there are zillions of little threads flaoting around, but how do the mods choose (if that;s what they do) which one will be the *official* one for that band?[/QUOTE]
Survival of the fittest. If it keeps up on the first page and people keep on using the given thread to discuss a band it just becomes the accepted 'official' thread. It's evolution in action.
[QUOTE=TEST]
Only a Mod can deem it "the official w/e thread"[/QUOTE]
Yeah, it's true it used to be that only mods could create 'official' threads but they were done away with by renaming them.

We don't have OFFICIAL tags anymore. A user can create a thread on a certain band, and if it's popular, it basically becomes the official one. A lot of the time they just flop.

But it is pretty obvious when a thread becomes the band's official one.

[quote=SilentScream]A lot of the time they just flop.[/quote]

You mean like Arsis and Nile several times a month?

Yes.

[quote=SilentScream]Yes.[/quote]

Indeed. I might start an R&M album swap. It'd be weekly. It'd be a AIM chat, if we had enough people, it'd be great. If anyone likes the idea for this weekend, post.

This is under, "asking questions, making suggestions"

[QUOTE=got tool?]Question:

How does a band thread eventually become the "official" one?[/QUOTE]

There's no such thing as official threads, but you'll notice that the rules state that creating a thread when one already exists is a no-no. So, in reality, there is no real difference between an "official" thread and a fairly new one. It's just that the more popular bands tend to have the bigger threads.

[QUOTE=Drunken Viking]Notice that neither of those were related to R&M.[/QUOTE]

I banned him for the stuff he did in R&M.

Thanks for modding me, Riva. And I love the forum I'm a modding. :lol:

No problem. :)

TEST, you can have you thread if you like.

[quote=Riva]No problem. :)

TEST, you can have you thread if you like.[/quote]


Thank you. :thumb:

I'll make it this evening. It'll be geared towards both Rock & Metal, depending on what the masses want.

Who do I ask about doing a FA? I read it was Med but I added him to AIM and he never got on. Fishy.
<.<
>.>
Sooo...

[QUOTE=Jacaranda]Who do I ask about doing a FA? I read it was Med but I added him to AIM and he never got on. Fishy.
<.<
>.>
Sooo...[/QUOTE]

I think Pop Punk already did a Blink-182 FA, Jac. :-/

:(
Ya but that doesn't count I'm going to focuse on Tom, Travis and Marks later days where they venture into Rock.

[quote=Jacaranda]:(
Ya but that doesn't count I'm going to focuse on Tom, Travis and Marks later days where they venture into Rock.[/quote]

In other words, find a way to sneak them into R&M?

So, 100 Greatest Metal Bands, when's it gonna be up.

[QUOTE]So, 100 Greatest Metal Bands, when's it gonna be up.[/QUOTE]

Whenever Riva decides to put it?

You guys can probably unsticky the 100 Greatest Drummers results thread. It's basically a general discussion now focusing on vocalists.

[QUOTE=PinkFreud]You guys can probably unsticky the 100 Greatest Drummers results thread. It's basically a general discussion now focusing on vocalists.[/QUOTE]

Ok.

[QUOTE=Drunken Viking]So, 100 Greatest Metal Bands, when's it gonna be up.[/QUOTE]

Gimme till exams are over.

[QUOTE=Jacaranda]:(
Ya but that doesn't count I'm going to focuse on Tom, Travis and Marks later days where they venture into Rock.[/QUOTE]

Sounds a bit sly.

[QUOTE=Spat Out Plath]Just do one, the procedure is only for when there's people willing to do them. I think Jason is second in line for asking to do them though.

Edit: Jason is second in line for everything[/QUOTE]

I'm nobody's towelboy. :angry:

[url]http://www.sputnikmusic.com/forums/showthread.php?t=476513[/url]

Advertising a show. That's all he's here for aswell.

Ya I know.

I no u no.

[url]http://www.sputnikmusic.com/forums/showpost.php?p=12625071&postcount=3958[/url]
I'm surprised he actually found the thread.

[url]http://www.sputnikmusic.com/forums/showthread.php?t=476774[/url]

Seems illegal. another "can you name me" thread.

Just merged it into the Recommendations thread.

Whenever I come into the R&M forum, I find it a daunting task trying to merge into the conversation, as with the ridiculously high amount of official band threads and official threads, the forum does not feel very welcoming to me. The fear of discussing tired topics in the official band threads has prevented me once or twice from making a post in one of them. So basically, from an outsiders viewpoint, I believe there are far too many of the official band threads. I actually linked my friend to the R&M forum a few months ago, but he didn't join because he found it a daunting layout.

I mean, when I see posts like [url=http://www.sputnikmusic.com/forums/showpost.php?p=12624212&postcount=19682]this[/url], it does make me :-/ at the idea of all these official band threads.

I apologise if you get this type of suggestion all the time, I'm pretty darn certain I wouldn't be the first to bring this up.

:eek: thats my post.

about your view about MX: i sometimes feel the same. i post only in some "band threads" but in most, who i don't visit often i just don't post cause for the reason you mentioned and every topic has been discussed 1000x times (how you have read in the CoB thread - i think MRDuCran said it).
but on the other side there don't exit an "official"- band threads ... they are only at the top cause a lot of ppl listen to them and post in there. f.e. the NIN thread... we don't have many NIN-fans on this board here but from time to time it gets bumped.

but if i would be you, i would just post when you have a question or anything... just do it.

[quote=repcak]:eek: thats my post.[/quote] Haha, sorry, didn't mean to single you out or anything.

[quote]about your view about MX:[/quote] Not really about Mx, just R&M really.

[quote]i sometimes feel the same. i post only in some "band threads" but in most, who i don't visit often i just don't post cause for the reason you mentioned and every topic has been discussed 1000x times (how you have read in the CoB thread - i think MRDuCran said it).
but on the other side there don't exit an "official"- band threads ... they are only at the top cause a lot of ppl listen to them and post in there. f.e. the NIN thread... we don't have many NIN-fans on this board here but from time to time it gets bumped.

but if i would be you, i would just post when you have a question or anything... just do it.[/quote] I can see why some bands such as Metallica, Tool etc would have their own thread. But many bands that I've heard of, but would not think of as a favourite of most, have their own thread. Just seems to me like each one has its own little community. Whether justified or not, I've never really felt that welcome in the many 'official' band threads.

To me it just feels like a limitation to discussion, where you have to keep close to the subject matter. Rather than letting each thread go off in its own direction.

Edit: See for example the DT thread where I tried to discuss the complexity of their music vs. the emotion. Had a nice litttle debate for half a page, but already its back to Octavarium and "it had some nice songs" type comments.

Yeah, we had this complaint a while back. I closed the old Pink Floyd thread, and Amit and Eccles posted a few times, saying it was good that the thread was smaller, since it was easier to jump into the conversation. However, they stopped posting pretty soon afterwards, and the net-effect wasn't really all that positive, or negative.

I think the status quo will remain having the established threads, simply for simplicity, but if people want to restart specific threads, they can. I know that the classic rock one was restarted by popular vote.

But yeah, I know a lot of threads don't have a problem with repeated discussion, so you shouldn't feel too nervous about getting a flame or two.

[quote=Riva]Yeah, we had this complaint a while back. I closed the old Pink Floyd thread, and Amit and Eccles posted a few times, saying it was good that the thread was smaller, since it was easier to jump into the conversation. However, they stopped posting pretty soon afterwards, and the net-effect wasn't really all that positive, or negative.

I think the status quo will remain having the established threads, simply for simplicity, but if people want to restart specific threads, they can. I know that the classic rock one was restarted by popular vote.

But yeah, I know a lot of threads don't have a problem with repeated discussion, so you shouldn't feel too nervous about getting a flame or two.[/quote] Personally I like the A&I thread layout. Whereby there are a few always-on-the-front-page threads, then a whole bunch of threads that go on for 100-200 posts on differing topics. See look at their forum they've got interesting threads, that provide new discussion with each thread:
[B][URL="http://www.sputnikmusic.com/forums/showthread.php?t=476527"]Music Quest ! How knowledgeable are you?[/URL]
[/B][B][URL="http://www.sputnikmusic.com/forums/showthread.php?t=476103"]Describe bands obtusely[/URL]
[/B][B][URL="http://www.sputnikmusic.com/forums/showthread.php?t=476563"]Pitchfork Music Festival[/URL]
[/B][B][URL="http://www.sputnikmusic.com/forums/showthread.php?t=475764"]Alt-Indie Radio[/URL][/B]

So basically just a whole bunch of threads, with no specific band threads. Which is far from R&M, where most of the page consists of 1000+ post band threads and a few on-going 1st-page threads.

I find the A&I layout allows such a wide breadth of discussion, whereas the R&M format is limiting, and less appealing to newbies. In my mind, it harbours the same discussion over and over again. Whereas A&I evolves day-to-day. Not that A&I is perfect or anything. I also acknowledge that R&M's high traffic makes it very hard to maintain such an unformatted thread-layout.

Edit: And as further proof for my edit in my last post, check out the DT thread again. The small moment of 'new discussion' (sorry if that sounds arrogant), has gone back to insults and talk about how good Octavarium is.

I'm not saying that R&M should go back to the ***OFFICIAL*** threads, but having [band name] [insert lame title here] threads can be rather tedious. Sometimes the band isn't even in the title, and since some people don't use the search button, it makes things difficult. Further, if I searched for a band like Slipknot, the official Slipknot thread wouldn't be the first hit - it would more than likely be the community threads, or even other band threads, and then the Slipknot one.

Even if you search 'Slipknot,' their official thread doesn't even show up on the first results page.

I know that these major band threads are linked in the rules, but as many of you are aware, not many people read the rules. Plus, with all those links to all those series articles (only one or two of which are still active), there's not really a point in having all of those linked, either, is there?

Your words trouble me, young Daniel and Jim. I shall consult with the other Elders and bring back our decision. However, no matter what our verdict, it will still be a dark day for R&M.

*twirls cape*

[url]http://www.sputnikmusic.com/forums/showthread.php?t=476809[/url]

Spam, close. Ban Riva! :lol:

[QUOTE=Moses][url]http://www.sputnikmusic.com/forums/showthread.php?t=476809[/url]

Spam, close. Ban Riva! :lol:[/QUOTE]
Riva, ban him :smash: