deliverance has now become my fvorite opeth album :D

my favourite album at the moment is morningrise, i got the re-issued version and i would like to hear eternal soul torture with an actual production.
Also, i am actually in a city and would anyone want to recommend me an opeth album? I have Deliverance, Still Life, Morningrise and Ghost Reveries. I also have The Lamentations DVD.
Perhaps BWP?

[QUOTE=aphotic__713]my favourite album at the moment is morningrise, i got the re-issued version and i would like to hear eternal soul torture with an actual production.
Also, i am actually in a city and would anyone want to recommend me an opeth album? I have Deliverance, Still Life, Morningrise and Ghost Reveries. I also have The Lamentations DVD.
Perhaps BWP?[/QUOTE]
BWP is excellent, but MAYH (My Arms, Your Hearse) is even better

[QUOTE=ok lateralus]BWP is excellent, but MAYH (My Arms, Your Hearse) is even better[/QUOTE]
I'd still recommened BWP first, as it is seen as the best by many.

[QUOTE=Darkness Of Greed]I'd still recommened BWP first, as it is seen as the best by many.[/QUOTE]
Not me :p

[QUOTE=Darkness Of Greed]I'd still recommened BWP first, as it is seen as the best by many.[/QUOTE]


It is a better place to start out with. MAYH has a really dark atmosphere, darker than most and it takes a while for you to get really into it.

If he enjoys Still Life, Deliverance and Ghost Reveries more so then Morningrise, he should get BWP, but if he's more of a Still Life/Morningrise kinda guy, then My Arms, Your Hearse would probably be best bets. Or Damnation if you want some all soft stuff. :p

Hey guys, saw Opeth last night in Munich, Germany. The show was FRIGGIN sweet. They were playing with Burst, who are also really cool.
Opeth played:

Ghost of Perdition
When
Closure
Bleak
White Cluster
The Grand Conjuration
Under The Weeping Moon (From orchid, thats crazy)
Baying of the Hounds
A Fair Judgement

Encore: Deliverance

It was cool as hell hearing Under The Weeping Moon, Mikael said that they hadn't played anything from that album (Orchid) in years. He was a riot up on stage, talking about David Hasselhof and ****... Axenrot is still drumming with them right now, that was kinda disappointing, i wanted to see Lopez... but Axenrot still rules and played the songs accurate to the beat.

[QUOTE=Darkness Of Greed]Far from masterpiece. :)

Songs like the Leper Affinity, have way better riffs, and lyrics, and vocals etc.

Bleak is an average song to me, it has nothing that really jumps out and grabs me.[/QUOTE]


I like Bleak, It's a masterpiece.

It's good, but no Opeth masterpiece.

I will see Opeth today... in 2h :D i will make some photos and will public it afterwards on my homepage :thumb:

can't wait...

[QUOTE=Shlakalam3]Hey guys, saw Opeth last night in Munich, Germany. The show was FRIGGIN sweet. They were playing with Burst, who are also really cool.
Opeth played:

Ghost of Perdition
When
Closure
Bleak
White Cluster
The Grand Conjuration
Under The Weeping Moon (From orchid, thats crazy)
Baying of the Hounds
A Fair Judgement

Encore: Deliverance

It was cool as hell hearing Under The Weeping Moon, Mikael said that they hadn't played anything from that album (Orchid) in years. He was a riot up on stage, talking about David Hasselhof and ****... Axenrot is still drumming with them right now, that was kinda disappointing, i wanted to see Lopez... but Axenrot still rules and played the songs accurate to the beat.[/QUOTE]


damn, and i only know about half of the songs you named... i'm only familiar with morningside, still life and ghost reviews

Wow...thanks Txus. That helped a lot. :thumb:

Kage: Oddly enough, yes, we get to analyze songs for health. :lol:

Part of our health class has to do with relationships and human emotions, or something along those lines...and from the few parts I could pick out of from Bleak, there was some kind of human interaction/emotion thing going on there.

just went and picked up Ghost Reveries. Good stuff, i think im gonna buy another copy for my friend for Christmas.

So ElectricalStorm told me to post this in here, this are some Opeth song interpretations i've made through some deep thinking...I already posted this in the fun thread.

Enjoy. :)

Opeth - Blackwater Park

Confessor
Of the tragedies in man
Lurking in the core of us all
The last dying call for the everlost
Brief encounters, bleeding pain
Lepers coiled neath the trees
Dying men in bewildered soliloquys
Perversions bloom round the bend
Seekers, lost in their quest
Ghosts of friends frolic
under the waning moon
It is the year of death
Wielding his instruments
Stealth sovereign reaper
Touching us with ease
Infecting the roots in an instant
Burning crop of disease
I am just a spectator
An advocate d0cumenting the loss
Fluttering with conceit
This doesn't concern me yet
Still far from the knell
Taunting their bereavement
Mod round the dead
Point fingers at the details
Probing vomits for more
Caight in unbridled suspense
We have all lost it now
Catching the flakes of dismay
Born the travesty of man
Regular pulse midst pandemonium
You're plucked to the mass
Parched with thirst for the wicked
Sick liaisons raised this monumental mark
The sun sets forever over Blackwater park

My Interpretation:

I did some thinking, and this is what I've come up with.

This is the magnum opus of the album; while musically some of the other songs are better (The Funeral Portrait, Dirge For November, Bleak) thematically, Blackwater Park outshines the rest. It is an analogy - on the surface, it talks of a village (Blackwater Park) where sin and disease have taken hold, and where people are dying off, until at last the narrator too is infected and dies. However, the song is an analogy for the evils in the world - Mikael is watching corruption and violence destroy the world slowly because of all the wrongs we've commited. The intro sums that up: "Confessor of the tragedies in man, lurking in the core of us all. The last dying call for the everlost; brief encounters, bleeding pain."

The narrator recalls visions of horror... "Lepers coiled neath the trees; dying men in bewildered soliloquys. Perversions bloom round the bend; seekers, lost in their quest. Ghosts of friends frolic under the waning moon ." The whole town around the man is dying out. People wander aimlessly through the world, unsure of their purposes in life.

In terms of the story, the narrator is an uninfected person, "an advocate d0cumenting the loss". He sees the sickness but is not a part of it yet: "It is the year of death, wielding his instruments. Stealth sovereign reaper, touching us with ease. Infecting the roots in an instant, burning crop of disease." In a literal sense, he is avoiding the immoral acts of the modern world and trying to live a good life. "Fluttering with conceit; this doesn't concern me yet. Still far from the knell, taunting their bereavement " So far, he is proud of the fact that he has avoided the "disease" of such failings, and he can laugh at those who have given up, but he knows that one day he will end up like all the others.

Mikael points out mankind's morbid fascination with violence and terror ("Point fingers at the details, probe vomits for more. Caught in unbridled suspense."), and how we as a society have "lost it now", at every moment "catching the flakes of dismay" - taking in every gory detail of life via the media. He points out the sick attitudes of today's youth in his metaphor about plague survivors who more and more often want to investigate the "disease" rather than exterminate it: "Born the travesty of man, regular pulse midst pandemonium. You're plucked to the mass, parched with thirst for the wicked."

Finally, Mikael remarks "Sick liaisons raised this monumental mark; the sun sets forever over Blackwater Park." As the sickening morbidity of the survivors takes over the town, ruining it forever and confirming its eventual destruction, the metaphor is for the doomed nature of our society. If we keep finding entertainment and interest in the dark side of humanity, the sun will set on us all, too.

Opeth - Windowpane

Blank face in the windowpane
Made clear in seconds of light
Disappears and returns again
Counting hours, searching the night

Might be waiting for someone
Might be there for us to see
Might be in need of talking
Might be staring directly at me

Inside plays a lullaby
Slurred voice over children cries
On the inside

Haunting loneliness in the eye
Skin covering a secret scar
His hand is waving a goodbye
There's no response or action returned

There is deep prejudice in me
Outshines all reason inside
Given dreams all ridden with pain
And projected unto the last

My Interpretation:

I'm pretty damn sure the song is about child abuse (physical and maybe sexual), and when I've played the song to friends, they've come to the same conclusion on their own.

The first verse and the bridge seem to be describing a child, looking out the window, waiting for somebody (his father?) to come home. And when the father does come home, drunk, he assaults his child or children ("slurred voice over children's cries"), scarring them emotionally for life.

"Haunting loneliness in the eye, skin covering a secret scar". This verse seems to be describing the father leaving in the morning for work or whatever, waving to his child, who doesn't return the wave, but just stares blankly out of the window. The final verse seems to be saying that the boy is Mikael and that his father mistreated him, which would be in line with "To Rid The Disease", which also seems to be about a father mistreating him. He seems to be saying that he still has bad dreams about his father's acts, and will for the rest of his life.


Opeth - Serenity Painted Death

Returned from a hibernal dream
Voices fell like marble
No longer by my side
Gone all that would linger

Ripped from my embrace
Melinda reflected in shafts
Red line round her neck
Met the earth in silence

White faced, haggard grin
This serenity painted death
With a halo of bitter disease
Black paragon in lingering breath

White faced, haggard grin
This serenity painted death
With a halo of bitter disease
Black paragon in lingering breath

Saw here fading, blank stare into me
Clenched fist from the beautiful pain

Darkness reared its head
Tearing within the reeling haze
Took control, claiming my flesh
Piercing rage, perfect tantrum
Each and every one would die at my hand
Choking in warm ponds of blood
At last, weak and torn, I went down
Drained from strength, flickering breath

Came with the moon
The wayward in concious state
Flanked and barred in destiny's end
Underneath with hope in laches
Swathed in filth, any would betoken
Starlit shadows on the wall
Finally there to collect me
From the bowels of sin

My Interpretation:

This is chapter 6 in the "Still Life" story. Still Life is a concept album that tells a story. The previous chapters told of how this man was banished from his hometown because of his lack of faith. He won't ever forgive the people that abandoned him, but he has returned to confront the one girl he loves, Melinda. In the previous "chapter", "The Face of Melinda", he confronts her. However, he learns that she has become married.

"Endlessly gazing in nocturnal prime
She spoke of her vices and broke the rhyme
But baffled herself with the final line
My promise is made but my heart is thine"

In this passage at the end of "The Face of Melinda", Melinda states that she is married but her heart belongs to the man who has returned. And this passage from "Serenity Painted Death"-

"Returned from a hibernal dream
Voices fell like marble
No longer by my side
Gone all that would linger

Ripped from my embrace
Melinda reflected in shafts
Red line round her neck
Met the earth in silence"

I believe that Melinda has just commited suicide because she is married to someone she doesn't truly love. The narrator then goes into a state of anger and vows to kill all of the people who had banished him. Which leads to chapter 7, "White Cluster"...

^^interesting stuff xus.

[QUOTE=Txus]
"Ripped from my embrace
Melinda reflected in shafts
Red line round her neck
Met the earth in silence"

I believe that Melinda has just commited suicide because she is married to someone she doesn't truly love. The narrator then goes into a state of anger and vows to kill all of the people who had banished him. Which leads to chapter 7, "White Cluster"...[/QUOTE]

The "Ripped from my embrace." line points more to her being caught by the village people, and that they hang her for the sin she has commited. Really nice post by the way.

[QUOTE=suspect]The "Ripped from my embrace." line points more to her being caught by the village people, and that they hang her for the sin she has commited. Really nice post by the way.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, I'm pretty sure she didn't commit suicide, she was probably caught by the village people, and killed for her crimes against her husband.

It's best that those write-ups were posted here. The majority of people who would choose to read them would do so because they already like the band--so it makes sense that the posts would be most beneficial in this thread.

Hopefully this will inspire others to contribute. So if you have any ideas just post them, don't be afraid to be wrong on an internet forum.

As for Blackwater Park, I don't see it so much as a condemnation of society but rather a realization of the irrevocably flawed condition of human nature--a condition that will eventually result in the described desolate future. The lyric is made infinitely more tragic by the acknowledgement that such facisinations with death and evil are everlastingly entrenched in our being--in the sense that their permanent existence guarentees a grim future.

Morever, most Opeth lyrics result from an elevated interest with death, evil, and the occult. For Mikael to condemn such interests would be hypocritical. If anything, he's simply realizing their inevitable presence in this song.

Having said that, I do think Bwp is exaggerated and overly dramatic.

Did someone from the band or representing the band actually say [I]Still Life[/I] was a story or did people just get that impression from the lyrics?

Just curious.

:)

Does anyone know what Blackrose immortal was about?

[QUOTE=Shlakalam3]Hey guys, saw Opeth last night in Munich, Germany. The show was FRIGGIN sweet. They were playing with Burst, who are also really cool.
Opeth played:

Ghost of Perdition
When
Closure
Bleak
White Cluster
The Grand Conjuration
Under The Weeping Moon (From orchid, thats crazy)
Baying of the Hounds
A Fair Judgement

Encore: Deliverance

It was cool as hell hearing Under The Weeping Moon, Mikael said that they hadn't played anything from that album (Orchid) in years. He was a riot up on stage, talking about David Hasselhof and ****... Axenrot is still drumming with them right now, that was kinda disappointing, i wanted to see Lopez... but Axenrot still rules and played the songs accurate to the beat.[/QUOTE]

Axenrot was friggin horrible in Montreal! He wouldn't stop missing cymbal hits, wouldn't stop playing wrong toms... couldn't even play at the right speed... That really disapointed me!

AND HE LOOKS LIKE A WOMAN :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

i just came back from the concert... it was great. Akerfeld is a typical mr. nice guy; the line up was the same as in germany; the support (burst) was a fantastic hardcore/grindcore band - i liked them.

i made some photos but 1# i forgot to charge my batteries and 2# without flash the photos are blurred/cloudy and with a flash you don't see anything :( i made only 30photos and only a few of them are good :( sorry guys....

[QUOTE=ElectricalStorm]It's best that those write-ups were posted here. The majority of people who would choose to read them would do so because they already like the band--so it makes sense that the posts would be most beneficial in this thread.

Hopefully this will inspire others to contribute. So if you have any ideas just post them, don't be afraid to be wrong on an internet forum.

As for Blackwater Park, I don't see it so much as a condemnation of society but rather a realization of the irrevocably flawed condition of human nature--a condition that will eventually result in the described desolate future. The lyric is made infinitely more tragic by the acknowledgement that such facisinations with death and evil are everlastingly entrenched in our being--in the sense that their permanent existence guarentees a grim future.

Morever, most Opeth lyrics result from an elevated interest with death, evil, and the occult. For Mikael to condemn such interests would be hypocritical. If anything, he's simply realizing their inevitable presence in this song.

[B]Having said that, I do think Bwp is exaggerated and overly dramatic.[/B][/QUOTE]
Why, just because of lack of subtley or what?

[QUOTE=.:~ Route 1 ~:.]Does anyone know what Blackrose immortal was about?[/QUOTE]
IMO the song looks like it's describing an invocation of satan as a final resort to a problem (loneliness, depression, whatever it is). The opening two lines show that it is a cry for help to someone. "I wear a naked soul" - saying his soul is exposed and vulnerable. "Eyes attached" through "but still so precious" talk about his communication with satan, saying that he speaks to satan in thoughts, even though satan is inaccessible, hidden in a "secret orchard." From "Lullaby of the crescent moon" to "divine herd" talks about how he was finally converted by the soothing nature (lullaby) of the night, and gave his soul up to satan. But he hides it, remains among the "divine herd," keeps his "golden symbol" hidden until the day comes that he can join satan (black rose immortal?).

[QUOTE=Txus]IMO the song looks like it's describing an invocation of satan as a final resort to a problem (loneliness, depression, whatever it is). The opening two lines show that it is a cry for help to someone. "I wear a naked soul" - saying his soul is exposed and vulnerable. "Eyes attached" through "but still so precious" talk about his communication with satan, saying that he speaks to satan in thoughts, even though satan is inaccessible, hidden in a "secret orchard." From "Lullaby of the crescent moon" to "divine herd" talks about how he was finally converted by the soothing nature (lullaby) of the night, and gave his soul up to satan. But he hides it, remains among the "divine herd," keeps his "golden symbol" hidden until the day comes that he can join satan (black rose immortal?).[/QUOTE]
Hmmm...idk, I don't think Opeth sings about Satan...I chould be wrong.

there stuff is rather dark and erie, but i dont really see them as being satanic though either.

[QUOTE=.:~ Route 1 ~:.]Hmmm...idk, I don't think Opeth sings about Satan...I chould be wrong.[/QUOTE]
Yeah I know, I was just bored and i wrote the first thing that came through my mind while reading the lyrics....sorry.... :upset:

I'd say they sing more about folk/pagan things.