The Russians took out their frustrations on the german population. THey had it very bad though. They were tortured by Stalin and the Nazis at the same time.

Once they reached german soil the pillaged it. Raped the women and killed them afterwards. My Grandfather was there. It sounds like straight nout of a horror film. He was later captured and to this day refuses to tell us what has happened.

my grandpa was in a POW camp in the war - he had a tattoo on his arm saying his prisoner number
whenever i remeber it i think
why did the nazis have to do that kind of thing?

[QUOTE=tim_commerfordism]you said hindu's when we were talking about buddhists

:chug:[/QUOTE]
Jaco Jr mentioned Hinduism :p

[QUOTE=jaco jr]my grandpa was in a POW camp in the war - he had a tattoo on his arm saying his prisoner number
whenever i remeber it i think
why did the nazis have to do that kind of thing?[/QUOTE]

Stalin was much much worse. He was a communist. Nuff said.

[QUOTE=Mitchell Royce]The Russians took out their frustrations on the german population. THey had it very bad though. They were tortured by Stalin and the Nazis at the same time.

Once they reached german soil the pillaged it. Raped the women and killed them afterwards. My Grandfather was there. It sounds like straight nout of a horror film. He was later captured and to this day refuses to tell us what has happened.[/QUOTE]

Yeah thats what my Grandmother said.

My great Grandfather was in a division, i dont know which, and was captured, had both his hands cut off by the Russian "negotiaters"

My Grandma and the rest of her family had to flee.

Do you hate me? :confused:

[QUOTE=neal_672]Stalin was much much worse. He was a communist. Nuff said.[/QUOTE]
dont insult communism,
chairman mao was bad too
i liked communism - but not the idea of killing people who would convert to it
mind you - they were in effect - terrorists

[QUOTE=Mitchell Royce]The Russians took out their frustrations on the german population. THey had it very bad though. They were tortured by Stalin and the Nazis at the same time.

Once they reached german soil the pillaged it. Raped the women and killed them afterwards. My Grandfather was there. It sounds like straight nout of a horror film. He was later captured and to this day refuses to tell us what has happened.[/QUOTE]

Wow, that must have been incredibly horrible.

I feel bad for people who had to go through that type of thing because now they have to live with the memories of things they never dreamed of. It just haunts them until they die.

[QUOTE=jaco jr]dont insult communism,
chairman mao was bad too
i liked communism - but not the idea of killing people who would convert to it
mind you - they were in effect - terrorists[/QUOTE]
Why not? Because you can't handle that almost every communist state ever has been murderous and war-mongering? Stalin had concentration camps too. He used to clear mine fields with prisoners. He killed more of his own people than Hitler killed Jews. Surely that is worse?

oh and when i went on a WW1 history trip 2 weeks ago to Belgium and France, and just past the border of Germany, we went to a Cemetary right on the border between the three countries.

One section of the gravestones had swastika's etc painted on, and frankly it just makes me angry and sick to see it, but they have to replace them

People who deface war memorials are scum. Utter utter scum, such a complete lack of respect to those who died so they can live the decadent lives they live. Should be lined up against a wall and shot. Utter utter scum...

[QUOTE=neal_672]Why not? Because you can't handle that almost every communist state ever has been murderous and war-mongering? Stalin had concentration camps too. He used to clear mine fields with prisoners. He killed more of his own people than Hitler killed Jews. Surely that is worse?[/QUOTE]
as you learned in our last debate -i believe in fate - they were meant to die then anyway
and i do think it bad - that is a bad thing

[QUOTE=tim_commerfordism]Do you hate me? :confused:[/QUOTE]

I am disappointed that you embrace National Socialism. I honestly don't see what the attraction of it is. Especially since you're mostly german.

[QUOTE=jaco jr]as you learned in our last debate -i believe in fate - they were meant to die then anyway
and i do think it bad - that is a bad thing[/QUOTE]

They were meant to die then anyway?! So if i walked up and shot someone in the head that'd be ok because they were meant to die then? What a load of bollocks!

[QUOTE=neal_672]People who deface war memorials are scum. Utter utter scum, such a complete lack of respect to those who died so they can live the decadent lives they live. Should be lined up against a wall and shot. Utter utter scum...[/QUOTE]
for once im 100% behind you
im off for the night guys
c ya :wave:

Ciao Castro....oops i mean Jaco Jr ;) :wave:

[QUOTE=neal_672]They were meant to die then anyway?! So if i walked up and shot someone in the head that'd be ok because they were meant to die then? What a load of bollocks![/QUOTE]
yeh - because - somehting is going to happen - and i reckon its already predicted

[QUOTE=neal_672]They were meant to die then anyway?! So if i walked up and shot someone in the head that'd be ok because they were meant to die then? What a load of bollocks![/QUOTE]

That's what I was thinking.

I mean, I think of fate as like someone catching cancer or something and not being able to be saved. Not someone else killing them. Or like the wrong place at the wrong time type of thing.

[QUOTE=neal_672]Ciao Castro....oops i mean Jaco Jr ;) :wave:[/QUOTE]
i saw a video of fidel castro falling down some steps the other day - flat on his face - just after his address to the nation
made me wet myself it was so funny
ok guys - bye for good :wave:

[QUOTE=jaco jr]yeh - because - somehting is going to happen - and i reckon its already predicted[/QUOTE]

That is such a load. That's no reason to justify things because of "fate". As i said if i walked up and killed someone it'd be ok as it was already pre-destined? No of course not, it would be wrong and i would have killed someone prematurely and for not good reason.

I'm out too, nice debating with you all :wave:

Bye, everyone.

Ciao Neal :p

So, how is everyone?

yeah im good.

Yourself?

I'm alright.

Not too much is going on. I'm grounded for the day.:(

It doesn't matter though because the kids I was going to hang out with aren't even coming up anymore.:lol:

Im watching Hallucino Genetics.


It is very good!

If you're talking about the Primus DVD, I saw some live videos from it. They were so good.

Makes me wish I hadn't missed them when they came here.:(

Hey guys. I'm about to go to a gog ol' gig.

A GOG! WHAT THE HELL'S A GOG!






Cya.

gog.