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metallicamaniac16 01-22-2005 09:24 PM

[QUOTE=JACKROXYOU]yea no prob

they were playin cards kirk won, cliff died cause of stupid rescue workers[/QUOTE]
How did Cliff die? I never found out. Bring on the flames!

JACKROXYOU 01-22-2005 09:24 PM

[QUOTE=RaTm_FaN]ya thats so stupid that he survived then died cuz they dropped it on him....**** them to hell cliff is an amazing bassist he shouldnt have died[/QUOTE]

happens to the best of us

JACKROXYOU 01-22-2005 09:26 PM

[QUOTE=metallicamaniac16]How did Cliff die? I never found out. Bring on the flames![/QUOTE]

pinned under a bus and they tried to get it off, crane slipped, then the black album

RaTm_FaN 01-22-2005 09:27 PM

[QUOTE=metallicamaniac16]How did Cliff die? I never found out. Bring on the flames![/QUOTE]
alright in the tour bus kirk wanted cliffs bunk...so they played cards and cliff won...so he got his bunk and got crushed by the bus wen it tipped over...but he didnt die and the rescue workers that were lifting the bus off him broke the crane or something and it feel and killed him...so basically he survived the crash then died cuz the ppl were dumbasses

JACKROXYOU 01-22-2005 09:29 PM

cliff won

o thought kirk won

metallicamaniac16 01-22-2005 09:30 PM

[QUOTE=RaTm_FaN]alright in the tour bus kirk wanted cliffs bunk...so they played cards and cliff won...so he got his bunk and got crushed by the bus wen it tipped over...but he didnt die and the rescue workers that were lifting the bus off him broke the crane or something and it feel and killed him...so basically he survived the crash then died cuz the ppl were dumbasses[/QUOTE]
Oh, I always thought it was a plane crash. Wait, that was Skynyrd

RaTm_FaN 01-22-2005 09:30 PM

[QUOTE=JACKROXYOU]cliff won

o thought kirk won[/QUOTE]
o maybe im mistaken then :confused: i thought cliff won

JACKROXYOU 01-22-2005 09:32 PM

[QUOTE=metallicamaniac16]Oh, I always thought it was a plane crash. Wait, that was Skynyrd[/QUOTE]

and rhoads

not stevie ray vaughan that was a copter

RaTm_FaN 01-22-2005 09:35 PM

[QUOTE=JACKROXYOU]and rhoads

not stevie ray vaughan that was a copter[/QUOTE]
do u ever wonder if maybe all these amazing musicians didnt die maybe rock would still be the same as it was in the 70 or 80

JACKROXYOU 01-22-2005 09:37 PM

i try not to

metallicamaniac16 01-22-2005 09:45 PM

[QUOTE=RaTm_FaN]do u ever wonder if maybe all these amazing musicians didnt die maybe rock would still be the same as it was in the 70 or 80[/QUOTE]
I wouldn't have a problem with that. :thumb:

RaTm_FaN 01-22-2005 09:51 PM

[QUOTE=metallicamaniac16]I wouldn't have a problem with that. :thumb:[/QUOTE]
lol im not sure to many ppl would but o well i guess u gotta face the facts that rock has been overpowered by pop-punk and rap :upset:

Lucky0889 01-22-2005 09:52 PM

No kidding... Rhoads would of definately been the BEST guitarist if it wasnt for that plance crash

RaTm_FaN 01-22-2005 09:52 PM

definetly dude

metallicamaniac16 01-22-2005 09:57 PM

[QUOTE=RaTm_FaN]lol im not sure to many ppl would but o well i guess u gotta face the facts that rock has been overpowered by pop-punk and rap :upset:[/QUOTE]
Yes, it's a shame, but what can you do?

I would have killed to see Rhoads live, but alas, he died before i was born.

Chu 01-22-2005 09:58 PM

Yeah, if Burton was alive, Metallica might still be making decent music!!!

metallicamaniac16 01-22-2005 10:01 PM

[QUOTE=Chu]Yeah, if Burton was alive, Metallica might still be making decent music!!![/QUOTE]
(sigh) Here we go again. Even if Burton was still alive, he's only one member of the band.

Chu 01-22-2005 10:15 PM

[QUOTE=metallicamaniac16](sigh) Here we go again.[/QUOTE]
lololol Sorry :D

Edit:: You have to agree the quality (Of all their music) would be better....

MoX_KIll 01-22-2005 10:18 PM

Nothings wrong with the way it is now...just Add some solo's

metallicamaniac16 01-22-2005 10:19 PM

[QUOTE=Chu]lololol Sorry :D

Edit:: You have to agree the quality (Of all their music) would be better....[/QUOTE]
I agree, the music probably would be better, but he was still only 1/4 of the band.

metallicamaniac16 01-22-2005 10:24 PM

[QUOTE=MoX_KIll]Nothings wrong with the way it is now...just Add some solo's[/QUOTE]
Gonna have to disagree with you there. I'm a fan of their old music, but I refuse to live in the past. They can keep makin whatever music they want.

Freezing Moon 01-22-2005 10:43 PM

[QUOTE=metallicamaniac16]Gonna have to disagree with you there. I'm a fan of their old music, but I refuse to live in the past. They can keep makin whatever music they want.[/QUOTE]


I couldn't agree more. If they want to make a certain style of music then let them. They haven't really been good in my mind since about the time I was born, so I can't really bi[size=2]tch[/size] about how they're not as good anymore.

JACKROXYOU 01-22-2005 11:11 PM

[QUOTE=Chu]Yeah, if Burton was alive, Metallica might still be making decent music!!![/QUOTE]

dude they never stopped playing decent music

metal_milita 01-22-2005 11:20 PM

Wow, the whole "cliff alive=better metallica" has been done before. And for those who went into momentary stages of coma during it, it is probably NOT true that Metallica would not have changed. Evidence (sort of) is an interview in which Cliff stated the band would be experimenting with different styles of music. The lyrics and songs would be a whole lot meaningful maybe, but the music would be different.
Besides, I liked Jason Newstead. To me, he was their best performer after 80's James. But I wasn't around to appreciate the awsomeness of Cliff and understand it, so I can't really talk too in-depth about it.

JACKROXYOU 01-22-2005 11:25 PM

jason is nothing compared to donkey kong(rob)

metal_milita 01-23-2005 12:02 AM

Obviously I'm not talking skill wise because Newstead can barley play fast and I've heard great things about Rob. I'm talking performance wise.

slaytallica250 01-23-2005 12:10 AM

Rob is freaking awesome. Seen him twice, and his energy level reminds me of Tom Araya, except it's not just head banging. He's running all over the stage, spinning in circles, playing on his back while kicking, crazy stuff like that. And he's one hell of a bass player. Anybody that can play Battery without a pick deserves a lot of respect.

As far as the whole "Cliff=better Metallica" thing goes, here's my take on it. Like everyone else said, he's only 1 guy. I've always liked Metallica no matter what. I like their old stuff more, but I like their new stuff in the sense that it's still a unique sound. I might just be too big of a Metallica fan, but I can hear 2 notes of the newer stuff and tell what it is right away. I guess my main point is that Metallica is good no matter who's playing the 4 string thing.

RiceMonster 01-23-2005 12:15 AM

[QUOTE=JACKROXYOU]dude they never stopped playing decent movie[/QUOTE]
Thats more a matter of opinion or maybe fanboyism. Not to say your a Metallica fanboy.

^Dream~Theater^ 01-23-2005 01:21 AM

[QUOTE=JACKROXYOU]jason is nothing compared to donkey kong(rob)[/QUOTE]
Newsted is fairly good

Chu 01-23-2005 02:19 AM

[QUOTE=metal_milita]Wow, the whole "cliff alive=better metallica" has been done before. And for those who went into momentary stages of coma during it, it is probably NOT true that Metallica would not have changed. Evidence (sort of) is an interview in which Cliff stated the band would be experimenting with different styles of music. The lyrics and songs would be a whole lot meaningful maybe, but the music would be different.
Besides, I liked Jason Newstead. To me, he was their best performer after 80's James. But I wasn't around to appreciate the awsomeness of Cliff and understand it, so I can't really talk too in-depth about it.[/QUOTE]
I understand the music would have changed, but it would have changed for the better.
And yes, Jason Newstead was **** amazing, and very much so under appreciated by Metallica.
I personally believe they should have given him some more freedom and allowed him to write more stuff, I think maybe that's why I dislike recent Metallica (I guess since Load more then the ...AJFA or Self-Titled). But meh, they did what they did, maybe Rob will write some new material. :)

Lars_ironcobra_doublepedal 01-23-2005 04:20 AM

I cant say that with Burton Metallica would be better because Jason is a very good bassist and he left Metallica because he stopped liking their music.

mattylee7575 01-23-2005 05:53 AM

SKOM rocks!!!!!!! Best music film ever

Wat do u lot think

shadow_stalker 01-23-2005 06:38 AM

[QUOTE=Chu]Yeah, if Burton was alive, Metallica might still be making decent music!!![/QUOTE]

there is no such thing as crap music, there is music you like and music you dislike

houses_of_holy 01-23-2005 06:54 AM

[QUOTE=mattylee7575]SKOM rocks!!!!!!! Best music film ever

Wat do u lot think[/QUOTE]
Yeh cant wait for DVD

Burdcheese 01-23-2005 01:10 PM

[QUOTE=mattylee7575]SKOM rocks!!!!!!! Best music film ever

Wat do u lot think[/QUOTE]

Better than Spinal Tap???

Seriously though, I liked it a lot, and I'll probably be getting it on DVD.


Though I say that about lots of things :upset:

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JACKROXYOU 01-23-2005 01:48 PM

[QUOTE=EddieVanHalen769]Thats more a matter of opinion or maybe fanboyism. Not to say your a Metallica fanboy.[/QUOTE]

dont worry i only like metallica now as long as they put on a good live show

i only buy albums if they're good, which is why i dont have reload or st.anger

Joe 01-23-2005 01:49 PM

i haven't seen SKOM, i wanna get it though

[QUOTE]Newsted is fairly good[/QUOTE]

skill--
Rob>Jason>Cliff

Jason is fairly good, but he uses a pick. Rob is just amazing. Cliff is original Metallica

Joe 01-23-2005 01:50 PM

[QUOTE=JACKROXYOU]dont worry i only like metallica now as long as they put on a good live show

i only buy albums if they're good, which is why i dont have reload or st.anger[/QUOTE]

same here, i don't have stuff past black album, but i'm about to buy load. and metallica always puts on a good show

JACKROXYOU 01-23-2005 01:51 PM

yea when the shows stop bein good ill stop talkin about em

load is pretty good


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