I've tried learning several odd rhythm guitar parts off of CoB songs and they don't seem hard. With a band like this I'd much rather jump right to soloing, but I'm not quite a shredder.

[SIZE=1]But I'm close. \m/[/SIZE]

Time to learn me up some c[SIZE=2]u[/SIZE]nt-smashing Shadows Fall riffs!

I (heart) both of these bands! :eek:

[QUOTE=MRDuCran]I love hokehold too, I played it this morning before I went to work.

I think I can play about 80% of the songs on each album by Bodom, I completely whore them. I don't learn the solos if I can't play the solos perfectly just incase I build up sloppy technique at that specific thing.

I can play the rhythms of:

Lake Bodom
Warheart
Silent Night, Bodom Night
Bed of Razors
Towards Dead End
Black Widow
Children of Bodom
Downfall
Bodom After Midnight
Everytime I Die
Hate Me
Needled 24/7
Sixpounder
Chokehold
Bodom Beach Terror
Hate Crew Deathroll
Living Dead Beat
Are You Dead Yet
In Your Face

lol im sad :)[/QUOTE]

Yeah, Bodom Beach Terror is fun too! Although, I suck, and can't play solos. I am not fast enough I guess. I am still trying my best to build up speed, but I am not sure how. I can do easy sweep licks... I suck at legato. I can trem pick fast as hell, but my fingers don't move nearly as fast It's all too sloppy. Especially when after almost 4 years of playing, I am just learning to use my pinky.

I think Bodoms stuff is actually tricky to get perfect, and I always compare myself with the cd, meaning it's very tough trying to play things exactly like Alexi, and to be honest, I don't think many people would be able to do it. I've never heard any decent recordings of Bodom songs so I guess that means most other people find them hard too...

Time for me to cover a Bodom song and post it here?

[QUOTE=toaster135]Time for me to cover a Bodom song and post it here?[/QUOTE]Yeah sure?

I need to finish my Children of Decadence cover...

Hmm...Ok. A question.

In the Hate Me! solo during the first run there's a part that looks like...

E---17-18-20-22--
B-------------------

Should you play that with all four fingers or should you be cheap and play the A on the 22nd fret on B. I tried doing it with all four fingers and it's kind of tough but all I'd need to do would be to practice it.

Can anyone here play that solo? If so how do you play that part. Even if you can't you can still give advice.

[QUOTE=The Sandman]Hmm...Ok. A question.

In the Hate Me! solo during the first run there's a part that looks like...

E---17-18-20-22--
B-------------------

Should you play that with all four fingers or should you be cheap and play the A on the 22nd fret on B. I tried doing it with all four fingers and it's kind of tough but all I'd need to do would be to practice it.

Can anyone here play that solo? If so how do you play that part. Even if you can't you can still give advice.[/QUOTE]

It dosen't really matter how you play it... as long as it's the right note... unless you wan't to be exatacly like Alexi, then you would have to figure out how he plays it. But I mean whatever is the most comfortable.

At least in my opinion

I would have just done what was comfortable but I think it'd be good to get practice at using all four fingers. I'll see how hard it is to play with all four fingers around the correct speed after practising it for a while.

Generally no one can play too well with all four fingers on one string. It's highly likely Alexi either uses two strings like you said, or he slides up with his ring/pinkie finger.

I also have no idea which run you're talking about.. what's the play time at the point of that run?

[QUOTE=The Sandman]I would have just done what was comfortable but I think it'd be good to get practice at using all four fingers. I'll see how hard it is to play with all four fingers around the correct speed after practising it for a while.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, it doesn't matter as long as you're hitting the right note. But in my opinion, you should try to use four fingers, because if you practice it and you perfect it, than it will just mean you have improved. But, what's comfortable is good too.

[QUOTE=The Sandman]I would have just done what was comfortable but I think it'd be good to get practice at using all four fingers. I'll see how hard it is to play with all four fingers around the correct speed after practising it for a while.[/QUOTE]

I play almost everything with three fingers... I only use my pinkie if I really have to...

Some people say that's sloppy but I think if it sounds great and is comfertable to play... Then it works.

well in my opinoin if I may...you should practice chromatics up and down the fretboard starting slowly and faster as each of your fingers become more independant. Most people find it hard to to use the pinkey because i think it shares the same muscle to some degree with the third finger (ring) so practicing using chromatics can help develope the pinkys independeence. I use to practice chromatics everytime i pick up the guitar and it helped a lot. You should also try chromatic triplets and other sequences. This is what helped me.

[QUOTE=roulette dares 3]well in my opinoin if I may...you should practice chromatics up and down the fretboard starting slowly and faster as each of your fingers become more independant. Most people find it hard to to use the pinkey because i think it shares the same muscle to some degree with the third finger (ring) so practicing using chromatics can help develope the pinkys independeence. I use to practice chromatics everytime i pick up the guitar and it helped a lot. You should also try chromatic triplets and other sequences. This is what helped me.[/QUOTE]

I should really check into that.

Chromatics bore the f[size=2]u[/size]ck out of me. Same with other exercises like that.

I just pick up the guitar and play riffs and solos or something.

Well if that works for you. People shouldn't start playing super fast solos if they don't have the technical abilities yet. Playing fast is cool but playing sloppy will not impress anyone. I remeber when i started out playing i thought the end solo to mr.crowly by randy rhoads was the coolest and i learnt to play it. But it sounded **** and sloppy and that wasn't going to impress anyone. After about 1 month of chromtaics i nailed that solo. just a bit of inspiration...

I go through periods where I'll spend 30-60 minutes doing chromatics with a metronome. It's the holidays now so I'm starting to get back into my routine.

And yes, chromatics do help you get fast.

children of bodom are a really good band!! i have bestbreeder and half of hate crew deathroll and are you dead yet? what are their best albums and i will get them?

[QUOTE=The Sandman]I go through periods where I'll spend 30-60 minutes doing chromatics with a metronome. It's the holidays now so I'm starting to get back into my routine.

And yes, chromatics do help you get fast.[/QUOTE]

what are chromatics? because i am trying to get faster at the moment

Exercises that use all your fingers. I think.

eg.


D-------------------1-2-3-4
A----------1-2-3-4---------
E-1-2-3-4------------------ etc

Look around in the lessons section and there'll no doubt be stuff on building speed and the like.

[QUOTE=The Sandman]Exercises that use all your fingers. I think.

eg.


D-------------------1-2-3-4
A----------1-2-3-4---------
E-1-2-3-4------------------ etc

Look around in the lessons section and there'll no doubt be stuff on building speed and the like.[/QUOTE]

ok then thanks for that

well you sound like you don't know theory so i'll explain it the easiest way. A chromatic scale would include every note or fret on the fretboard so to practice using chromatics start anywhere on the fret board and play each finger consecutively one after another. Alternatively start at the first fret 1 2 3 4 on the low E string then the next string, the A string and up to the high e string and then move the first finger to the second fret and descend. This was the routine i ued evertime i picked up a guitar when i first strated out.

Chromatics are only helpfull for building strength and speed. There not really gonna help you with soloing that much.

[QUOTE=roulette dares 3]well you sound like you don't know theory so i'll explain it the easiest way. A chromatic scale would include every note or fret on the fretboard so to practice using chromatics start anywhere on the fret board and play each finger consecutively one after another. Alternatively start at the first fret 1 2 3 4 on the low E string then the next string, the A string and up to the high e string and then move the first finger to the second fret and descend. This was the routine i ued evertime i picked up a guitar when i first strated out.[/QUOTE]

hey thanks for that. i will practice up

You're right they aren't that useful. Check out Flight of the Bumblebee by Petrucci though. A fair bit of that is chromatics.

1234 on every string isn't even fully chromatic, it's half.
The chromatic scale starting on A would be:

E---------------------------------------------------1-2-3-4-5----
B-----------------------------------------2-3-4-5----------------
G-------------------------------2-3-4-5--------------------------
D---------------------3-4-5-6------------------------------------
A-----------4-5-6-7----------------------------------------------
E-5-6-7-8--------------------------------------------------------

...Just incase some of you didn't know, although that one would be harder to play fast.

I don't care for chromatics, except maybe for warming up. If you honestly want good finger independence, take piano lessons! There's nothing better for your finger control than piano, in my opinion.

I doa lot of scales and chromatics, and it's amazing how quickly your fingers can speed up just by doing chromatic stuff daily.

Unfortunately, school hit me hard this year, and I've been seriously reduced in my practice time. :(

If you want a workout try this:

[FONT="Courier New"]E||----------------------13--17--13------------------|
B||------------------15--------------15--------------|
G||--------------14----------------------14----------|
D||----------15------------------------------15------|
A||--12--17--------------------------------------17--|
E||--------------------------------------------------|



------------------13--17-T22--17--13-T22--18--13--|
--------------15----------------------------------|
----------14--------------------------------------|
------15------------------------------------------|
--17----------------------------------------------|
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-T22--18--13-T22--18--13--12--------||
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[QUOTE=repcak]i haven't learnt the whole song yet, but i too have problems with the beginning.

i always use my pinky; i.a.w.: i use all four fingers[/QUOTE]

I can play the whole thing perfectly (along with the cd)

It's just the first part of the solo I have trouble fingering


I also use all my fingers on the intro riff