[QUOTE=El_Shiznit]Yeah, I didn't feel like mentioning all their projects. I was getting tired writing what I already did.


3 was an estimate. But I think it's about right.

A Winter's Tale
Days Of The Phoenix
This Celluloid Dream

and I think that's about it. I don't think GNG is pop-punk to be honest. It's not all that different from something like The Nephilim. I'd put it under melodic hardcore.[/QUOTE]
I have never heard anyone refer to anything pre-STS as pop punk, so I was thinking "mainstream". DOTP I can see. This Celluloid Dream....not really. It's certainly more mainstream than the demo version, but I don't think it's in the ranks of MCR or Simple Plan or anything. Same with A Winter's Tale (except for the part about the demo)

it does annoy me how people consider pop punk = mainstream. AFI should be in the emo/hardcore thread IMO. they are Post-hardcore.

[QUOTE=maco]I have never heard anyone refer to anything pre-STS as pop punk, so I was thinking "mainstream". DOTP I can see. This Celluloid Dream....not really. It's certainly more mainstream than the demo version, but I don't think it's in the ranks of MCR or Simple Plan or anything. Same with A Winter's Tale (except for the part about the demo)[/QUOTE]
It's a common misconception that mainstream = pop-punk. However that is very wrong. I'm talking about pop-punk like The Adicts and Descendents.

MCR and Simple Plan are NOT pop-punk. That's why it's safe to say that AFI has pop-punk songs and none sound like those bands. Those bands are considered pop-rock/power pop.

Pop-punk is poppy punk. And that is more or less what the songs I listed are.

Hmmm theres a couple of songs on the first album that border on being pop punk...Rizzo in the Box and Dont Make Me Ill both have pretty poppy choruses.

[QUOTE=El_Shiznit]It's a common misconception that mainstream = pop-punk. However that is very wrong. I'm talking about pop-punk like The Adicts and Descendents.

MCR and Simple Plan are NOT pop-punk. That's why it's safe to say that AFI has pop-punk songs and none sound like those bands. Those bands are considered pop-rock/power pop.

Pop-punk is poppy punk. And that is more or less what the songs I listed are.[/QUOTE]
i would class simple plan as more of a 'boy band'. But bands like Blink, Greenday, MxPx even old Good Charlotte are pop-punk.
most punk bands nowadays are pop-punk. people say bands like Anti-Flag and NOFX are the new Sex Pistols or Ramones, but even A-F and NOFX are pop-punk

I like pop-influenced punk like The Undertones way more than anything particularly raw or hardcore, but when "pop-influenced" because "just pop", you get Greenday.

[QUOTE=El_Shiznit]It's a common misconception that mainstream = pop-punk. However that is very wrong. I'm talking about pop-punk like The Adicts and Descendents.

MCR and Simple Plan are NOT pop-punk. That's why it's safe to say that AFI has pop-punk songs and none sound like those bands. Those bands are considered pop-rock/power pop.

Pop-punk is poppy punk. And that is more or less what the songs I listed are.[/QUOTE]
I have to use a different set of language around people who know what they're talking about and those who watch MTV. I usually forget who's which. In fact, I think we went over this before. I asked my friend about emo and she went "ask val she knows everything about emo" so I asked for a band rec and what the band sounded like. She said some acoustic rock band O.o I was like "so....nothing like Fugazi?" and she went "Who's Fugazi" *slaps forehead* I've started to go "Wait wait! Real emo or what-gets-called-emo?" when people say "emo" now.

There's this chick on the bus who is always like "I'm not a poser, I'm a REAL punk!!!" even when people don't tell her she's a poser, and all she listens to is like, Slipknot and Evanescencse. And wrote ANARCHY on her shoes.

ANARCHY+evanescence= apocolypse

[QUOTE=Flagjacket]There's this chick on the bus who is always like "I'm not a poser, I'm a REAL punk!!!" even when people don't tell her she's a poser, and all she listens to is like, Slipknot and Evanescencse. And wrote ANARCHY on her shoes.[/QUOTE]
*poseur

[QUOTE=maco]*poseur[/QUOTE]
If you're British.

I hate i when people try to classify music as a certain genre it is useless. I just listen to music that sounds good.People who were dissing tiger army, i dissagree i think they write good phsycobilly songs. Also listen to the bass line in never die. Its got a cool walking styles blues line

[QUOTE=El_Shiznit]If you're British.[/QUOTE]
or American or ESL...
po·seur Audio pronunciation of "poseur" ( P ) Pronunciation Key (p-zr, pzr)
n.

One who affects a particular attribute, attitude, or identity to impress or influence others.

It's poser here in America. The -ur is a British thing, like 'colour'.

I live in Michigan and I spell it poseur.

Yeah, I'm in PA and my teachers corrected kids for spelling it "poser" before.

Though, personally, I do spell things like colour, honour, theatre, et cetera. But I know teachers have fixed spellings on that before.

[QUOTE=Flagjacket]There's this chick on the bus who is always like "I'm not a poser, I'm a REAL punk!!!" even when people don't tell her she's a poser, and all she listens to is like, Slipknot and Evanescencse. And wrote ANARCHY on her shoes.[/QUOTE]
BAHAHAHAHAHAHA best~! :lol:

are afi making a new album?

afi IS making a new album, due early next year.

[QUOTE=El_Shiznit]It's a common misconception that mainstream = pop-punk. However that is very wrong. I'm talking about pop-punk like The Adicts and Descendents.

MCR and Simple Plan are NOT pop-punk. That's why it's safe to say that AFI has pop-punk songs and none sound like those bands. Those bands are considered pop-rock/power pop.

Pop-punk is poppy punk. And that is more or less what the songs I listed are.[/QUOTE]

Hey Dustin, come here more often man.

I come here everyday (almost). I just post less.

Oh I see. Post more then :D

[QUOTE=El_Shiznit]I come here everyday (almost). I just post less.[/QUOTE]
there's never much interesting stuff going on here to post about

true.....hey maco go make a thread i'll post in it

...on WHAT?

[QUOTE=albert_bass]Oh I see. Post more then :D[/QUOTE]
I'll only post mainly in this thread and sometimes in hardcore. But I recently got soulseek back on my computer, so maybe you'll see me around more.

Afi are wicked awesome. davey should go back to singing the old way.

I've been getting into AFI's hardcore stuff alot more lately, it's pretty good.

im suprised this AFI thread lasted so long

[QUOTE=RetiredAt21]I've been getting into AFI's hardcore stuff alot more lately, it's pretty good.[/QUOTE]
Even after I started looking into a lot of hardcore, SYMAOYE still remains my favorite hardcore album.



[QUOTE=Skidmark Steve]im suprised this AFI thread lasted so long[/QUOTE]
To be honest, I am too. This thread is longer than the Official Against Me! thread, and with this post I am making now, it is the same length as the Official Streetlight thread.