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shadow_stalker 12-04-2004 07:16 AM

[QUOTE=kredkeee!]Would you do all four at once? :)[/QUOTE]

i can play paranoid on the guitar with just my left hand, i can play paranoid on the drums with my right hand and right foot

but then i have no hands left for bass :upset:

shadow_stalker 12-04-2004 07:17 AM

i never noticed how brilliant 'wheels of confusion' really is, i need to pay more attention to what im listening to

kredkeee! 12-04-2004 07:54 AM

it really is, but i think not the whole of it. just The Straightener, the second part of the whole song, the rest is good but i think its not as beautiful as lets say Snowblind or Anno Mundi....

shadow_stalker 12-04-2004 08:02 AM

why do they have second parts to their names, like jack the ripper/fairies wear boots?

kredkeee! 12-04-2004 08:11 AM

Dunno. It seems to me that those '2nd parts' are mostly instrumental as i reckon, and Sabbath didnt want them as separate songs bacause:
1. it would shorten the song (luke's wall war pigs, fairies wear boots...)
2. the instrumental song itself wouldnt be good by itself
3. those instrumentals just follow the theme of the whole song (ahhh thats why i'm in love vith War Pigs... :) )

hypocracy hater 12-04-2004 08:14 AM

any one else think that iommi screwed sabbath up

shadow_stalker 12-04-2004 08:14 AM

have you heard the version of warpigs on ozzy's the ozzman cometh cd?

shadow_stalker 12-04-2004 08:17 AM

[QUOTE=hypocracy hater]any one else think that iommi screwed sabbath up[/QUOTE]

at times i do, but then at other times i think "well if ozzy hadnt got fired then we wouldnt have got all of his brilliant solo albums"

i know there are probably other examples of sabbath being screwed up by iommi but still everything has kind of worked out for the best

kredkeee! 12-04-2004 08:21 AM

[QUOTE=shadow_stalker]have you heard the version of warpigs on ozzy's the ozzman cometh cd?[/QUOTE]
No. Isnt it the version called 'Walpurgis'? :) I like its lyrics since ive read them from black-sabbath.com...
Iommi didnt screw Sabbath up. I think he just wanted to try something new, and many of it came out as brillian albums. Though i like the oldest era of Sabbath the most, 'cos it was a lot darker and... menacing? yes that's the good word for it... :naughty:
alright gentleman im going now for i must learn :upset: :upset:

hypocracy hater 12-04-2004 08:21 AM

Just noticed something, Iommi stole the Paranoid riff from Page in Dazed and Confused

shadow_stalker 12-04-2004 08:27 AM

[QUOTE=kredkeee!]No. Isnt it the version called 'Walpurgis'? :) I like its lyrics since ive read them from black-sabbath.com...
Iommi didnt screw Sabbath up. I think he just wanted to try something new, and many of it came out as brillian albums. Though i like the oldest era of Sabbath the most, 'cos it was a lot darker and... menacing? yes that's the good word for it... :naughty:
alright gentleman im going now for i must learn :upset: :upset:[/QUOTE]


its just called warpigs, but its the basment tape from 1970 that was origionally called warpurgis

it also has a kick *** version of black sabbath on it :thumb:

shadow_stalker 12-04-2004 08:30 AM

[QUOTE=hypocracy hater]Just noticed something, Iommi stole the Paranoid riff from Page in Dazed and Confused[/QUOTE]

never heard that song, what year was it written in?

zeppelin cant really complain about people stealing songs though
*this is not an invitation to start an argument*

hypocracy hater 12-04-2004 08:37 AM

[QUOTE=shadow_stalker]never heard that song, what year was it written in?

zeppelin cant really complain about people stealing songs though
*this is not an invitation to start an argument*[/QUOTE]

Fair play, You need love by the muddy waters,

anyway, Zep in 68 and sabbath in 70, i think

shadow_stalker 12-04-2004 08:42 AM

if it was in 68 then it was before iommi made paranoid, oh well

shadow_stalker 12-04-2004 08:44 AM

this may sound negative but...

what is everyones 5 least favorite sabbath songs

mine are:
1. No stranger to love
2. FX
3. spiral architect
4. hard road
5. heaven and hell

unclebobscircus 12-04-2004 08:44 AM

Dazed And Confused was actually a Yardbirds song called I'm Confused, Jimmy just kept the song and changed it around a bit when he formed Zeppelin.

And, while they are similar, Paranoid and Dazed and Confused are two distinctly different songs.

hypocracy hater 12-04-2004 08:47 AM

My Favouritr sONGS ARE

1. Sweet Leaf
2. NIB
3. Hand of Doom
4. The Wizard
5. Black Sabbath

Sabbath pre 1974 > Sabbath post 74

shadow_stalker 12-04-2004 08:50 AM

[QUOTE=hypocracy hater]1. Sweet Leaf
2. NIB
3. Hand of Doom
4. The Wizard
5. Black Sabbath

Sabbath pre 1974 > Sabbath post 74[/QUOTE]


i almost had a heart attack when i saw that list! 3 of my favourite sabbath songs are on there (not to mention one of them is my 2nd favourite sabbath song ever)

oh well everyone is entitled to their own opinion

hypocracy hater 12-04-2004 08:53 AM

[QUOTE=shadow_stalker]i almost had a heart attack when i saw that list! 3 of my favourite sabbath songs are on there (not to mention one of them is my 2nd favourite sabbath song ever)

oh well everyone is entitled to their own opinion[/QUOTE]

oh sorry, cant read, thought You said, Favorite sabbath songs

shadow_stalker 12-04-2004 09:03 AM

ok, but while we are at this point im gonna put my top 5

1. paranoid
2. NIB
3. iron man
4. hand of doom
5. the wizard

RockerGav 12-04-2004 11:01 AM

I don't know enough to comment on my LEAST favourite Sabbath song, but my top 5 is probably:

1. Sweet Leaf
2. NIB
3. Sabbath Bloody Sabbath
4. Supernaut
5. War Pigs

shadow_stalker 12-04-2004 02:35 PM

bugger i forgot war pigs

Brew 12-04-2004 02:58 PM

Least fav. list

1. Paranoid
2. No Stranger to Love
3. Trashed
4. FX
5. E5150

Top 5 list.

1. Air Dance
2. Supernaut
3. Tomorrow's Dream
4. Solitude
5. Megalomania

shadow_stalker 12-04-2004 02:59 PM

[QUOTE=Lord Brummington]Human Fortress
Ensiferum
Rhapsody
Dream Evil
Helloween
King Diamond (not really power metal but they kinda fit the genre)

If you can find the Power Metal thread, give it a read.[/QUOTE]

didnt like human fortress much
ensifreum's vocalist sounded too much like angella gosso (sp) from arch enemy
dream evil were brilliant (gonna get one of their cds next saturday)

not sure about others


thanks for all the suggestions andy :thumb:


power metal bands are quite big on the whole swords and things of that description

shadow_stalker 12-04-2004 03:00 PM

[QUOTE=Lord Brummington]1. Paranoid[/QUOTE]


cant stop the twitching

Brew 12-04-2004 03:00 PM

[QUOTE=shadow_stalker]its just called warpigs, but its the basment tape from 1970 that was origionally called warpurgis

it also has a kick *** version of black sabbath on it :thumb:[/QUOTE]

Thats the original/demo version of Black Sabbath with the added verse.

Warpurlgis is the demo of War Pigs, with different lyrics and some lyrics in a different order.

Brew 12-04-2004 03:01 PM

[QUOTE=shadow_stalker]cant stop the twitching[/QUOTE]

:lol:

/puts on flame protective hat

I want a n00b to come in and flame me for not liking Paranoid.

shadow_stalker 12-04-2004 03:01 PM

[QUOTE=Lord Brummington]Thats the original/demo version of Black Sabbath with the added verse.

Warpurlgis is the demo of War Pigs, with different lyrics and some lyrics in a different order.[/QUOTE]


the demo versions have a really cool sound on them, but i cant describe it

Brew 12-04-2004 03:01 PM

[QUOTE=shadow_stalker]didnt like human fortress much
ensifreum's vocalist sounded too much like angella gosso (sp) from arch enemy
dream evil were brilliant (gonna get one of their cds next saturday)

not sure about others


thanks for all the suggestions andy :thumb:


power metal bands are quite big on the whole swords and things of that description[/QUOTE]

Check out Falconer, they're pretty good.

Ensiferum are probably one of the only bands I can tolerate with the cookie-monster style vocals.

shadow_stalker 12-04-2004 03:05 PM

d[I][U][/U][/I]amn falconer dont have downloads on the site *shakes fist*


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