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Tyler 10-15-2007 09:56 AM

ugh, i have class in 40 minutes but I'm still just proofing this essay

I did get a cheque for 1800$ in the mail today, though. So that's cool.

superpeer 10-15-2007 09:59 AM

I don't have any lectures today.

Tyler 10-15-2007 09:59 AM

I have a lab and then a BS lecture that I might skip. I'm ****ing tired

gmoneyguy 10-15-2007 10:06 AM

I have to turn in a philosophy paper, take a test, then sit through a lecture tonight. All of which is in one class.

NP: Ulver - Silence Teaches You to Sing

Angmar 10-15-2007 10:18 AM

[QUOTE=Nostalgia;15415171]I woke up late and missed school, so not too good.[/QUOTE]

I'm staying home because my parents said I could :o

Stoic 10-15-2007 10:23 AM

^lol, used to do that.

Angmar 10-15-2007 10:38 AM

My dog died yesterday so they said I could if I wanted, I didn't get any of my homework done so I took the offer.

Darkness 10-15-2007 10:43 AM

I believe my dog is dying too... he has some kind of (what one vet believes) to be a cancerous lump-growth in his mouth. Whenever he eats something hard it pops and bleeds really really bad. One vet believes its just a tooth problem though, which I kind of think it might be because one of his fangs overlaps and goes outside his mouth now.

He's pushing 16 years old.

Angmar 10-15-2007 10:44 AM

What kind of dog is he?

Darkness 10-15-2007 10:45 AM

Half Husky, half German Shepard.

Friendliest dog you'll ever meet.

Stoic 10-15-2007 10:46 AM

[QUOTE]Friendliest dog you'll ever meet.[/QUOTE]

Isn't it funny that all pet owners say the same thing about their animals? :p

Darkness 10-15-2007 10:47 AM

:lol: That's true. But this dog rarely ever barks, if someone with a gun came to my house, he'd walk up to him and start rubbing his head against him begging to be pet. He's such a wuss.

Bartender 10-15-2007 10:51 AM

16 years old is a pretty good age for a dog, at least.

[QUOTE=Diabolus in Musica;15415235]I have to turn in a philosophy paper[/QUOTE]

On what?

gmoneyguy 10-15-2007 10:51 AM

Mind and Body.

Darkness 10-15-2007 10:55 AM

[QUOTE=Bartender;15415331]16 years old is a pretty good age for a dog, at least.[/QUOTE]

It really is. I guess leftover pasta and chicken bones really are healthy for a dog.

superpeer 10-15-2007 11:01 AM

I have an obligatory class that is philosophical, more or less. It's about life and ways of living, in a religious manner, but also more general than that, including a number of philosophies. Later on we have to choose modules and pick a religion or atheism (well, not exactly atheism, but I don't know the English word for it <-<).

Right now I'm still in the general lectures, though. It's quite interesting, last week we took a look at science and life experience. How knowledged people choose to ignore the chemical origin of feelings and how weird creationists are. Stuff like that.

It's good, but if only it weren't a 2/3 hour class at 4PM after what is already my longest day. But oh well. We might learn something.

Jom 10-15-2007 11:08 AM

[QUOTE=Darkness;15415311]Half Husky, half German Shepard.

Friendliest dog you'll ever meet.[/QUOTE]

For a dog of that size, sixteen years is incredible. Typically, the sporting and working groups of dogs have a mean age of 11-13 years. It's very rare for a large dog to advance past 13.

My Mondays are barf-inducing and my busiest days. Also, annotated bibliographies in advance are stupid. Why can't we just turn a works cited in when we turn in the paper? :(

gmoneyguy 10-15-2007 11:09 AM

[QUOTE=Superpeer;15415360]I have an obligatory class that is philosophical, more or less. It's about life and ways of living, in a religious manner, but also more general than that, including a number of philosophies. Later on we have to choose modules and pick a religion or atheism (well, not exactly atheism, but I don't know the English word for it <-<).

Right now I'm still in the general lectures, though. It's quite interesting, last week we took a look at science and life experience. How knowledged people choose to ignore the chemical origin of feelings and how weird creationists are. Stuff like that.

It's good, but if only it weren't a 2/3 hour class at 4PM after what is already my longest day. But oh well. We might learn something.[/QUOTE]
Agnostic?

The paper I wrote uses the chemical reactions in the brain to help argue that there is no separation of mind and body.

Kage 10-15-2007 11:10 AM

Yeah if you're a scientist, maybe.

gmoneyguy 10-15-2007 11:11 AM

[QUOTE=Kage;15415387]Yeah if you're a scientist, maybe.[/QUOTE]

What do you mean?

Stoic 10-15-2007 11:12 AM

I shall not form an opinion unless somewhere proves how thoughts are produced from something physical like the brain.

gmoneyguy 10-15-2007 11:17 AM

MRIs have shown when a person sees something, or is asked to think about some thing different areas in the brain light showing activity in the area that is responsible for stimuli. When you see something your occipital lobe will light if you are hooked to an EEG or MRI.

superpeer 10-15-2007 11:18 AM

[QUOTE]Agnostic?

The paper I wrote uses the chemical reactions in the brain to help argue that there is no separation of mind and body.[/QUOTE]

Nah, not agnostic.

Yeah, maybe. The thing the guy was saying is that even though we know that when we're in love or have a crush on someone or whatever you want to call it, we are being fooled by chemicals, we choose to ignore that in order to enjoy the bliss of mind drugs.

But then, he also suggested that if there were a neurological machine that could stimulate the brain so that we would feel like a great novelist, a good lover, a happy parent, whatever; but that we would much rather [I]actually[/I] be those things, because we are a very purpose driven being.

I planned to read a book in said lecture, but in the end I listened to everything he said, I was quite surprised, haha. I'm really in the wrong thing, I find my philosophy and anthropology and psychology stuff that I take as compulsory or extra classes more interesting than my linguistics and literature classes. :p

Maybe it's because the former might not be as advanced as the classes that a major in those things would get and it's the refreshing and basic element in it that interests me, I don't know. =(

Stoic 10-15-2007 11:19 AM

@DiM
How about the random thoughts crossing the mind out of nowhere and how about common sense? :\

NP The Chasm - Storm of Revelations (damn, that song is top)

superpeer 10-15-2007 11:20 AM

Maybe random thoughts aren't as random as you would think them to be. The power of association is very extensive. :)

gmoneyguy 10-15-2007 11:21 AM

Secular Humanist?

I would say the chemicals are too strong to simply ignore. Philosophy is definitely interesting but it can get mind bending at points (which I enjoy personally).

superpeer 10-15-2007 11:25 AM

Yeah, that might be it. Humanist, in any way. Hmm, wonder why I couldn't think of that word. :\ Brains. Weird things.

Sometimes I think I'm in the wrong major (English-Dutch, literature and linguistics), but then I think that I might grow to dislike any major, eventually. I prefer reading up on things on my own, it's my punx anti-authority character; methinks.

gmoneyguy 10-15-2007 11:26 AM

I could never major in linguistics, to boring for my tastes.

[QUOTE=Stoic;15415417]@DiM
How about the random thoughts crossing the mind out of nowhere and how about common sense? :\

NP The Chasm - Storm of Revelations (damn, that song is top)[/QUOTE]

Those random thoughts were already there from external stimuli. One of your 5 sense probably triggered it. Common Sense is learned. Children learn to stay away for stoves either because the were burned once or their parents taught them not too. DNA also has "instructions" controls involuntary operations for the brain. Those involuntary operations came from many years evolution.

Bartender 10-15-2007 11:28 AM

[QUOTE=Diabolus in Musica;15415334]Mind and Body.[/QUOTE]

Sounds joyous, good luck with it.

I hated that subject, at least in the way it was presented in lectures of that name; when it came up in relation to other stuff it was usually a lot better.

gmoneyguy 10-15-2007 11:30 AM

[QUOTE=Bartender;15415448]Sounds joyous, good luck with it.

I hated that subject, at least in the way it was presented in lectures of that name; when it came up in relation to other stuff it was usually a lot better.[/QUOTE]
Next week we are going to get into religious philosophy. I'm sure mind and body is going to come back up.

We starting Ethics tonight after our test. I'm looking forward to it.

Kage 10-15-2007 11:33 AM

The mind is the body
The mind is not the body
The body is the mind
The body is not the mind

Technology is an extension of the mind
Technology is an extension of the body
Technology is not an extension of the body

Bartender 10-15-2007 11:35 AM

Philosophy of religion was always fun. Part metaphsyics, part epistemology, part ethics, a lot of the time. I liked all those subjects when they were separate as well, though, which probably helped.

Stoic 10-15-2007 11:35 AM

[QUOTE=Diabolus in Musica;15415442]
Those random thoughts were already there from external stimuli. One of your 5 sense probably triggered it. Common Sense is learned. Children learn to stay away for stoves either because the were burned once or their parents taught them not too. DNA also has "instructions" controls involuntary operations for the brain. Those involuntary operations came from many years evolution.[/QUOTE]

Determinism. The scariest of all. But no, I'm not one of those people who feel shattered with the idea of actually not having freedom of will. But I tend to think determinism over-simplifies things. Sometimes I WANT to believe that we're part of a much more fascinating world :\

[QUOTE=Superpeer;15415439]
Sometimes I think I'm in the wrong major (English-Dutch, literature and linguistics), but then I think that I might grow to dislike any major, eventually. I prefer reading up on things on my own, it's my punx anti-authority character; methinks.[/QUOTE]

Yes this probably explains why you like the classes YOU picked. This happens to me somehow when I find a subject extremely interesting but when I have to study it for the exams somehow it seems dull :\

Kage 10-15-2007 11:36 AM

Nothing like a good ol' fashioned exam to make you hate a subject you're normally interested in.

gmoneyguy 10-15-2007 11:39 AM

[QUOTE=Stoic;15415484]Determinism. The scariest of all. But no, I'm not one of those people who feel shattered with the idea of actually not having freedom of will. But I tend to think determinism over-simplifies things. Sometimes I WANT to believe that we're part of a much more fascinating world :\[/QUOTE]
Thats not quite determinism, I would say Materialism. I see no logic in "pre-established harmony."

I do find the world fascinating because there is so much we don't know. The probability of supreme being creating the universe is very low, and that itself is amazing to me.

Kingofdudes 10-15-2007 11:51 AM

[QUOTE=Diabolus in Musica;15415174]Your musical tastes have become shameful :(

Why have you given up the metal?[/QUOTE]

stfu noob.

IM me next time you are on AIM, you would like it

gmoneyguy 10-15-2007 11:54 AM

email it to me I wont be home until at least 9.

Kingofdudes 10-15-2007 11:57 AM

I DON'T FEEL LIKE IT! **** STOP PESTERING ME!

Jom, whats a good Bob Seger album to start on?

NP:Thrice - Digital Sea

Kage 10-15-2007 11:58 AM

Should I take a nap? y/n

superpeer 10-15-2007 11:58 AM

Sleep is for the weak.


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