[QUOTE=azbassman]There playing up in Tempe on March 15...im going to try hard as hell to get tickets to that.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, I wish I could go soo badly but I'm going to be out of town. Sucks even more because I was going to see them last October too, bought my ticket and everything, but they cancelled

Cool review, Cain. I'd love to see The Amen Corner live.. has anyone here seen them with DT yet? I'm going on the 28th.

[QUOTE=Toaster]Cool review, Cain. I'd love to see The Amen Corner live.. has anyone here seen them with DT yet? I'm going on the 28th.[/QUOTE]
Where in Canada are you ? I'm seeing them on the 7th in Saskatoon

[QUOTE=ok lateralus]Yeah, I wish I could go soo badly but I'm going to be out of town. Sucks even more because I was going to see them last October too, bought my ticket and everything, but they cancelled[/QUOTE]
Got lucky....the day there here is the one week we have school off. :thumb:

[QUOTE=^Dream~Theater^]Where in Canada are you ? I'm seeing them on the 7th in Saskatoon[/QUOTE]

Ontario.

[QUOTE=Cain]ATTN: OPETH CAREER RETROSPECTIVE CONCERT REVIEW AND SETLIST

Great show, all things considered. The experience tonight was considerably more novel and artistic than the last Opeth show in New York a few months ago. As it took place in Town Hall, a high-class venue just off of Times Square, the show was seated and built around a "sit and appreciate the artistry" motif: there was only standing in the bottom seats, there were no pits, and barely anyone could stop gazing at Opeth onstage long enough to headbang. To a degree, I really missed the unpleasentness of being crammed up against untold bodies between the barrier and the crowd at the last show, for all its discomfort I loved the rush it gave to the music.

Since I was sitting for the whole show, encore excepted, I noticed that this show took on a decidedly head-scratching, analytical air. No doubt that was Opeth's intention, but given their decision to not only play a career retrospective but to deliberately pick obscure, non-fan-favorites I confess myself a teeny bit disappointed. I wanted to get lost in the true highlights off of Morningrise and so on, given that songs off those records are never played anyway. Even so, the power of Opeth live is mind-boggling: one of the benefits to this set construction was the way we could see Opeth's evolution and the true breadth of their compositional artistry, and when confronted with the sheer gravity and volume of music Opeth have created over their twelve-year career, I am amazed. All told, this was an excellent show.

Small critiques and comments of special note: I would have easily taken Black Rose Immortal or two different songs over the twenty-five-million-minute version of "Closure" they did this time around. It was the only point during the concert where I became outright bored, although the drummer and Per had fantastic extended solos in the song. The ballerinas were a rather apathetic experience for me: I was hoping for something awesome, but I'm sorry, there was nothing to convert me to dance's brand of art in this performance set to "Deliverance." Per Wiberg's keyboards were even more well-integrated with the band's sound than at the last show: his Hammond organ sounds and E-bow simulations caused a lot of their darker numbers to increase the ambience and musical depth tenfold. I am very impressed with how well he is becoming an asset to Opeth with his keyboards: very often the notes he played sounded almost like screams, which made the majority of the heavy music INCREDIBLY eerie, and very artsy and progressive-sounding. I was a little disappointed by the setlist, but I understand that the point of the retrospective was to pick more obscure songs rather than fan favorites.

SETLIST FOR THE RETROSPECTIVE:

ORCHID: Under the Weeping Moon
MORNINGRISE: The Night and the Silent Water
MY ARMS, YOUR HEARSE: The Amen Corner
STILL LIFE: White Cluster
BLACKWATER PARK: The Leper Affinity
DELIVERANCE: A Fair Judgement, Deliverance
DAMNATION: Windowpane, Closure
GHOST REVERIES: Ghost of Perdition, Baying of the Hounds, The Grand Conjuration
ENCORE: Demon of the Fall[/QUOTE]


Yeah they pretty much did the same thing with Closure when I saw them in 2004, and admittably was the boring spot of the concert, but they didn't play anything from Orchid, Morningrise or My Arms Your Hearse at that show. It was still a good show, but it didn't have as powerful of a track list as I was expecting. The only chance I have of seeing Opeth is on March 4th, in Minneapolis. Still waiting on a few people to decide, hopefully by monday, then I'm going.

By the way, Cain, good review of the show.

[QUOTE=Flynn]Yeah they pretty much did the same thing with Closure when I saw them in 2004, and admittably was the boring spot of the concert,[/QUOTE]

I think the extended version is a live-must thing going on. I dig the Lamentations version...

:upset:

I mean... It's good right!?!?

:moreupzet:

[QUOTE=Flynn]Yeah they pretty much did the same thing with Closure when I saw them in 2004, and admittably was the boring spot of the concert, but they didn't play anything from Orchid, Morningrise or [B]My Arms Your Hearse[/B] at that show. It was still a good show, but it didn't have as powerful of a track list as I was expecting. The only chance I have of seeing Opeth is on March 4th, in Minneapolis. Still waiting on a few people to decide, hopefully by monday, then I'm going.

By the way, Cain, good review of the show.[/QUOTE]
Are you excluding Demon for obvious reasons, or didn't they play that either?

[QUOTE=Deth]Are you excluding Demon for obvious reasons, or didn't they play that either?[/QUOTE]


No. They didn't play anything from any of those albums, and they only played White Cluster from Still Life. The rest of the show was basically the Deliverance/Damnation works, and some of Blackwater Park.

That's really strange. I would be slightly disappointed.

Yeah I was kinda disapointed, but the show was really great. I used to hit 3-4 concerts a year, and that was definitely the best concert I've ever been to. If everything goes according to plan, I'll be able to see them March 4th with that awesome setlist!

I've been on such an Orchid binge lately. :( In Mist she Was Standing is such a musical orgasm.

/random courtesy post

[QUOTE=Flynn]When I say "Best" I mean Opinions. Opeth Is my "Best" Always will be.

If you never heard Opeth before I will give a list of songs to DL.


Black Rose Immortal :thumb:
To Bid You Farewell
The Twilight Is My Robe
Karma
When
Credence
Face of Melinda
The Moor
Still Day Beneath The Sun
Advent
The Night And The Silent Water
In Mist She Was Standing
The Apostle In Triumph
Hope Leaves
The Masters Apprentices
Bleak :thumb:
Serenity Painted Death :evil:
April Ethereal
Demon Of The Fall



:Note: These tracks are in no order of Importance or favor.
Except Black Rose Immortal :)[/QUOTE]

*clutches chest* you've got to include The Drapery Falls on there! <3 that song

:lol: That's one old post there. Welcome to the thread buddy.

Bleak > The Drapery Falls anyway :p

ahh the memories :')

Hey Flynn, I know this is old as hell, but this post interested me:

[QUOTE=Flynn]I despise Metallica, In fact I LOATHE them. I should'nt capitalize the "m" in metallica anymore cause that would give that name respect...I would want that now...[/QUOTE]
Why the M(m?)etallica hate?

The only Opeth album im missing now is Ghost Reveries. Thought id get the others before Ghost Reveries. Favorite album-Still Life, Song-Serenity Painted Death.

[QUOTE=ShadowsFallen]I've been on such an Orchid binge lately. :( In Mist she Was Standing is such a musical orgasm.

/random courtesy post[/QUOTE]

Such a great song.

/puts it on

I want that album badly :(

[QUOTE=ShadowsFallen]Hey Flynn, I know this is old as hell, but this post interested me:


Why the M(m?)etallica hate?[/QUOTE]


I can't remember that post, It was probably when I first started posting here and just posted my thoughts to let people know how I felt about them, I don't know. What does it matter though? I hang around people that listen to Rap and say they can't stand Opeth, laugh at their music because it's not for them. I respect that because they're into their own mind-set. I have never tried to steer them off of what they like, never once tried to prove (elitism) Opeth's music is far better then anything in their CD collection or anything they've ever heard. I don't pry. But I [I]do[/I] give examples.

I don't expect them or anyone else to automattically get into my kind of music because [I]I[/I] think it's better then what they listen to, even though our tastes are night and day. I don't care who hates what, who likes what, etc etc...Everyone has their own opinions on all kinds of different things...to each his own. I can't stand Metallica. < Period. I grew up with that music, and yes I definitely respect them a [I]lot[/I] for what they've achieved in their life in the Metal scene, yet I still have my reasons why I despise that band.

I have no idea what ignited the fire in my head to post that, but I have to stand by it. To be fair, I will say it was an inappropriate post.

[QUOTE=Flynn]I can't remember that post, It was probably when I first started posting here and just posted my thoughts to let people know how I felt about them, I don't know. What does it matter though? I hang around people that listen to Rap and say they can't stand Opeth, laugh at their music because it's not for them. I respect that because they're into their own mind-set. I have never tried to steer them off of what they like, never once tried to prove (elitism) Opeth's music is far better then anything in their CD collection or anything they've ever heard. I don't pry. But I [I]do[/I] give examples.

I don't expect them or anyone else to automattically get into my kind of music because [I]I[/I] think it's better then what they listen to, even though our tastes are night and day. I don't care who hates what, who likes what, etc etc...Everyone has their own opinions on all kinds of different things...to each his own. I can't stand Metallica. < Period. I grew up with that music, and yes I definitely respect them a [I]lot[/I] for what they've achieved in their life in the Metal scene, yet I still have my reasons why I despise that band.

I have no idea what ignited the fire in my head to post that, but I have to stand by it. To be fair, I will say it was an inappropriate post.[/QUOTE]


I agree. I have many friends who listen to rap or pop punk or any other genre besides metal. I dont really care. It would be great if we all listened to metal, but then we wouldnt be unique.

I wish i could have went to that Opeth show that Cain went to.

[QUOTE=Flynn]I can't remember that post, It was probably when I first started posting here and just posted my thoughts to let people know how I felt about them, I don't know. What does it matter though? I hang around people that listen to Rap and say they can't stand Opeth, laugh at their music because it's not for them. I respect that because they're into their own mind-set. I have never tried to steer them off of what they like, never once tried to prove (elitism) Opeth's music is far better then anything in their CD collection or anything they've ever heard. I don't pry. But I [I]do[/I] give examples.

I don't expect them or anyone else to automattically get into my kind of music because [I]I[/I] think it's better then what they listen to, even though our tastes are night and day. I don't care who hates what, who likes what, etc etc...Everyone has their own opinions on all kinds of different things...to each his own. I can't stand Metallica. < Period. I grew up with that music, and yes I definitely respect them a [I]lot[/I] for what they've achieved in their life in the Metal scene, yet I still have my reasons why I despise that band.

I have no idea what ignited the fire in my head to post that, but I have to stand by it. To be fair, I will say it was an inappropriate post.[/QUOTE]
I'm the same way. In my environment, metal is an extreme minority among the people who listen to music (which is virtually everyone). I'm the complete opposite of 99% of the people I deal with daily, but I don't like to be condescending or elitistic towards their taste. Opeth or any metal band is not factually better than any rap or pop, it all comes down to personal preference. I do try to expose people to metal when I can though, because I think the music is much better than what the mainstream gives it credit for. I'll give recommendations and CD's for people to listen to, but I don't criticize anyone who says metal isn't for them or doesn't like what I recommend.

For some reason I always envisioned metalheads to be nicer guys. Sure, you can be a badass. Listen to the most extreme music ever written, walk around in black with bullet belts and long hair, flaunting some obscure band on your shirt. I love the metal image. But when people expect metal guys to be very cold, inconsiderate people I like to prove them wrong. No negative behavior should be permanently attached to a genre of music. It's always funny to surprise people by dressing like a stereotypical metalhead and then turning out to be a very polite person.

We've all had those days though. You look back on old posts and wonder what the hell you were thinking. If I could cover up my past here I think I would get a lot more respect from other users, haha.

I've found that alot of metalheads tend to be pretty cool and laid back, especially those who are also musicians. One theory is that the music serves as an effective outlet for alot of the kinds of thoughts and emotions that many people repress or express in destructive ways. I do know that nothing calms me down when I'm upset or cheers me up when I'm depressed like a good ole dose of heavy metal. :cool:

[QUOTE=ShadowsFallen]I'm the same way. In my environment, metal is an extreme minority among the people who listen to music (which is virtually everyone). I'm the complete opposite of 99% of the people I deal with daily, but I don't like to be condescending or elitistic towards their taste. Opeth or any metal band is not factually better than any rap or pop, it all comes down to personal preference. I do try to expose people to metal when I can though, because I think the music is much better than what the mainstream gives it credit for. I'll give recommendations and CD's for people to listen to, but I don't criticize anyone who says metal isn't for them or doesn't like what I recommend.

For some reason I always envisioned metalheads to be nicer guys. Sure, you can be a badass. Listen to the most extreme music ever written, walk around in black with bullet belts and long hair, flaunting some obscure band on your shirt. I love the metal image. But when people expect metal guys to be very cold, inconsiderate people I like to prove them wrong. No negative behavior should be permanently attached to a genre of music. It's always funny to surprise people by dressing like a stereotypical metalhead and then turning out to be a very polite person.

We've all had those days though. You look back on old posts and wonder what the hell you were thinking. If I could cover up my past here I think I would get a lot more respect from other users, haha.[/QUOTE]


Very well said. I agree with everything. I am a completely different person than I was 2 years ago, and yes, If I could cover up my past here, to get out of the fake threads on my account, I'd get more respect from other users as well.

[QUOTE=Det_Nosnip]I've found that alot of metalheads tend to be pretty cool and laid back, especially those who are also musicians. One theory is that the music serves as an effective outlet for alot of the kinds of thoughts and emotions that many people repress or express in destructive ways. I do know that nothing calms me down when I'm upset or cheers me up when I'm depressed like a good ole dose of heavy metal. :cool:[/QUOTE]
There are plenty that are laid back, but for every one of those there's an anal-retentive elitist :\

Although the elitists are probably disproportionately represented on MX.

I just busted out Orchid again last night. Apostle is probably my favorite song on there, but for the most part when I listen to it all I can think about it how it makes me want to listen to Morningrise...the albums are so different it's like Morningrise is the album by a great band and Orchid is a bunch of amateurs trying to rip them off. I'm so glad BRI ended up on Morningrise instead of Orchid, the changes that took place between those albums were only good.
(sorry Flynn :\ )

Opeth is probably my favorite band. There's music, and then there is art. Opeth is one of those few bands that tread across the line into art.

Omfg That's So Sentimental.

Opeth Is Freaking Lame You Queer, Omfg They Can Play Music From The Middle Ages As Well As Generic Melodic Death Metal Omfg!

Definately Art.

[QUOTE=MM23]Opeth is probably my favorite band. There's music, and then there is art. Opeth is one of those few bands that tread across the line into art.[/QUOTE]


Well said. They're very artistic indeed.


[QUOTE=Eleventeen]Omfg That's So Sentimental.

Opeth Is Freaking Lame You Queer, Omfg They Can Play Music From The Middle Ages As Well As Generic Melodic Death Metal Omfg!

Definately Art.[/QUOTE]


Defin[B]i[/B]tely Art.

Haha grammer nazy.

Anyhow, on the metalhead department... I think I've turned into a nicer person since I got into the more... brutal shades of music, say metal, say Rock. Aside from a number of facts and situations I don't really think is necessary to expose at the moment, I had to change my mind on how I treat people and how I am portrayed. After all, all I have is the way others see me, and the way I treat others is the way I'll be treated.

However, I don't try to be an elitist pig in music terms. Hell, I don't even bring up the music subject when I'm with my friends, because I know they aren't really into it, so I guess my "super wide taste in music" helps a lot, since I listen to dance, electronica, hip hop and several other genres I wouldn't consider to listen on my own, yet I listen to them to have fun.

But yes, metalheads are definitely viewed as weirdos. Stereotypes, me supposes.

eh... and yeah Opeth... eh... I still have a lot to DL... but I'd prefer stop downloading and buy more albums. Probably in the summer or something.

Opeth = fun

[QUOTE=TojesDoLan]Haha grammer nazy.

Anyhow, on the metalhead department... I think I've turned into a nicer person since I got into the more... brutal shades of music, say metal, say Rock. Aside from a number of facts and situations I don't really think is necessary to expose at the moment, I had to change my mind on how I treat people and how I am portrayed. After all, all I have is the way others see me, and the way I treat others is the way I'll be treated.

However, I don't try to be an elitist pig in music terms. Hell, I don't even bring up the music subject when I'm with my friends, because I know they aren't really into it, so I guess my "super wide taste in music" helps a lot, since I listen to dance, electronica, hip hop and several other genres I wouldn't consider to listen on my own, yet I listen to them to have fun.

But yes, metalheads are definitely viewed as weirdos. Stereotypes, me supposes.

eh... and yeah Opeth... eh... I still have a lot to DL... but I'd prefer stop downloading and buy more albums. Probably in the summer or something.[/QUOTE]


I'd start buying albums if I were you, Downloading causes cancer. :p

[QUOTE=Flynn]I'd start buying albums if I were you, Downloading causes cancer. :p[/QUOTE]
Yeah I was told that the other day, hehe...

:shiftey:

Anyhow, I'll try and make it backward-chronological order, since I got Ghost Reveries first, then Lamentations, so D&D, BwP, SL, etc. etc. Or just the way I come across each album.

[QUOTE=Jude]There are plenty that are laid back, but for every one of those there's an anal-retentive elitist :\
[/QUOTE]

True, and for every fingernail of those is a meat-headed mindless idiot who goes to concerts just to beat people up in the mosh pit. :rolleyes:

[QUOTE=Det_Nosnip]True, and for every fingernail of those is a meat-headed mindless idiot who goes to concerts just to beat people up in the mosh pit. :rolleyes:[/QUOTE]

Fortunately I don't go to metal gigs so I don't have to worry about those!

Except for if I ever make it to an Opeth show :\

[QUOTE=Eleventeen]Omfg That's So Sentimental.

Opeth Is Freaking Lame You Queer, Omfg They Can Play Music From The Middle Ages As Well As Generic Melodic Death Metal Omfg!

Definately Art.[/QUOTE]


Why the fvck do you post?

[QUOTE=Jude]Fortunately I don't go to metal gigs so I don't have to worry about those!

Except for if I ever make it to an Opeth show :\[/QUOTE]


Well, if you live close to Minnesota, you can catch them March 4th (Next weekend).

Goin on March 5th, first concert ever omg.

[QUOTE=aphotic__713]Goin on March 5th, first concert ever omg.[/QUOTE]

Holy Hell, that's a good first concert, I hope you enjoy.

My first concert was Suicidal Tendencies (boo-yah!) and ICP (boo!).

I hated ICP at the time too.

lol yea, the only reason i havent gone to much concerts is that where i live, its kind of isolated. But Opeth is just comin just a few hours away. Cant believe how pysched i am.
Well, ive gone to other concerts but it was practically nobodies, Kyros, Deafening, The Outsiderz and a metallica cover band from toronto

[QUOTE=Flynn]Well, if you live close to Minnesota, you can catch them March 4th (Next weekend).[/QUOTE]
Minnesota? :lol: Nowhere near!

I was a 3 hour drive from 2 Opeth gigs on this tour but I had no way to get there. It sucked.

[QUOTE=aphotic__713]lol yea, the only reason i havent gone to much concerts is that where i live, its kind of isolated. But Opeth is just comin just a few hours away. Cant believe how pysched i am.
Well, ive gone to other concerts but it was practically nobodies, Kyros, Deafening, The Outsiderz and a metallica cover band from toronto[/QUOTE]

Ahh, I feel for you man, I normally have to drive out to Philly or Trenton or Scranton to go to shows.