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Darkness 02-23-2006 08:51 PM

[QUOTE=Shattered_Future]I STILL don't like Face Of Melinda. I don't know what it is...[/QUOTE]
I die a little every time I hear that... much like when you guys when you hear about my thoughts on those other songs.

Shattered_Future 02-23-2006 08:51 PM

That's true...I haven't found the urge to sacrifice puppies yet from listening to that.

However, I'm slowly appreciating White Cluster more. It's going to own live tomorrow. 21 hours!!!

Toaster 02-23-2006 08:52 PM

[quote=Deth]You need a good beating then I suppose.[/quote]

[quote=Flynn]I know what it is...your taste!!!!! haha j/k

Give it more time, you'll like it. I'm sure it will take a while for the ''witch incantations'' that were put on the song to take effect.[/quote]

:lol: Owned hard!

I love it as a song in itself, but it might have more meaning to you if you check out the lyrics and how they connect with the concept of Still Life, if you haven't already. I wasn't a big fan of it either until fairly recently.

Darkness 02-23-2006 08:56 PM

Man.. me and that song clicked the first time I heard it... that last main electric riff just blows me away.

i am the robots 02-23-2006 08:57 PM

[QUOTE=Dunkelheit509]I die a little every time I hear that...[/QUOTE]

Same here son, same here.

Kaiwaz 02-23-2006 09:11 PM

[QUOTE=Dunkelheit509]Man.. me and that song clicked the first time I heard it... that last main electric riff just blows me away.[/QUOTE]

My thoughts exactly. Not to mention, also, that's my favorite part of the concept.




[I]
''Endlessly gazing in nocturnal prime
She spoke of her vices and broke the rhyme
But baffled herself with the final line
My promise is made but my heart is thine...''[/I]

Darkness 02-23-2006 09:12 PM

^ Yeah, the lyrics are perfect also.

The Cynic 02-23-2006 09:14 PM

^ Opeth Is Perfect.

Kaiwaz 02-23-2006 09:18 PM

They could of made an epic video to that song, or any of their songs for that matter. I'd really love to see a well directed video to an early [B]O[/B]peth song, I don't know why...

Darkness 02-23-2006 09:19 PM

The Grand Conjuration takes care of all my Opeth video needs!

Kaiwaz 02-23-2006 09:20 PM

I just threw up in my mouth a little bit...thanks. Don't get me wrong, I'd like to see them actually try and make something epic for any song off of GR. Preferably, Ghost Of Perdition...they have the talent.

Darkness 02-23-2006 09:24 PM

Yeah a well done Ghost Of Perdition would be awesome.

Kaiwaz 02-23-2006 09:28 PM

Yes indeed. By video, I don't mean shots of the band on stage, then in the forest, then on top of a pyramid, but something more intricate and storylike yet very well directed with nice visuals and flow to the actual song. That would be awesome.

Jude 02-23-2006 09:57 PM

[QUOTE=Flynn]Yes indeed. By video, I don't mean shots of the band on stage, then in the forest, then on top of a pyramid, but something more intricate and storylike yet very well directed with nice visuals and flow to the actual song. That would be awesome.[/QUOTE]
I'm OK without it. The visuals Opeth generates in my head are better than any video could be.

Kaiwaz 02-23-2006 10:03 PM

[QUOTE=Jude]I'm OK without it. The visuals Opeth generates in my head are better than any video could be.[/QUOTE]


Yes, this is true. I'd still like to see at least one well directed video to an Opeth song.

Cain 02-24-2006 12:03 AM

ATTN: OPETH CAREER RETROSPECTIVE CONCERT REVIEW AND SETLIST

Great show, all things considered. The experience tonight was considerably more novel and artistic than the last Opeth show in New York a few months ago. As it took place in Town Hall, a high-class venue just off of Times Square, the show was seated and built around a "sit and appreciate the artistry" motif: there was only standing in the bottom seats, there were no pits, and barely anyone could stop gazing at Opeth onstage long enough to headbang. To a degree, I really missed the unpleasentness of being crammed up against untold bodies between the barrier and the crowd at the last show, for all its discomfort I loved the rush it gave to the music.

Since I was sitting for the whole show, encore excepted, I noticed that this show took on a decidedly head-scratching, analytical air. No doubt that was Opeth's intention, but given their decision to not only play a career retrospective but to deliberately pick obscure, non-fan-favorites I confess myself a teeny bit disappointed. I wanted to get lost in the true highlights off of Morningrise and so on, given that songs off those records are never played anyway. Even so, the power of Opeth live is mind-boggling: one of the benefits to this set construction was the way we could see Opeth's evolution and the true breadth of their compositional artistry, and when confronted with the sheer gravity and volume of music Opeth have created over their twelve-year career, I am amazed. All told, this was an excellent show.

Small critiques and comments of special note: I would have easily taken Black Rose Immortal or two different songs over the twenty-five-million-minute version of "Closure" they did this time around. It was the only point during the concert where I became outright bored, although the drummer and Per had fantastic extended solos in the song. The ballerinas were a rather apathetic experience for me: I was hoping for something awesome, but I'm sorry, there was nothing to convert me to dance's brand of art in this performance set to "Deliverance." Per Wiberg's keyboards were even more well-integrated with the band's sound than at the last show: his Hammond organ sounds and E-bow simulations caused a lot of their darker numbers to increase the ambience and musical depth tenfold. I am very impressed with how well he is becoming an asset to Opeth with his keyboards: very often the notes he played sounded almost like screams, which made the majority of the heavy music INCREDIBLY eerie, and very artsy and progressive-sounding. I was a little disappointed by the setlist, but I understand that the point of the retrospective was to pick more obscure songs rather than fan favorites.

SETLIST FOR THE RETROSPECTIVE:

ORCHID: Under the Weeping Moon
MORNINGRISE: The Night and the Silent Water
MY ARMS, YOUR HEARSE: The Amen Corner
STILL LIFE: White Cluster
BLACKWATER PARK: The Leper Affinity
DELIVERANCE: A Fair Judgement, Deliverance
DAMNATION: Windowpane, Closure
GHOST REVERIES: Ghost of Perdition, Baying of the Hounds, The Grand Conjuration
ENCORE: Demon of the Fall

UpperDecker 02-24-2006 07:04 AM

[QUOTE=Cain]
SETLIST FOR THE RETROSPECTIVE:

ORCHID: Under the Weeping Moon
MORNINGRISE: The Night and the Silent Water
MY ARMS, YOUR HEARSE: The Amen Corner
STILL LIFE: White Cluster
BLACKWATER PARK: The Leper Affinity
DELIVERANCE: A Fair Judgement, Deliverance
DAMNATION: Windowpane, Closure
GHOST REVERIES: Ghost of Perdition, Baying of the Hounds, The Grand Conjuration
ENCORE: Demon of the Fall[/QUOTE]


Sounds good, im glad to hear they played something from Morningrise.

Werny 02-24-2006 08:01 AM

Sounds pretty dayum sweet, Cain. Thanks for the review.

I just discovered something... my favourite Martin Lopez moment is the instrumental acoustic bit in The Baying of the Hounds! FLOOR TOMS EVERYBODY, FLOOR TOMS ARE YOUR FRIEND. And the little cymbals... aaaah.

BurningSky 02-24-2006 08:24 AM

The highlight of the show was when a man in the front row yelled something Swedish to Mike, which was followed by a short conversation. A few seconds later, Mike walks over to Peter and does a really cheesy pose with a thumbs up sign and a goofy smile. The crowd erupted in laughter, it was awesome...

Cain 02-24-2006 10:34 AM

[QUOTE=BurningSky]The highlight of the show was when a man in the front row yelled something Swedish to Mike, which was followed by a short conversation. A few seconds later, Mike walks over to Peter and does a really cheesy pose with a thumbs up sign and a goofy smile. The crowd erupted in laughter, it was awesome...[/QUOTE]

Yeah, I loved that too. Where were you sitting?

BurningSky 02-24-2006 10:39 AM

[QUOTE=Cain]Yeah, I loved that too. Where were you sitting?[/QUOTE]

Second to last row in the bottom middle section. I could see everything decently, and the guys in front of me were awesome...

Shattered_Future 02-24-2006 10:39 AM

The setlist leaves a little to be desired, true, but it's still Opeth.

Judging from your description, I can't tell if you had fun or not...I'm assuming you did. :thumb:

I leave for mine in...oh, 20 (read: 1 hour) minutes or so. My dad takes forever to get out of the house...

Cain 02-24-2006 10:53 AM

[QUOTE=BurningSky]Second to last row in the bottom middle section. I could see everything decently, and the guys in front of me were awesome...[/QUOTE]

I was up in the balcony, Row J. :-/ I still had a decent view, but we had few die-hards in my area. Lots of girls who, I suspect, came to see the ballet and failed to recognize the extent of how "metal" the band behind them was going to be.

What did you think of the ballet?

EDIT: Shattered, I loved it. No worries. I'm just pissed that they played White Cluster instead of Serenity Painted Death and a completely self-indulgent, unneccesarily long version of "Closure" instead of another Morningrise song! (Even though the Closure solos made up for it)

Shattered_Future 02-24-2006 10:56 AM

Ah, ok.

Yea, I'm kinda pissed about the setlist too...none of my favorites in there.

Well, except for The Leper Affinity. That should kick epic ***.

Deth 02-24-2006 11:03 AM

I'm really suprised that they played The Night and The Silent Water, what with all of them professing their dislike of their song.

BurningSky 02-24-2006 11:13 AM

[QUOTE=Cain]I was up in the balcony, Row J. :-/ I still had a decent view, but we had few die-hards in my area. Lots of girls who, I suspect, came to see the ballet and failed to recognize the extent of how "metal" the band behind them was going to be.

What did you think of the ballet?

EDIT: Shattered, I loved it. No worries. I'm just pissed that they played White Cluster instead of Serenity Painted Death and a completely self-indulgent, unneccesarily long version of "Closure" instead of another Morningrise song! (Even though the Closure solos made up for it)[/QUOTE]

The ballet was interesting. I was curious to see how they would incorporate such the seemingly innocent dancing style of ballet with such a harsh and dissonant style of music, and I think they pulled it off quite well.

Mikael's comment about them was also pretty funny...

As for Closure, I thoroughly enjoyed the extended "ambience", but I'm a sucker for lengthy space rock type stuff (hence my huge love for Porcupine Tree, especially the Sky Moves Sideways and Signify days), but I guess my tastes don't apply to all...

I was also hoping for The Moor, Godhead's Lament, or Serenity Painted Death rather than White Cluster, but I was quite happy with the song selection...

I also called them playing The Amen Corner along with the guy sitting in front of me, and when the opening riffs began, he gave me a huge high five...

Cain 02-24-2006 11:20 AM

[QUOTE=BurningSky]The ballet was interesting. I was curious to see how they would incorporate such the seemingly innocent dancing style of ballet with such a harsh and dissonant style of music, and I think they pulled it off quite well.

Mikael's comment about them was also pretty funny...

As for Closure, I thoroughly enjoyed the extended "ambience", but I'm a sucker for lengthy space rock type stuff (hence my huge love for Porcupine Tree, especially the Sky Moves Sideways and Signify days), but I guess my tastes don't apply to all...

I was also hoping for The Moor, Godhead's Lament, or Serenity Painted Death rather than White Cluster, but I was quite happy with the song selection...

I also called them playing The Amen Corner along with the guy sitting in front of me, and when the opening riffs began, he gave me a huge high five...[/QUOTE]

It's great having experiences like that...sadly, they seem to happen mostly near the front. My section had next to no diehards and not very many people who looked like they would welcome a chat. That, plus my appearence (I'm the least metal-looking kid to ever go to a metal show) made me a little uneasy when it came to just striking up conversation.

Ah well, when I saw Rush I had experiences like that, so hey. :)

EDIT: [QUOTE]I'm really suprised that they played The Night and The Silent Water, what with all of them professing their dislike of their song.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, they said they had never played it live before ever because of it. But they also said they were deliberately trying to find obscure numbers and said it sounded "pretty good" in rehearsals. The drummer wrote some new parts for it, as well, the whole thing sounded MUCH tighter and cohesive, plus Per had some really nice keyboard flourishes. It sounds even more epic than it does on the record.

BurningSky probably heard what Mikael had to say about NATSW better than I did. I was straining to hear. Do you remember, BurningSky?

BurningSky 02-24-2006 11:31 AM

Something along the lines of...(not the exact quote)

"That was from our first album, Orchid, so which one comes next? Morningrise I think. We were unhappy with the production of this album, but a lot of the fans seem to like it a lot. The song we are going to play...we have never played before. We were unhappy with it in the studio, but we tried it out in rehearsals and it sounded pretty good. So here it is, The Night and the Silent Water."

It was something along those lines, no where near what he said exactly...

Deth 02-24-2006 11:33 AM

You both are very lucky. I would love to have seen those songs live.

Cain 02-24-2006 11:36 AM

Yeah, so Mikael's problems were production problems. The same problems I have with Morningrise.

The song sounds MUCH better with the new vocal styles, clean vocal control, keyboards, and tighter, more virtuosic and thick drums. They should really do more Morningrise tunes.

BurningSky 02-24-2006 11:40 AM

[QUOTE=Cain]Yeah, so Mikael's problems were production problems. The same problems I have with Morningrise.

The song sounds MUCH better with the new vocal styles, clean vocal control, keyboards, and tighter, more virtuosic and thick drums. They should really do more Morningrise tunes.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, Black Rose Immortal and To Bid You Farewell should definitely make a return...

denboy 02-24-2006 11:47 AM

I hope there's a bootleg of it out there somewhere

gmoneyguy 02-24-2006 02:15 PM

To bad the show im goign to isn't goign to be an evening with... show.
But I'm still excited as hell to go seem them.

Jude 02-24-2006 03:01 PM

Knifeboy, some people on the Opeth board were mentioning some bootleg someone had, somewhere, of TNATSW, but I haven't seen it yet.

I thought in addition to production, Mike didn't like TNATSW because of all the emotional issues around it (it was written abotu his grandfather's death, etc)

BlindWriting 02-24-2006 03:18 PM

[QUOTE=Cain]ATTN: OPETH CAREER RETROSPECTIVE CONCERT REVIEW AND SETLIST

Great show, all things considered. The experience tonight was considerably more novel and artistic than the last Opeth show in New York a few months ago. As it took place in Town Hall, a high-class venue just off of Times Square, the show was seated and built around a "sit and appreciate the artistry" motif: there was only standing in the bottom seats, there were no pits, and barely anyone could stop gazing at Opeth onstage long enough to headbang. To a degree, I really missed the unpleasentness of being crammed up against untold bodies between the barrier and the crowd at the last show, for all its discomfort I loved the rush it gave to the music.

Since I was sitting for the whole show, encore excepted, I noticed that this show took on a decidedly head-scratching, analytical air. No doubt that was Opeth's intention, but given their decision to not only play a career retrospective but to deliberately pick obscure, non-fan-favorites I confess myself a teeny bit disappointed. I wanted to get lost in the true highlights off of Morningrise and so on, given that songs off those records are never played anyway. Even so, the power of Opeth live is mind-boggling: one of the benefits to this set construction was the way we could see Opeth's evolution and the true breadth of their compositional artistry, and when confronted with the sheer gravity and volume of music Opeth have created over their twelve-year career, I am amazed. All told, this was an excellent show.

Small critiques and comments of special note: I would have easily taken Black Rose Immortal or two different songs over the twenty-five-million-minute version of "Closure" they did this time around. It was the only point during the concert where I became outright bored, although the drummer and Per had fantastic extended solos in the song. The ballerinas were a rather apathetic experience for me: I was hoping for something awesome, but I'm sorry, there was nothing to convert me to dance's brand of art in this performance set to "Deliverance." Per Wiberg's keyboards were even more well-integrated with the band's sound than at the last show: his Hammond organ sounds and E-bow simulations caused a lot of their darker numbers to increase the ambience and musical depth tenfold. I am very impressed with how well he is becoming an asset to Opeth with his keyboards: very often the notes he played sounded almost like screams, which made the majority of the heavy music INCREDIBLY eerie, and very artsy and progressive-sounding. I was a little disappointed by the setlist, but I understand that the point of the retrospective was to pick more obscure songs rather than fan favorites.

SETLIST FOR THE RETROSPECTIVE:

ORCHID: Under the Weeping Moon
MORNINGRISE: The Night and the Silent Water
MY ARMS, YOUR HEARSE: The Amen Corner
STILL LIFE: White Cluster
BLACKWATER PARK: The Leper Affinity
DELIVERANCE: A Fair Judgement, Deliverance
DAMNATION: Windowpane, Closure
GHOST REVERIES: Ghost of Perdition, Baying of the Hounds, The Grand Conjuration
ENCORE: Demon of the Fall[/QUOTE]
I was at the same show last night. MY GOD, it ruled. The band sounded fantastic (hoping Martin's alright, wherever he is...) and Mikael was hilarious in between songs.

I really liked Per's e-bow simulator as well. That worked fantastically, along with his organ sounds.

The version they played of Closure was great, I thought. The jamming really worked, and I agree, it was a great showcase for the drummer. I love that everyone was expecting the big Middle Eastern section at the end to come, but the band just kept building it up, and finally when it hit everyone went nuts.

That was also the first time I'd heard White Cluster. I loved it, I'm determined to pick up a copy of Still Life now.

It was kind of odd that they played Deliverance, seeing as how the Ballet Deviare danced to it. I wasn't crazy about the opening dance either, but I loved what Mikael said about it.
"Did you guys like the ballet?"
*Cheering.*
"Good, cause we get to party with them afterwards!"
Then some dude in the crowd yells, "What about your wife?!"
Mikael says, "Oh it's alright, she knows I don't dance."

And then some other dude asked if he could take a picture of Mikael and Peter in Swedish. A lot of great interaction between Mikael and the audience.

I was in row H. I could see pretty much everything, except for Per. The only glimpses I caught of him were if he was leaning forward.

I would have loved to see them play When, The Funeral Portrait, and Wreath, but overall the show was amazing. Oh man. So cool.

i am the robots 02-24-2006 03:44 PM

My God, I'm jealous... why do they have to play in Western PA this tour? GO TO PHILLY OR AT LEAST TRENTON!

Thor 02-24-2006 04:02 PM

They played in Raleigh on my birthday and I couldn't go because it was sold out. I'm still kind of mad about it. :(

^Dream~Theater^ 02-24-2006 04:04 PM

Ya, I woulda been pretty upset. I still have faith they play play IMSWS..but the faith is growing thin :(

ok lateralus 02-24-2006 05:07 PM

Holy ****, I would KILL to see The Night and the Silent Water live. That is so amazing, man. I think it would be cool if they re-recorded Morningrise, just to see how it would sound with clearer production and new drum and keyboard parts. Still, I think the 1996 version can't be beat but it would be interesting at least

azbassman 02-24-2006 05:14 PM

[QUOTE=ok lateralus]Holy ****, I would KILL to see The Night and the Silent Water live. That is so amazing, man. I think it would be cool if they re-recorded Morningrise, just to see how it would sound with clearer production and new drum and keyboard parts. Still, I think the 1996 version can't be beat but it would be interesting at least[/QUOTE]
There playing up in Tempe on March 15...im going to try hard as hell to get tickets to that.


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