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Hells Bells 02-21-2006 04:53 PM

[QUOTE=Eleventeen]

A lot of progressive stuff isn't structured at all, and that's what gives it its beauty, the songs progress from one part to a whole new section. [/QUOTE]

It usually is structured, but the structure is much more complex and harder to get a grasp of. I wouldn't say that their earlier stuff isn't structured either. I just finished listening to Under the Weeping Moon, and IMO it's one of their best structured songs. The parts lead into each other, and there is a continuity in the atmosphere of the song that ties it together very well. Other than that, it's just become my favourite Opeth song. The soundscape Mikael creates in the middle is stunning :eek:

ok lateralus 02-21-2006 04:59 PM

I realized that I think I like Opeth's first 4 better than the newest 4. The old stuff just has this amazing atmosphere combined with emotional guitar work and clean vocals... just outstanding. They never quite captured the beauty of Morningrise and MAYH (my 2 fav Opeth albums) again. Still, I'm not going to rag on BWP or Deliverance & Damnation... those are fantastic albums too. BWP is probably my favorite of the bunch at the moment. I'm just tired of Deliverance because I over-listened to it, and also it lacks the atmospherics of the other albums.. don't get me wrong, I love it, but it's kind of... empty sounding, sometimes. Damnation is beautiful, and Ghost Reveries is by far their worst album, though it does have a few of their very best songs, actually. I just think it's impossible for songs like R/HF and TGC to be compared seriously to amazing works of art like When or The Moor.

TojesDolan 02-21-2006 05:44 PM

[QUOTE=Thor]How many people have told you that your avatar is slightly disturbing?:)

And I'll agree that the opening two or so minutes to "The Moor" is a great way to open the album right before the heaviness kicks in. That's got to be one of Opeth's best songs of all time.[/QUOTE]
I think I've gotten two or three this week. :p

Anyhow, the intro to the Moor is fantastic, in my opinion. The middle section after "there is no forgiveness..." is what bugs me a bit. Other than that the song is awesome.

On a side note, I like the structure in some Damnations songs... Especially Windowpane. It's suppsoed to end when the first riff is repeated, but all of the sudden, Mikael starts singing again, for what it'd be the third verse. There's the "unpredictability" factor in most Opeth, however, it just seemed much more evident afterwards.

Det_Nosnip 02-21-2006 05:45 PM

[QUOTE=Cathedral]Most people I know say that the song Dirge For November is boring but I love it![/QUOTE]

The beginning is one of the high points of the CD for me, but the rest of the song is average. For BWP standards, at least. ;)

Kaiwaz 02-21-2006 05:46 PM

[QUOTE=ok lateralus]I realized that I think I like Opeth's first 4 better than the newest 4. The old stuff just has this amazing atmosphere combined with emotional guitar work and clean vocals... just outstanding. They never quite captured the beauty of Morningrise and MAYH (my 2 fav Opeth albums) again. Still, I'm not going to rag on BWP or Deliverance & Damnation... those are fantastic albums too. BWP is probably my favorite of the bunch at the moment. I'm just tired of Deliverance because I over-listened to it, and also it lacks the atmospherics of the other albums.. don't get me wrong, I love it, but it's kind of... empty sounding, sometimes. Damnation is beautiful, and Ghost Reveries is by far their worst album, though it does have a few of their very best songs, actually. I just think it's impossible for songs like R/HF and TGC to be compared seriously to amazing works of art like When or The Moor.[/QUOTE]



Well said.

Toaster 02-21-2006 06:59 PM

[QUOTE=UpperDecker]Morningrise owns every other Opeth album.[/QUOTE]

It's my second least favourite Opeth album. Orchid is far better. I'd make an argument for the lastest four albums, but everyone probably knows how it'd go.

UpperDecker 02-21-2006 08:38 PM

On a random note, how awesome is that part in In Mist She Was Standing where he screams "It will fade awayyyyyyy aaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhh". I freakin love that part. He sound so damn evil.

ok lateralus 02-21-2006 08:48 PM

[QUOTE=UpperDecker]On a random note, how awesome is that part in In Mist She Was Standing where he screams "It will fade awayyyyyyy aaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhh". I freakin love that part. He sound so damn evil.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, true, that part kicks ***.

.... but not as much as the outro! Hah, just had to throw that in there for like the millionth time in this thread

Thor 02-21-2006 08:51 PM

UpperDecker, Morningrise owns all other Opeth albums? No way. I actually find that to be their weakest release actually. Here's how it breaks down for me:

Blackwater Park > Still Life > Damnation > Ghost Reveries > My Arms Your Hearse > Deliverance > Orchid > Morningrise

On another note: is the DVD worth getting?

Darkness 02-21-2006 08:52 PM

^ Yes, if you like Damnation. They play all of it, plus Harvest, then they play 5 of the heavier songs. It's pretty good. The documentry is pretty good also, you will like Deliverance more after seeing it.

ok lateralus 02-21-2006 08:54 PM

Yeah, Lamentations is definitely worth buying if you like D&D... too bad they don't play anything from before BWP in the concert though. The documentary is really cool too though, so it's worth getting def.

For me, it would be probably
Morningrise > MAYH > Still Life > Orchid > Blackwater Park > Deliverance > Damnation > Ghost Reveries

Darkness 02-21-2006 08:56 PM

How many times are we going to list our favorite albums in order guys?

Stormrider 02-21-2006 08:57 PM

I saw a bit of Damnation once...when my brother had borrowed it from a friend. I want it. But there is another DVD I want first.

ok lateralus 02-21-2006 08:57 PM

Hah, I dont know. I just decided to do it now cause I'm bored, and it always changes.

Anyway back to more important topics....
Wuts ur fave Opeth song guyz??! LOLZ

Toaster 02-21-2006 08:58 PM

[QUOTE=ok lateralus]Hah, I dont know. I just decided to do it now cause I'm bored, and it always changes.

Anyway back to more important topics....
Wuts ur fave Opeth song guyz??! LOLZ[/QUOTE]

I'd say Bleak.

/gets the joke.

UpperDecker 02-21-2006 09:02 PM

[QUOTE=Thor]UpperDecker, Morningrise owns all other Opeth albums? No way. I actually find that to be their weakest release actually. Here's how it breaks down for me:

Blackwater Park > Still Life > Damnation > Ghost Reveries > My Arms Your Hearse > Deliverance > Orchid > Morningrise

On another note: is the DVD worth getting?[/QUOTE]

Yea its my favorite, followed closely by My Arms and Still Life. If you like Opeth then you should get Lamentations, i hardly watch it but it is good. I just wish they played other stuff besides from D and D.

Darkness 02-21-2006 09:03 PM

Face Of Melinda or Blackwater Park for me. :p

ok lateralus 02-21-2006 09:06 PM

Demon of the Fall for me
(predictable I know)

UpperDecker 02-21-2006 09:06 PM

Oh my god, one song? Thats nearly impossible. I'll have to say........ The Moor

Kaiwaz 02-21-2006 09:41 PM

The Grand Conjuration! :lol:

Darkness 02-21-2006 09:48 PM

LIAR!

I bet your favorite is Black Rose Immortal Flynn. :p

Kaiwaz 02-21-2006 10:10 PM

You know me too well...

penelope weird hands 02-22-2006 03:42 AM

The Leper Affinity. \m/ ~.~ \m/

On a side note.. anyone know who Opeth will be touring with during their time in Australia?

JamJar 02-22-2006 12:37 PM

[QUOTE=UpperDecker]Oh my god, one song? Thats nearly impossible. I'll have to say........ The Moor[/QUOTE]

Definitely. 123 to everything there.

Darkness 02-22-2006 10:16 PM

[QUOTE=JamJar]Definitely. 123 to everything there.[/QUOTE]
The Moor makes sex look like church, I agree an awesome song indeed.

Jude 02-22-2006 10:42 PM

[QUOTE=Dunkelheit509]The Moor makes sex look like church[/QUOTE]
:lol:

My favorite song is Face of Melinda but there are a lot of songs VERY close behind it. Black Rose Immortal is my most played song of the moment at all in Winamp...it's got almost twice as many plays as the next two which are TBYF and Trains by Porcupine Tree.

Kaiwaz 02-22-2006 10:46 PM

[QUOTE=Jude]:lol:

My favorite song is Face of Melinda but there are a lot of songs VERY close behind it. Black Rose Immortal is my most played song of the moment at all in Winamp...it's got almost twice as many plays as the next two which are TBYF and Trains by Porcupine Tree.[/QUOTE]


:lol: that's awesome, my play count for Black Rose Immortal is at 96 on my media player alone.

Mother 02-22-2006 11:01 PM

Favrite song - The Moor Definetaly

Darkness 02-22-2006 11:04 PM

[QUOTE=Jude]
My favorite song is Face of Melinda[/QUOTE]
Good choice indeed. How can you tell how many plays you have on Winamp of a particular song?

TojesDolan 02-22-2006 11:47 PM

[QUOTE=Dunkelheit509]Good choice indeed. How can you tell how many plays you have on Winamp of a particular song?[/QUOTE]
The media library counts it for you.

Anyhow, at the moment I get the shivers with Wreath and key moments of Deliverance (the song)... But Serenity painted Death has become a late favorite.

Cardboard Headgear 02-22-2006 11:59 PM

AHHHHH this thread just goes in circles!

Huber 02-23-2006 12:14 AM

I've always wondered, where exactly did this thread's title come from?

Kaiwaz 02-23-2006 12:24 AM

[B]O[/B]peth concert shirts

[url]http://www.backstreetmerch.com/images/products/bands/clothing/opeth/bsi_opeth38.gif[/url]

UpperDecker 02-23-2006 07:57 AM

Since people agreed with me that The Moor is their best song we should change this thread title to "There is no forgiveness in this thread". Just a thought.

dUSK 02-23-2006 08:23 AM

[QUOTE=penelope weird hands]On a side note.. anyone know who Opeth will be touring with during their time in Australia?[/QUOTE]

Hasn't been released yet. Although they are harsher bands, my guess is either Psycroptic, The Amenta of The Furor. Vanishing Point is another possibility, but I haven't heard much from them. I could be surprised though.

Det_Nosnip 02-23-2006 12:08 PM

[QUOTE=UpperDecker]Since people agreed with me that The Moor is their best song we should change this thread title to "There is no forgiveness in this thread". Just a thought.[/QUOTE]

I disagree. It's a great song, one of the best intros, but there are better. *glances at Dunkel* BLEAK AND GODHEAD'S LAMENT!!!

"Look Your Last..." is a nice neutral compromise.

UpperDecker 02-23-2006 12:39 PM

I'll probably get flamed for this but can you imagine Mikael on American Idol. He would own everyone. Just something i've been thinking about.

Stoo 02-23-2006 12:43 PM

Flame Flame

i am the robots 02-23-2006 12:50 PM

[QUOTE=UpperDecker]I'll probably get flamed for this but can you imagine Mikael on American Idol. He would own everyone. Just something i've been thinking about.[/QUOTE]

#1) No, he wouldn't win at all, he's not a pop singer.
#2) He wouldn't go on American Idol anyhow, he's [I]Swedish[/I], and he's already got a music carear going for him.

UpperDecker 02-23-2006 01:14 PM

[QUOTE=Eleventeen]#1) No, he wouldn't win at all, he's not a pop singer.
#2) He wouldn't go on American Idol anyhow, he's [I]Swedish[/I], and he's already got a music carear going for him.[/QUOTE]


ok ok, im not saying he should turn into a pop singer i just meant that his voice is just as good as everyone on there.


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