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Dargon 09-26-2007 04:13 PM

[QUOTE=Luc214;15338646]You listen to to much NSBM Dargon.[/QUOTE]
the strangest thing is I haven't listened to any NSBM since I listened to Raping War Plague like 2 months ago.

Idiot.

anyways I remembered that one reason for disproving the holocaust would be that Isreal would no longer have a reason to demand trillions of dollars of US tax money every year, but they still would so it's irrelevant.

Dargon 09-26-2007 04:19 PM

The fact that he's in jail for clearing his throat shows that something fishy is going on there.

Dargon 09-26-2007 04:25 PM

Assuming 6 million jews did get exterminated, that's still nothing on the grand scale. Some 30 million or so Ukranians died because Stalin basically starved them to death in the 1930s. Don't see them making an enormous, nauseating guilt parade about it every damn year.

Jom 09-26-2007 04:25 PM

What I meant earlier is that West and East Germany had different strategies in answering to the legacy of the Nazis. Stories of World War II have been told and re-told repeatedly in order to fashion a collective memory of the past to the point that they want to view Germany as victims, not perpetrators. In so doing, they have selective amnesia: they acknowledge WWII as part of their history, but at the same time distance themselves from National Socialism ideology. As one historian notes, it's a war that Hitler started but everybody lost. Is it a question of collective suffering, or collective accountability? Is Germany entitled to play the victimization card?

Selective remembrance is not the same as selective forgetting or suppression, and in the pursuit of collective memory, West Germans failed to construct a connection between the sufferings of the targets of National Socialism and the refugees and expelled.

When they finally returned to the motherland, they were welcomed with open arms and were considered heroes, even though the imagery of the soldiers with their heads shaved against barbed wire in the Soviet Union seems eerily similar to a certain historical event, hey?

Germany's evolution since then has been incredibly interesting. The distortion of Nazism due to its manipulation over the years has forced new-generation Germans to decide what National Socialism means for their country, and they do so evasively. Can you blame them? They weren't alive when the atrocities commenced.

TojesDolan 09-26-2007 04:38 PM

Well, I despise the whites, the asians, the browns and the blacks.

Permanent Solution 09-26-2007 04:40 PM

Continuing with what SOP said, all Amerians tend to accept we colonized this land, but how many of them actively mention the Native American genocide we committed in doing so?

Jom 09-26-2007 04:40 PM

Heh, reminds me of Pablo Francisco's sketch on that.

"That Jerry Springer... he just loves to start crap, doesn't he? He wakes up one morning, looking in the mirror, going, 'Okay, gonna start some shi[font=verdana]t[/font] today.' And the people he has on his show are ridiculous. [in redneck voice] 'I don't like blacks, Mexicans, or Chinese people!'

'... well, we just happen to have some blacks, some Mexicans... [punching noises].'"

TojesDolan 09-26-2007 04:43 PM

:lol:

talk shows

Deth 09-26-2007 04:44 PM

:lol: I love Pablo's set.

Angmar 09-26-2007 04:44 PM

lol, is Dargon actually a holocaust denier? Or am I missing something?

TojesDolan 09-26-2007 04:45 PM

[QUOTE=Splat Out Plath;15338802]On a lighter note, they have Irn Bru in my college vending machines again. I bought two cans today at like 1 and 11 hours later they're still ice cold, having been in my bag the whole time. I guess they really are made of sterner stuff in Scotland.[/QUOTE]
Wait isn't that beer?

pulseczar 09-26-2007 04:46 PM

dargon's great grand parents were probably jewish tbh

TojesDolan 09-26-2007 04:50 PM

As if ideologies were an important thing at all.

I reached the culminant moment of Jean Paul Sartre's The nausea and I find it to be very similar to crime and punishment by Dostoievsky.

Except of course, there's no crime in the earlier, and the love sections ain't as emotive, they are actually funnier. Although the main character is a bit too caustic and gets annoying at times.

I expect a good ending. :(

Angmar 09-26-2007 04:53 PM

Tojes, you have some serious explaining to do about your how you know me thing on facebook. :mad:

TojesDolan 09-26-2007 05:01 PM

I do that with everyone to be quite honest. :D

Shattered_Future 09-26-2007 06:10 PM

Not only do I now have the retail version of Dark Passion Play by Nightwish (NO VOICEOVERS), I ALSO have the instrumental versions of all the songs to be found on the new album.

GodDAMN, I'm a nerd.

Kage 09-26-2007 06:11 PM

Take a look at my King Crimson and Velvet Underground collections, then try to call yourself a nerd.

Eliminator 09-26-2007 06:11 PM

god damn, you're a fag.

Riva 09-26-2007 06:13 PM

I should bump my old Fanboy thread.

Also: 1 Pink Floyd 20,460

Stormrider 09-26-2007 06:15 PM

I own 12 Iced Earth releases.

That's my biggest band collection so far.

repcak 09-26-2007 06:15 PM

Pink Floyd nerd :p


hm... am i a nerd... i don't think so....




my biggest collection is NIN... but i haven't bought everything, but instead i have unreleased stuff :) ever heard Nine Inch Nails UNPLUGGED?! hehehe :naughty:

Eliminator 09-26-2007 06:21 PM

i probably have like 30+ sonic youth releases

does that count

Shattered_Future 09-26-2007 06:27 PM

I have all of Nightwish's studio releases and DVDs bought, and all the single shiz downloaded.

Angmar 09-26-2007 06:29 PM

I have every Agalloch Album, 2 of them on CD, all demos and EPs and Ashes Against the Grain on orange vinyl.

Nothing that special but meh.

Stormrider 09-26-2007 06:30 PM

Well, considering you only own 3, that's not very impressive.

Pfft.

Angmar 09-26-2007 06:36 PM

But dude, one of them is on VINYL!!! :eek:

/never buys music

TojesDolan 09-26-2007 06:40 PM

Jason has the most impressive collection in these posting boards.

I only have one fall out boy poster and it's a little blurry.

Tyler 09-26-2007 06:41 PM

I have a lot of music but none of it worth mentioning. If you included some of my mom's stuff (which we share), I've got about 3/400 CDs and 200LPs kicking around the house right now.

publicastration 09-26-2007 06:42 PM

I have every Ulver release except for Vargnatt (will get it soon) and I eventually will have both movies.


/meh

EDIT:

Oh yeah I also have Led Zeppelin's entire discography on a DVD.

I'm pretty sure.

Tyler 09-26-2007 06:43 PM

You own a legit copy of Svidd Neger?


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