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Chu 05-30-2006 06:19 PM

[QUOTE=eug008]Yup Charlie was a pretty bad singer... But he sounds quite good on Metropolis on WDADReUnite

Heres the vid

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w4ids4rOegI[/url][/QUOTE]
I think Charlie sounds fkn good on that.

I might have to look into When Day and Dream Unite?

Edit: And the non-Ruddess keyboardist > Ruddess...

I really likw how he plays on an angle, so metal \m/

ghettoeddo 05-30-2006 07:28 PM

derek sherinainanianinainianiagigan?

i still say that people say he's a mindless wanker because they're just jealous and are afraid to admit that he's amazing. not many people in the world know how to milk the guitar for all it's worth like he does.

i just got tool's aenema because i was curious to see this danny carey guy who's sposed to blow MP outta the water.
i haven't found anything amazing yet...am i looking in the wrong place?

GenuineImitation 05-30-2006 08:08 PM

[QUOTE=ghettoeddo]derek sherinainanianinainianiagigan?

i still say that people say he's a mindless wanker because they're just jealous and are afraid to admit that he's amazing. not many people in the world know how to milk the guitar for all it's worth like he does.

i just got tool's aenema because i was curious to see this danny carey guy who's sposed to blow MP outta the water.
i haven't found anything amazing yet...am i looking in the wrong place?[/QUOTE]

He is a decent drummer, but I dont think hes good enough to blow portnoy out of the water. Did a tool fanboy tell you this?

ghettoeddo 05-30-2006 10:49 PM

no. it just seems to be the general consensus that carey > portnoy on these forums?

i really dont hear anything overly striking, although he's solid and i like it.
dream theater ftw in every aspect :]

GenuineImitation 05-30-2006 11:05 PM

[QUOTE=ghettoeddo]no. [B]it just seems to be the general consensus that carey > portnoy on these forums?[/B]

i really dont hear anything overly striking, although he's solid and i like it.
dream theater ftw in every aspect :][/QUOTE]


This is news to me.

ghettoeddo 05-30-2006 11:10 PM

are you sure?
it's really the general impression i get everywhere...

i still stoically (sp) defend portnoy as the better rhythm section

EDIT: 1000 posts wute~ thanks genuine for pointing it out i didnt even notice

GenuineImitation 05-30-2006 11:17 PM

[QUOTE=ghettoeddo]are you sure?
it's really the general impression i get everywhere...

i still stoically (sp) defend portnoy as the better rhythm section[/QUOTE]

I never heard of this before. Then again I dont pay much attention to posts relating to drums.


HAPPY 1,000 Posts

:chug:

ghettoeddo 05-30-2006 11:20 PM

im learning about to crash ( reprise) and losing time/grand finale right now

GenuineImitation 05-30-2006 11:21 PM

[QUOTE=ghettoeddo]im learning about to crash ( reprise) and losing time/grand finale right now[/QUOTE]


Sounds cool. Im learnind Another Day and Instrumedly.

eug008 05-30-2006 11:47 PM

Derek Shernian is quite a good keyboardist but

Kevin Moore>Jordan Rudess>Derek Sherinian

Derek Sherinian's solo work is much better than his work with DT IMO

nowitzki 05-31-2006 02:22 AM

[QUOTE=ghettoeddo]no. it just seems to be the general consensus that carey > portnoy on these forums?

i really dont hear anything overly striking, although he's solid and i like it.
dream theater ftw in every aspect :][/QUOTE]
Danny Carey is amazing, and although I love MP I would rate Carey higher.
I'm not a drummer myself, but Carey is really creative, and his use of polyrhythms is awesome. Lateralus and Ænema (the songs) are worth checking out.

Jev 05-31-2006 06:45 AM

I dislike tool and I think he's very overrated.

But then again, someone who's a Tool fanboy could post something about MP like this is in the Tool thread :p

ThunderBass 05-31-2006 08:28 AM

i cant split them... the are both very good in different aspects... made voting in the current poll very difficult...

RideTheSpiral 05-31-2006 09:55 AM

carey is an awesome drummer but he looks retarded when he drums

Jev 05-31-2006 11:24 AM

So portnoy triumphs?

Lord Abortion 05-31-2006 12:09 PM

I have ten assorted Tool songs...I can't see what all the fuss about Carey is.

Jev 05-31-2006 12:56 PM

Look at the poll.
Carey's already far off in the lead :angry:

JamJar 05-31-2006 12:57 PM

[QUOTE=Lord Abortion]I have ten assorted Tool songs...I can't see what all the fuss about Carey is.[/QUOTE]

What songs have you heard? :confused:

/hasn't posted here in ages

eug008 05-31-2006 04:42 PM

Welllll i voted for portnoy

ghettoeddo 05-31-2006 04:53 PM

SUPPORT PORTNOY!!!!

i have several tool CD's now too, but nothing really strikes me as OMGHE'SSOGOOD but i've had that a bit w/ portnoy.
not that i know much abt drumming being a guitarrist, but portnoy really is much more technically capable and has a greater sense of time signatures i think.

Lord Abortion 05-31-2006 04:54 PM

[QUOTE=JamJar]What songs have you heard? :confused:

/hasn't posted here in ages[/QUOTE]
Eulogy, Pu****, Aenema, sober, 46&2, Ticks and leeches, the grudge, schism, prison sex, Parabola, lateralus, hush, faaip de Oiad.
13 songs, actually.

temporary 05-31-2006 04:54 PM

[QUOTE=Lord Abortion]I have ten assorted Tool songs...I can't see what all the fuss about Carey is.[/QUOTE]

If you don't have it, download Ticks and Leechs ASAP. Even though you don't like Tool, I don't see how you can deny how great that intro is.

As for the final poll, I cast my vote for Neil. I'm really pissed that him, Bozzio, Moon, or Baker aren't winning.

Edit: Nevermind, you do have Ticks and Leechs.

nowitzki 05-31-2006 04:58 PM

[QUOTE=ghettoeddo]SUPPORT PORTNOY!!!!

i have several tool CD's now too, but nothing really strikes me as OMGHE'SSOGOOD but i've had that a bit w/ portnoy.
not that i know much abt drumming being a guitarrist, [B]but portnoy really is much more technically capable and has a greater sense of time signatures i think.[/B][/QUOTE]
I disagree, to me Carey seems like a more talented drummer, and his rhythms are much more intricate. MP is a master of complex time signatures, but so is Carey.

Lord Abortion 05-31-2006 04:59 PM

I like Tool, Maynard just spoils them for me totally.

The man really cannot sing. Maybe he would if he sang up more, he just mumbles and shouts ocasionally.

heavy metal kid 05-31-2006 05:00 PM

hey guys, i don't know if this is old, but here's the Highway Star cover.
[url]http://www.youtube.com/p.swf?video_id=TmFvF8TQTcM&eurl=http%3A//ultimate-guitar.com/news/online_downloads/dream_theater_cover_deep_purple_video_online.html&iurl=http%3A//sjl-static4.sjl.youtube.com/vi/TmFvF8TQTcM/2.jpg&t=OEgsToPDskLdVfBFOaHcXFw5JPT4FKZz[/url]

ghettoeddo 05-31-2006 05:06 PM

yea it's beeen around.

i dont really like maynard mcuh either. he's got a good voice when he actually is singing, but it's usually mumbling or just yelling.

i haven't heard anything by tool which showcases carey's portnoy-beating-skills.
recommendations besides the ones listed above?

nowitzki 05-31-2006 05:18 PM

^A couple examples off the top of my head of some impressive playing would be the end of The Grudge and the end of Schism.

ghettoeddo 05-31-2006 05:28 PM

ok ill check it out.

portnoy's got some realyl complex rhythms and licks, but...ok

EDIT: yea he's solid. very solid. and im not gonna lie, but i really like his drumming. on the other hand, i still think portnoy's much better. maybe carey just doesn't show what he's got with tool

nowitzki 05-31-2006 05:39 PM

At least we can agree that they are both amazing drummers :thumb:

Atica 05-31-2006 05:40 PM

Carey is a great drummer, as well as Portnoy. It's difficult to tell who is better, but I kind of prefer Portnoy.


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