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Paul93560 01-16-2005 08:29 PM

[QUOTE=danielm18]first post. i love metallica. i can play a little bit of metallica but guitar isnt the top priority in my life ive only been playing for about six months. which forum should i ask for help on what equipment i should upgrade to?[/QUOTE]

a mesa dual rectifier with a tube screamer vintage its what hammet usses.learn to plar lepper mesia forgive my spelling

poisonboy67 01-16-2005 08:29 PM

[B]i hate metallica[/B]!!!!i hate metal!!!! metal sucks a big one!!!! and i think thats about it....oh wait metals dead!!!! :thumb:

danielm18 01-16-2005 08:33 PM

[QUOTE=Paul93560]is there any albums you dont like[/QUOTE]

i dont particularly like the st anger album, and i dont like most of the S&M stuff, but other than that i think the rest of their stuff is two thumbs up. its the only stuff i can listen to and not worry about having to change the next song that comes on

metal_milita 01-16-2005 08:44 PM

[QUOTE=Paul93560]f_uck you get out of this thread ******* probably a priest or a christian[/QUOTE]
Just ignore them, they're attention craving pop fans. Just pretend their post never appeard because they only enjoy it when we yell at them or defend our cause (whatever it may be).

metal_milita 01-16-2005 08:54 PM

off topic (sort of), is the person in my avatar Jason Newsted?? It looks like him because its too **** small to really tell.

Joe 01-16-2005 09:31 PM

[QUOTE=metal_milita]is that intended towards me??

1) ya, I don't use tabs. I use GTP files so not only am I recieving the right fingerings, but I can hear how the tab sounds like and I can compare it to the song.
2) Yes I can. I'm in IB music for drumming. My 2nd instrument is guitar. They don't give me lessons on it, but they teach me information on theory and techniques so they can test the hell out of me at the end of the year. The only reason I can play "hard" songs like One is because I research up on the techniques involved (cyberfret.ca, freeguitarlessons.com i believe)
3) 3 months?? More like 9 for me.[/QUOTE]

well somewhat intended towards you

# 3 wasn't, but a lot of people say they're that good

and back to you (i think it was you) awhile ago telling me to learn sanitarium solos. while "studying" for exams i learned the intro solo and the very last solo. they're pretty easy...

Joe 01-16-2005 09:32 PM

[QUOTE=poisonboy67][B]i hate metallica[/B]!!!!i hate metal!!!! metal sucks a big one!!!! and i think thats about it....oh wait metals dead!!!! :thumb:[/QUOTE]

metal's dead eh? what do you call dream theater? and belive me, if you wanna survive in these forums, you do not wanna go into the official band threads and say the band AND style of music suck

Joe 01-16-2005 09:38 PM

dude, cyberfret.com is amazing for people that need extra help for guitar stuff

back to metallica

supra_speed 01-16-2005 09:45 PM

In reply 2 #11216

thanku thanku it is quite good ill have 2 bookmark.... btw metallica rulez :)

Joe 01-16-2005 10:00 PM

[QUOTE=supra_speed]In reply 2 #11216

thanku thanku it is quite good ill have 2 bookmark.... btw metallica rulez :)[/QUOTE]

thank metal_militia too, it's great

yes metallica rules. on the website it shows the riff in the intro solo to fade to black. i already knew how to play it, but it helps. it's also got crazy train

metal_milita 01-16-2005 10:25 PM

sadly, my name is metal_milita. militia was taken so I had to improvise. And putting a 69, 99 or 666 after metal_militia to register it didn't appeal to me.

Joe 01-16-2005 10:29 PM

[QUOTE=metal_milita]sadly, my name is metal_milita. militia was taken so I had to improvise. And putting a 69, 99 or 666 after metal_militia to register it didn't appeal to me.[/QUOTE]

ok there isn't anything wrong with yours. look at mine. mine sucks

Xerxes 01-16-2005 10:33 PM

Man metallica used to kick *** in the old days.

metal_milita 01-16-2005 10:34 PM

lol no one cares. Its not your user name that counts, its your posts so rep+ for you.

Joe 01-16-2005 10:43 PM

[QUOTE=metal_milita]lol no one cares. Its not your user name that counts, its your posts so rep+ for you.[/QUOTE]

cool. how come my rep only went up one point?!?!?! eh, it's a start

[QUOTE]Man metallica used to kick *** in the old days.[/QUOTE]

yea they did. everything from KEA till Black album was amazing

Paul93560 01-16-2005 11:03 PM

[QUOTE=gocaps99]cool. how come my rep only went up one point?!?!?! eh, it's a start



yea they did. everything from KEA till Black album was amazing[/QUOTE]
was hammet in any other bands or progects



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i dont like mtv any more never did think head bangers should take it from the hiphoppers i hat all that s[FONT=Arial Narrow]hit[/FONT]

KILO5203 01-16-2005 11:32 PM

[QUOTE=Paul93560]was hammet in any other bands or progects



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i dont like mtv any more never did think head bangers should take it from the hiphoppers i hat all that s[FONT=Arial Narrow]hit[/FONT][/QUOTE]

hammett was in a band called exodus

metal_milita 01-17-2005 12:14 AM

What the hell is that ASCII supposed to be?

KILO5203 01-17-2005 12:29 AM

[QUOTE=JACKROXYOU]many

thats how you learn guitar[/QUOTE]
man i should get lessons. ive been playing a couple months longer than you and i cant touch a couple of those songs you listed on the other page, except small pieces of them.

pantera615 01-17-2005 12:35 AM

i think metallica [U]were [/U] great but when cliff died they went downhill and then when they brought out load, reload and st anger they went even further downhill-i agree-they cannot get any worse :lol:

metal_milita 01-17-2005 12:36 AM

[QUOTE]sanitarium, one, seek and destroy, master of puppets, disposable heroes, i disapear, creeping death

1 and half years[/QUOTE]

You don't need lessons to learn these songs KILO. It takes time. Spend 4 hours of your day JUST on one of these songs, and I can guarantee you (if done properly) you will learn %80 of the song. Solo's may take a while, but learn all the rythm parts first. Once you have that out of the way, you'll have time to concentrate on the solos. I found that the spider-chord pattern for MOP was difficult, but after I spent 2 hours on it (with the help of a metronome) I learned to alternate pick it.

metal_milita 01-17-2005 12:43 AM

[QUOTE=pantera615]i think metallica [U]were [/U] great but when cliff died they went downhill and then when they brought out load, reload and st anger they went even further downhill-i agree-they cannot get any worse :lol:[/QUOTE]
Don't jinx it, James might wear old navy and start a tour with Simple Plan. Imagine hearing them sing "I'm addicted." :angry:

Leper 01-17-2005 01:31 AM

[QUOTE=Lars_ironcobra_doublepedal]Was Dyers Eve completed or they played it a half or something???[/QUOTE]

completed. Sorry for the ridiculously later reply...again.

JACKROXYOU 01-17-2005 09:35 AM

[QUOTE=metal_milita]You don't need lessons to learn these songs KILO. It takes time. Spend 4 hours of your day JUST on one of these songs, and I can guarantee you (if done properly) you will learn %80 of the song. Solo's may take a while, but learn all the rythm parts first. Once you have that out of the way, you'll have time to concentrate on the solos. I found that the spider-chord pattern for MOP was difficult, but after I spent 2 hours on it (with the help of a metronome) I learned to alternate pick it.[/QUOTE]

having a teacher can help you though

luckly mine was a huge metallica/stevie ray vaughan so i got all the good music

led_zep_luvr 01-17-2005 09:48 AM

[QUOTE=JACKROXYOU]having a teacher can help you though

luckly mine was a huge metallica/stevie ray vaughan so i got all the good music[/QUOTE]


i have a teacher and i have been playing guitar and taking lessons for about 4 months and i think i am alright at guitar, i can play most of "one " including solos but there is two guitars so its kinda hard to say you can play it(i just play james's part and then kirk's part ) but i was womdering if thre are any metallica songs that sound pretty good to play in front of people? i was thinking seek and destroy) or maybe MoP.

question can apply to anytone who plays guitar.............................

munky_magik 01-17-2005 09:50 AM

[QUOTE=metal_milita]You don't need lessons to learn these songs KILO. It takes time. Spend 4 hours of your day JUST on one of these songs, and I can guarantee you (if done properly) you will learn %80 of the song. Solo's may take a while, but learn all the rythm parts first. Once you have that out of the way, you'll have time to concentrate on the solos. I found that the spider-chord pattern for MOP was difficult, but after I spent 2 hours on it (with the help of a metronome) I learned to alternate pick it.[/QUOTE]

this approach gives you a very restricted view of music in general, using a teacher will give you a much broader appreciation of musical styles/techniques. And that riff is meant to be down picked.

led_zep_luvr 01-17-2005 09:51 AM

[QUOTE=munky_magik]this approach gives you a very restricted view of music in general, using a teacher will give you a much broader appreciation of musical styles/techniques. And that riff is meant to be down picked.[/QUOTE]


sanitarium? :confused:

munky_magik 01-17-2005 09:57 AM

[QUOTE=led_zep_luvr]sanitarium? :confused:[/QUOTE]

what?

led_zep_luvr 01-17-2005 09:59 AM

i thought you meant that the main riff for sanitarium had to be downpickeded thats why i asked

munky_magik 01-17-2005 10:01 AM

[QUOTE=led_zep_luvr]i thought you meant that the main riff for sanitarium had to be downpickeded thats why i asked[/QUOTE]

The "spider pattern riff" as he put it in MOP needs to be downpicked.

led_zep_luvr 01-17-2005 10:05 AM

[QUOTE=munky_magik]The "spider pattern riff" as he put it in MOP needs to be downpicked.[/QUOTE]


whats that? you mean the part that goes like

2 3
01 01 etc..................................

led_zep_luvr 01-17-2005 10:06 AM

i messed up

btoto 01-17-2005 10:07 AM

I can play:

KEA - All rhythm parts, solos - Mechanix (whole), Jump In The Fire (intro, second), No Remorse (second), Phantom Lord (whole), Metal Militia (too lazy to learn properly)

RTL - Fade To Black (whole song), FWTBT (whole song), rest of the album - no attempts

MOP - Battery (rhythm), MOP (whole song), Sanitarium (whole song except 3rd solo), rest - no attempts

AJFA - One (whole except middle harmony part and 3rd solo).

BLACK - Nothing Else Matters (whole song), Unforgiven (whole song), Sad But True and WIMR only rhythm parts.

Also: Mama Said (whole), Am I Evil (whole), Turn The Page (whole), Blitzkrieg (solo not attempted...........yet)
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It was challenging for me to learn 'tallica solos when I just picked up guitar. But it's been almost 2 years that I play and it's got boring to learn other people's stuff. Now I enjoy writing my own solos or just improvising to 'tallica stuff.

I still want to learn these solos very good:

1. Metal Militia
2. One (3rd)
3. No Remorse (1st)
4. So What
5. Unforgiven II

munky_magik 01-17-2005 10:07 AM

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That one. Most of the song is downpicked as well.

JACKROXYOU 01-17-2005 10:11 AM

wow i didnt know metallica had so many music videos

they got like 20 or so

btoto 01-17-2005 10:17 AM

Yes, the MOP spider riff is downpicked. If you alternate pick it, it will sound horrible.....well, at least it will sound wrong.

I learned to downpick that riff slowly in a few minutes but managed to play it fast after about a month.

Guys, you have to understand, it's not just about doing hard. At first I also thought that way. But then I'd just play something very good and the very next day I'd screw it up. Then I realised that it was about muscles. It takes time to develop muscles on your hands. You can learn something good but next you'll already feel tired playing that thing. Muscles and stamina are important for your picking hand. And it takes time for them to develop. The same with fretting hand - you need to develop "muscle memory" of your fingers. :thumb:

apocalypse13 01-17-2005 10:20 AM

[QUOTE=pantera615]i think metallica [U]were [/U] great but when cliff died they went downhill and then when they brought out load, reload and st anger they went even further downhill-i agree-they cannot get any worse :lol:[/QUOTE]
amen.
They're old stuff with Burton kicked major a-ss. Their latest albums just isn't their sound anymore. They sound like they are trying too hard.
Does anyone know if they still do older stuff on tour?

munky_magik 01-17-2005 10:22 AM

[QUOTE=apocalypse13]amen.
They're old stuff with Burton kicked major a-ss. Their latest albums just isn't their sound anymore. They sound like they are trying too hard.
Does anyone know if they still do older stuff on tour?[/QUOTE]

the majority of their live material is from the KEA - AJFA era.

pnksk8r39 01-17-2005 10:26 AM

i like "one"

Mister_Che 01-17-2005 10:29 AM

[QUOTE=apocalypse13]amen.
They're old stuff with Burton kicked major a-ss. Their latest albums just isn't their sound anymore. They sound like they are trying too hard.
Does anyone know if they still do older stuff on tour?[/QUOTE]

Listen to his basslines in Call of Ktulu. The man had some awesome effects. A Big Muff I think.


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