I just got Like an Ever Flowing Stream. :D

*Gives a listen*

I'm also getting some Dark Angel and Overkill, for the lols.

[QUOTE=Behemoth_Rules_All;14932660]Breakdowns don't define genres though. This is an age old debate; we just got done with it in the metalcore thread. Just because something has breakdowns doesn't mean it has "core" anything in it. Breakdowns are prevailant in all subgenres of metal.[/QUOTE]

JFAC doesn't use breakdowns, so why are we debating their Death Metal-ness.

Lets not even get into that ok.

Because they down-tune.

[quote=Hbp;14932989]JFAC doesn't use breakdowns, so why are we debating their Death Metal-ness.[/quote]

We're not. We're debating the DM-ness of All Shall Perish.


@tojes: :lol: .

According to Wikipedia:

"All Shall Perish is a 5-piece deathcore band from Oakland, California formed in 2002. All Shall Perish combines various genres, including death metal, deathgrind, metalcore, and sludge metal."

[QUOTE=FatalEnergy;14932618]I must be the only one to actually 100% agree with dargon. This "core" crap in the DM thread is a bit ridiculous.[/QUOTE]

Then stop being some whiny fu[SIZE="2"]cking little sh[/SIZE]it wit 15 year old that only comes in here to say something negative about the topics that go on in this thread and contribute by posting about bands or topics you deem to be proper for the threads intent.

Either shut the fu[SIZE="2"]ck up with your bit[/SIZE]ching or actually contribue you stupid fu[SIZE="2"]cking wanker.[/SIZE]


Tojes - Like An Everflowing Stream is a quality album, And So Is Life and In Death's Sleep are my favorites off the album.

NP - Bolt Thrower - The Shreds OF Sanity

been listening to these guys alot lately, mainly this album and Realm of Chaos.

So that means they are unsure of who they are.


[QUOTE=BoboThe RagingHobo]Tojes - Like An Everflowing Stream is a quality album, And So Is Life and In Death's Sleep are my favorites off the album.[/QUOTE]

Yeah I'm about to unzip the new music I got this week, thank you. :- D

God, they're fu[SIZE=2]c[/SIZE]king DM, get over it people. They happen to have some other influences. Jesus. And it's standard New American DM, so it's going to sound different than fu[SIZE=2]c[/SIZE]king Amon Amarth or whatever.

[QUOTE=BoboTheRagingHobo;14933090]Then stop being some whiny fu[SIZE="2"]
NP - Bolt Thrower - The Shreds OF Sanity

been listening to these guys alot lately, mainly this album and Realm of Chaos.[/QUOTE]
\m/ Now there's a band. I just love a death metal band who isn't afraid to throw in the midpaced, incredibly downtuned chug riffs. And the vocals are great too.

[QUOTE=Behemoth_Rules_All;14933107]God, they're fu[SIZE=2]c[/SIZE]king DM, get over it people. They happen to have some other influences. Jesus. And it's standard New American DM, so it's going to sound different than fu[SIZE=2]c[/SIZE]king Amon Amarth or whatever.[/QUOTE]

Well put.

Bolt Thrower rules.

[QUOTE=TojesDolan;14932784]I just got Like an Ever Flowing Stream. :D

*Gives a listen*

I'm also getting some Dark Angel and Overkill, for the lols.[/QUOTE]
lols? what the hell is funny about them? are you some easily amused mental aberrant?


on the other hand, I did lol at the last page. Kiddies thinking gravity blasts make a band death metal. Gravity blasts are for wiggers to bust out da sikkest nu moves 2 dem.

Way to misinterperet what people say and then use it against them, man.


Can you f[Size=2]u[/Size]cking read?

I need to get Like An Ever Flowing Stream.

Your never going to win in an argument with him, your just wasting time.

Like an Everflowing Stream is great stuff, and is actually worth being talked about in here. Unlike 95% of the bands talked about on the previous page.

I liked it but it was a bit linear.

I still havn't gotten to absorb Left Hand Path in it's complete and total form yet.

[QUOTE=Hbp;14933764]I still havn't gotten to absorb Left Hand Path in it's complete and total form yet.[/QUOTE]

That's unfortunate. That's an excellent album. Listen now.

[QUOTE=TojesDolan;14932784]I just got Like an Ever Flowing Stream. :D

*Gives a listen*

I'm also getting some Dark Angel and Overkill, for the lols.[/QUOTE]

oddly enough i got all three of those bands a couple days ago too, but i dont like overkill all that much.

[QUOTE=Dargon II;14933504]lols? what the hell is funny about them? are you some easily amused mental aberrant?


on the other hand, I did lol at the last page. Kiddies thinking gravity blasts make a band death metal. Gravity blasts are for wiggers to bust out da sikkest nu moves 2 dem.[/QUOTE]

you're a bitch, dude

[QUOTE=RiceMonster;14933843]That's unfortunate. That's an excellent album. Listen now.[/QUOTE]

No, I've listened to it like 3 times, but it takes a little time and a few more listens for it to sink in with me.

I've had a problems similar with Carnage's Dark Recollections.

I need to give it another few listens. I keep getting bored with it.

[QUOTE=RiceMonster;14933843]That's unfortunate. That's an excellent album. Listen now.[/QUOTE]

^^^ Yes, Rice is totally correct. It is a throughly enjoyable listen.

NP: Demilich - The Planet That Once Used To Absorb Flesh In Order To Achieve Divinity And Immortality (Suffocated To The Flesh That It Desired...)

At 2:22 in this song, there is one of the best riffs I have ever had the pleasure of hearing. As Dargon would say "brillant riffcraft" ha ha.

[QUOTE=FatalEnergy;14934106]I've had a problems similar with Carnage's Dark Recollections.

I need to give it another few listens. I keep getting bored with it.[/QUOTE]

I really love DR. It hit right away for me.

[QUOTE=LegionsofMarduk;14930910]Music is a lot easier to find nowadays so to a small degree, I actually agree with Dargon. It's become so easy to find, that people lose some of the appreciation for it. 10-15 years ago it was a lot harder to come across really good bands because the internet wasn't in wide use. You had to depend on word of mouth, small little fanzines, trades...things like that and because of the effort put forth, the music was worth a lot more to people. People were a lot more appreciative of it.

[/QUOTE]

And unsurprisingly I agree with you and Dargon.

Do people really appreciate music when they're downloading 10 albums a day? Do they really LISTEN to it? Do they have the same anticipation as they would if they were waiting for the postman to come to deliver a battered old manilla envelope containing a trade from a guy from the other side of the world who'd actually taken the time and effort to tape something and post it to you? Is it just background music to their latest internet battles? Or is listening to music an activity in itself? Do they savour every lyric, drum fill, solo, riff and bass lick? Do they try to understand the concepts behind the music? Do they invite their mates round for pissed up listening parties?

Man I feel sorry for the metal youth of today.

Do you feel that the internet has been responsible for disunity in the diminishing "scene" because any old person can order from the internet and get it and never be part of any "scene"?

I think it's too easy to wish great knowlege of metal before time - so people get a good knowlege of hundreds of bands without really listening to the music.

Tell me please Jondur, as one who was around 15 years ago in the scene and not in nappies, (or who knows?) what "rate" of buying new material you did?

I have to admit, I am guilty of often downloading too much **** like a hyper kid. but I try to listen to it all at least once, unless it's total shitcore or something. When something is sitting right there and you can download it in like 2 minutes, it's hard to resist even when you know you won't have time to listen to it.

[quote]At 2:22 in this song, there is one of the best riffs I have ever had the pleasure of hearing. As Dargon would say "brillant riffcraft" ha ha.[/quote]

I haven't listened to that in literally years, gonna do so today.

I only download stuff I really can't find, now. I gave up 'casual' downloading a long time ago, partly because I just would never get around to listening to a lot of things if I downloaded them, but also because I much prefer actually owning things. I've always collected something, and music's been the something for quite some time now.

That said, I still buy too much too quick to listen to it a lot of the time. But I'm working on that.

The internet has definantly changed how people appreciate music. I can still remember the lyrics to just about all the CD's I had growing up, and now that I have so much music I'm unfamiliar with a lot of it.

[QUOTE=Stevie;14934873]Do you feel that the internet has been responsible for disunity in the diminishing "scene" because any old person can order from the internet and get it and never be part of any "scene"?[/QUOTE]

Well it depends what you mean by 'scene'. The real glory years of the metal scene (mid 80s for thrash, early 90s for death) had gone by the time I was going to gigs properly.

To be honest I don't think it's changed that much. People are still people - weak-minded and prone to being swayed by others opinions. Just look at how people dropped Death metal and bought corpsepaint and spikes. Back in 95 I'd get black metal tapes off people with letters and flyers banging on about "No Mosh" or "No sportswear death metal". I'm sure they're probably listening to Nile or that Cowboy band now.

I guess the only real difference is that people are lazy now. No one has to make an effort to get music or to find out about it. It's all there on the net for your lazy perusal.

[QUOTE]I think it's too easy to wish great knowlege of metal before time - so people get a good knowlege of hundreds of bands without really listening to the music.[/QUOTE]

Yes. It also places unfair emphasis on production. If you're only going to give a song one spin before deciding whether you like it then you ain't going to take the trouble to decipher badly recorded music - no matter how good it is.

[QUOTE]Tell me please Jondur, as one who was around 15 years ago in the scene and not in nappies, (or who knows?) what "rate" of buying new material you did?[/QUOTE]

Well for starters - I'm not as old as some people seem to think I am! I'm 28 - I was 13 then and had just got my first two death metal CDs (Covenant and The End Complete). And I bought records and tapes as much as I could. I spent all my pocket money and later paper round money. so I guess it would be a new record every week. And in the height of my tape trading I'd get about 5 tapes a week.

I guess the difference was I'd sit down and actively listen to the music. I wouldn't be playing computer games - I'd be listening. And smoking. And probably drinking.

[QUOTE]The internet has definantly changed how people appreciate music. I can still remember the lyrics to just about all the CD's I had growing up, and now that I have so much music I'm unfamiliar with a lot of it.[/QUOTE]
True. I could probably still tell you the lyrics to so many RATM songs off the top of my head :D

These days I always make a big effort listen to the stuff I download and not judge it until I've listened to it in it's entirety. I went through my list of rated albums on sputnik recently and deleted half my ratings because I hadn't listen to the stuff properly.

[QUOTE=Jondur;14935056]

I guess the difference was I'd sit down and actively listen to the music. I wouldn't be playing computer games - I'd be listening. And smoking. And probably drinking.[/QUOTE]

That's still what I do, minus the drinking and smoking.
But just sit down no other things, just music and the booklet.

I'm so cool, I listen to Orchid, their production is kvlt.

The problem with just giving stuff 1 spin is not just about production. I find that the more I know music, the more I enjoy it. There have been many instances where I've disliked music on the first spin, but it has grown on my like a tumor. THis is true for example with Absurd. First listen to Facta Loqu... and I thought it was ****. But a few more listens and it grew on me and now I love it, even after just 3-4 listens. Appreciating Deicide's Legion is not possible when it's too technical to know what's going on. When you listen to it again and again and learn the album you can know what's happening and you can enjoy it a lot more.

Editz:
Upon reflection, the effects of repeated listens are polarising. The more I listen to good stuff the more I enjoy it. The more I listen to bad stuff the more I realise it's ****, or I just find it annoying, or whatever....Repeated listens are important, Dargon!

[QUOTE=Squirrel;14932506]So, Lord Worm says he got his nickname from a friend. This friend was a magician and they spent their time together smoking snake ribs.

Apart from the utter strangeness of this, has anyone heard of smoking snake ribs before?[/QUOTE]
I wondered that too...

[QUOTE=Dargon II;14934910]I have to admit, I am guilty of often downloading too much **** like a hyper kid. but I try to listen to it all at least once, unless it's total poopcore or something. When something is sitting right there and you can download it in like 2 minutes, it's hard to resist even when you know you won't have time to listen to it.



I haven't listened to that in literally years, gonna do so today.[/QUOTE]

i suffer from the same disease

[QUOTE=Stevie;14935577]
Editz:
Upon reflection, the effects of repeated listens are polarising. The more I listen to good stuff the more I enjoy it. The more I listen to bad stuff the more I realise it's ****, or I just find it annoying, or whatever....Repeated listens are important, Dargon![/QUOTE]

Agreed 100%.

[QUOTE=Stevie;14935577]The problem with just giving stuff 1 spin is not just about production. I find that the more I know music, the more I enjoy it. There have been many instances where I've disliked music on the first spin, but it has grown on my like a tumor. THis is true for example with Absurd. First listen to Facta Loqu... and I thought it was ****. But a few more listens and it grew on me and now I love it, even after just 3-4 listens. Appreciating Deicide's Legion is not possible when it's too technical to know what's going on. When you listen to it again and again and learn the album you can know what's happening and you can enjoy it a lot more.

Editz:
Upon reflection, the effects of repeated listens are polarising. The more I listen to good stuff the more I enjoy it. The more I listen to bad stuff the more I realise it's ****, or I just find it annoying, or whatever....Repeated listens are important, Dargon![/QUOTE]
I know but I have full releases from well over 1000 different metal bands sitting on my hard drive. Can you imagine how long it would take to listen to them all repeatedly? man. Of course if something catches my attention on the first listen, it will get more listens, but if I listen to it once and it's generic and forgettable, then I usually don't listen to it again.

[quote]I wondered that too...[/quote]
Lord Worm eats buckets of worms on stage, but I don't know if the nickname came from the habit, or the habit from the name.

Habit from the name I believe. I'm just interested in the smoking snake ribs part, haha.