[QUOTE=MattFromCanada]gimme a thirty![/QUOTE]
THIRTY!

Give Me a thousand.

No.

Thirty-thousand!

who travel the deep south lynching punjabis and mexicans?


the 30kkk.

[QUOTE=apromisingyear]For the record...

The 30,000 album plan will ALWAYS be a goal. Whether or not I achieve it is a different story. I'll always aim for it though and when/if I reach it i'll set the bar higher. Nothing wrong with trying, it only makes you prosper from it in the end.

Insomnidizzle:
Not ONE album was produced/mix/mastered. read my last post for more info.[/QUOTE]


I don't want to brag, but my bands music is about a million times better than yours and it was freaking hard to get rid of even 500 cds... we even gave some of them away.

What I'm saying is, even if you're music was the sh[font=]it[/font] (which it's not) it's almost impossible to sell over a thousand, without extensive touring, good management, promotion etc.

Did you actualy make all the 30,000 cds? :lol:

[QUOTE=sliver]I don't want to brag, but my bands music is about a million times better than yours and it was freaking hard to get rid of even 500 cds... we even gave some of them away.

Did you actualy make all the 30,000 cds? :lol:[/QUOTE]

If you look about a page back or so I said I never even had one copy made. I post wait my problems were with "after all else fails". I stated that I "forced" the music out of me. Hiphop/guitar/etc. music isn't my thing. I MADE myself write to it. It was forced. It was uninspired. I needed to layer my guitar tracks more for a "full" sound. I needed better drum parts, i needed inspiration.

I deleted the "after all else fails" myspace account and i'm starting over from scratch. This time i'm sticking to my guns and taking my time a little bit more so what I come up with next may get better reviews that what i've got now.

When listening to the songs (2 days ago) for the first time since I uploaded them I realized my mistakes and errors. Forcing out the music and not sticking to my guns.

[QUOTE=apromisingyear]If you look about a page back or so I said I never even had one copy made. I post wait my problems were with "after all else fails". I stated that I "forced" the music out of me. Hiphop/guitar/etc. music isn't my thing. I MADE myself write to it. It was forced. It was uninspired. I needed to layer my guitar tracks more for a "full" sound. I needed better drum parts, i needed inspiration.

I deleted the "after all else fails" myspace account and i'm starting over from scratch. This time i'm sticking to my guns and taking my time a little bit more so what I come up with next may get better reviews that what i've got now.

When listening to the songs (2 days ago) for the first time since I uploaded them I realized my mistakes and errors. Forcing out the music and not sticking to my guns.[/QUOTE]

Ansathisplzk

I thought 'Crying' was written after you and your missus had a little tiff?! Isn't that enough inspiration?! :confused:

[QUOTE=apromisingyear]If you look about a page back or so I said I never even had one copy made. I post wait my problems were with "after all else fails". I stated that I "forced" the music out of me. Hiphop/guitar/etc. music isn't my thing. I MADE myself write to it. It was forced. It was uninspired. I needed to layer my guitar tracks more for a "full" sound. I needed better drum parts, i needed inspiration.

I deleted the "after all else fails" myspace account and i'm starting over from scratch. This time i'm sticking to my guns and taking my time a little bit more so what I come up with next may get better reviews that what i've got now.

When listening to the songs (2 days ago) for the first time since I uploaded them I realized my mistakes and errors. Forcing out the music and not sticking to my guns.[/QUOTE]

that's great, but you were more fun when you argued.

[QUOTE=Phototropic]Ansathisplzk

I thought 'Crying' was written after you and your missus had a little tiff?! Isn't that enough inspiration?! :confused:[/QUOTE]

The story on that song is this...


I was talking to this guy that goes by the name "decadez" from a production company called "SG productions". He had this laid back drum piece he wrote. I told him I was interested in using it. He said I could have it for free as long as he and his production company would get credit for using the track. I agreed to it.

I just listened to the track and came up with all the distortion parts. The clean parts in the beginning were forced (only because on that first half of the track, I had nothing so I just used CRAPPY "filler" riffs that I improvised.) At the end (after the 2 guitar distortion tracks) there is this gap where all backing instruments stop and then the rest of the tracks kick in for the final piece. I laid down the 3 guitar (fading in and out) solos. The last guitar to come in was the one with wah.

So between the rhythm and lead distortion tracks and the final solos I had a space to fill. She left me a voicemail (like 2 weeks before) and it fit with the music and feel of the song perfectly. The voicemail wasn't because we had a fight, it was because I wrote to her a letter and she was touched by it. It were tears of happiness. We weren't arguing. But yeah.

improvisation =/=> forced??

/does snoopy style dance of joy at the return of apy

Hey man, 'sup?


I have to actually commend you on being smart. You've given up trying to come back with witty replies and are just ignoring all this. It's all a big joke. I'm just happy you finally see it that way :wave:

[QUOTE=moaner]improvisation =/=> forced??[/QUOTE]

kind of. Those odd genres of music clumped together and me playing over it was hard to do. I'm not used to doing anything like that.

point is, those clean parts may have been improvised but I didn't follow a scale for that peice, i didn't correct any errors, i didn't try to improve it. all i said was, "meh, thats good enough". I should have taken my time and made it better. Like the solos after the voicemail wasn't improvised. I took an hour and hand wrote every note as it came together.

That style doesn't come natural and in fact it doesn't come at all. Its not my thing.

[QUOTE=EmergencyRoom]/does snoopy style dance of joy at the return of apy

Hey man, 'sup?


I have to actually commend you on being smart. You've given up trying to come back with witty replies and are just ignoring all this. It's all a big joke. I'm just happy you finally see it that way :wave:[/QUOTE]

yeah, i just needed a couple days away from this thread to see that.

EDIT: sorry for double post. :upset:

[QUOTE=apromisingyear]The story on that song is this...


I was talking to this guy that goes by the name "decadez" from a production company called "SG productions". He had this laid back drum piece he wrote. I told him I was interested in using it. He said I could have it for free as long as he and his production company would get credit for using the track. I agreed to it.

I just listened to the track and came up with all the distortion parts. The clean parts in the beginning were forced (only because on that first half of the track, I had nothing so I just used CRAPPY "filler" riffs that I improvised.) At the end (after the 2 guitar distortion tracks) there is this gap where all backing instruments stop and then the rest of the tracks kick in for the final piece. I laid down the 3 guitar (fading in and out) solos. The last guitar to come in was the one with wah.

So between the rhythm and lead distortion tracks and the final solos I had a space to fill. She left me a voicemail (like 2 weeks before) and it fit with the music and feel of the song perfectly. The voicemail wasn't because we had a fight, it was because I wrote to her a letter and she was touched by it. It were tears of happiness. We weren't arguing. But yeah.[/QUOTE]

aha rightey oh

Even when he admits he sucks, he's an arrogant prick. :lol:

I predict this thread will live to see 30,000 posts.

[QUOTE=Insomnidizzle]Even when he admits he sucks, he's an arrogant prick. :lol:[/QUOTE]

:amaze:

christ.

where is this arrogance? i dont feel as if im being arrogant. I think you're all nuts.

please don't say you improvised anything

you have no idea what improvisation is

you simply made things up

making things up is a far cry from actual improvisation

[QUOTE=Eggo]please don't say you improvised anything

you have no idea what improvisation is

you simply made things up

making things up is a far cry from actual improvisation[/QUOTE]

you have no leg to stand on telling me how i wrote my song...you werent in the room with me so please, shut up.

[QUOTE=apromisingyear]:amaze:

christ.

where is this arrogance? i dont feel as if im being arrogant. I think you're all nuts.[/QUOTE]

oh no. Not you again, have you not had enough?

[QUOTE=Eggo]please don't say you improvised anything

you have no idea what improvisation is

you simply made things up

making things up is a far cry from actual improvisation[/QUOTE]

Aw, come on, "making sth up" is basically the definition of improvising. It isn't implied in the word "improvise" that is must be good, and/or done with great theoretical knowledge. I think.

[quote=apy]MX never did e-mail me or give me his e-mail address so my "suprise" has been foiled...for now at least.
[/quote]
Mainly because mx doesn't care about you... Infact, mx rarely seems to be on here, DBJ is the one you need to gripe too.

But anyways, if we ask REALLY nicely, will you tell us what your bit suprise was?

He was probably gonna have MX make an announcement about policemen or something

refl k

[QUOTE=apromisingyear]you have no leg to stand on telling me how i wrote my song...you werent in the room with me so please, shut up.[/QUOTE]

Frank, i LOVE your new usertitle.

Also, even though i lost track of this thread for a while, i can honestly say that you're an official MX legend.

i have one thing i want to ask you though..


[SIZE=7]
[center]Will you marry me? [/center][/SIZE]

[QUOTE=lilsolsman]Frank, i LOVE your new usertitle.

Also, even though i lost track of this thread for a while, i can honestly say that you're an official MX legend.

i have one thing i want to ask you though..


[SIZE=7]
[center]Will you marry me? [/center][/SIZE][/QUOTE]

But you guys are like [SIZE=7][B]30,000 miles apart[/B][/SIZE]



Remember that, you can use it for your next emo song.

[QUOTE=Das Übermensch]Mainly because mx doesn't care about you... Infact, mx rarely seems to be on here, DBJ is the one you need to gripe too.

But anyways, if we ask REALLY nicely, will you tell us what your bit suprise was?[/QUOTE]

No 30,000 way.

[QUOTE=Insomnidizzle]But you guys are like [SIZE=2][B]30,000 miles apart[/B][/SIZE]



Remember that, you can use it for your next emo song.[/QUOTE]

I will remember that. My next emo song is going to be a hit.

i might even sell 30, ... nevermind.

[QUOTE=lilsolsman]I will remember that. My next emo song is going to be a hit.

i might even sell 30, ... nevermind.[/QUOTE]

30,000 reasons to forever.

Hey Guys, cut him a bit of slack, I managed to put flames aside for the greater good of the community :)

[url=30fukkin thousand!! BWahahahaahahaaaaa. This guy is a muppet][/url]

[QUOTE=EmergencyRoom]Hey Guys, cut him a bit of slack, I managed to put flames aside for the greater good of the community :)

[url=30fukkin thousand!! BWahahahaahahaaaaa. This guy is a muppet][/url][/QUOTE]

HAHA

I love you. I thought you had gone soft!

[QUOTE=apromisingyear]you have no leg to stand on telling me how i wrote my song...you werent in the room with me so please, shut up.[/QUOTE]

hahaha

you really are more retarded than i took you to be

[QUOTE=Straf]Aw, come on, "making sth up" is basically the definition of improvising. It isn't implied in the word "improvise" that is must be good, and/or done with great theoretical knowledge. I think.[/QUOTE]

No, making stuff up is [i]not[/i] the definition of improvising.

I Love This Thread...

[QUOTE=Eggo]No, making stuff up is [i]not[/i] the definition of improvising.[/QUOTE]

If that is [I]not[/I] the definition, then what might it be?

Dictionary.com:

1. To invent, compose, or perform with little or no preparation.
2. To play or sing (music) extemporaneously, especially by inventing variations on a melody or creating new melodies in accordance with a set progression of chords.

Well?

[QUOTE=Insomnidizzle]HAHA

I love you. I thought you had gone soft![/QUOTE]


I try my best :D

[QUOTE=Straf]If that is [I]not[/I] the definition, then what might it be?

Dictionary.com:

1. To invent, compose, or perform with little or no preparation.
2. To play or sing (music) extemporaneously, especially by inventing variations on a melody or creating new melodies in accordance with a set progression of chords.

Well?[/QUOTE]

You're seriously going to cite Dictionary.com on me? :lol:

The first definition is ridiculously off base.

The second one is somewhat closer, but still too simplistic.

If you ever happen to study jazz, you will find out that it is very difficult to actually define what improvisation is. Nearly every good book and educated person out there can tell you what improvisation isn't, but actually defining improvisation is a very difficult task.

[url=http://www.outsideshore.com/primer/primer/ms-primer-5.html]This[/url] is a nice, concise definition of improvisation, I think:

[quote=Marc Sabatella]The basis of traditional forms of improvisation is to create spontaneously and play melodies that are built on the basic chord progression of the song.[/quote]

The easiest way to understand improvisation is to listen to jazz :D

Maybe it's just ridiculously bad improvisation.

[QUOTE=Insomnidizzle]Maybe it's just ridiculously bad improvisation.[/QUOTE]

If it's that bad, then it's not improvisation anymore. It's just making stuff up like a fool.

[QUOTE=Eggo]If it's that bad, then it's not improvisation anymore. It's just making stuff up like a fool.[/QUOTE]


We should call it unprovisation.

[QUOTE=Insomnidizzle]We should call it unprovisation.[/QUOTE]

Paganinism sounds like a proper term.