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Adam Jones is GOD 10-10-2004 05:35 AM

I wonder if it was Maynard who had a direct hand in making the video, or whether it was another director who came forward with the proposal? maybe even Maynard has passed over into the video making area. Move over Mr Jones?


























....fat chance :D

Mega Tool 10-10-2004 07:33 AM

I know The Pieces Fit!
I know The Pieces Fit!
I know The Pieces Fit!
I know The Pieces Fit!
I know The Pieces Fit!

Adam Jones is GOD 10-10-2004 07:47 AM

Please do not spam this thread, no matter how cool of a lyrical spam it is. Only intelligent comments, or at least relevant ones

Otherside 10-10-2004 07:53 AM

Hmm... who would be interested in some song grudge matches? like.. Third Eye vs Hooker with a *****

Adam Jones is GOD 10-10-2004 07:58 AM

Could be an interesting idea...as long as people give some intelligent reasons why.

Edit: and oh yeah...ME FIRST!!!! ill take your example

Otherside 10-10-2004 10:03 AM

Unrelated to my last post: I just found something that relates to A perfect circles second album, 13th step. It has been theorized that the 13th step is about addiction to drugs, and the different steps invovled, and by the 13th step they have chosen to stop their addiction ect ect.

This is most likeley a coincidence but, the 13th amendment of the constitution abolishes slavery. In this case, it could relate to abolishing the slavery over the persons life by drugs. Am I reaching here?

The JoZ 10-10-2004 10:09 AM

I thought someone theorized that the 13th Step was starting your addiction over with, but the 13th amendment...interesting...

ThirteenthStep 10-10-2004 10:34 AM

I think Otherside could be right.... Because in Gravity the last words Maynards sings are "I choose to live", which probably means that the addiction will end, which would fit with the whole 13th amendment idea (thanks for telling me that)

also usually, when things appear coincidental with Tool/APC theyre prolly meant to be that way

deadohiosky9 10-10-2004 12:24 PM

Someone said someting about posting views no P.u****. Well that is one of my favorite tool songs, particularly for the lyrics and the emotion in the song. And the ending chords Adam plays are absoltely kick a.ss. I always thought P.u**** was about an abusive relationship, or possibly someone forcing something on him. "Theres no love in fear". "you're pushing and shoving, pushing and shoving me". That shows how it cold be an abusive relationship. But I don't have time ot go into detail right now. But I promise I'll post a more detailed interpretation of the song sometime later today.

ThirteenthStep 10-10-2004 02:25 PM

Push.it
 
While on the subject of Pus.hit (amazing song), have you guys heard the version of it on Salival??? I thought it was incredible... Its pretty different from the original. If you've heard it, what do you think about it?

Adam Jones is GOD 10-10-2004 02:27 PM

[QUOTE=ThirteenthStep]While on the subject of Pus.hit (amazing song), have you guys heard the version of it on Salival??? I thought it was incredible... Its pretty different from the original. If you've heard it, what do you think about it?[/QUOTE]


Greatest.Tool.Song.Ever

in my opinion of course. Like MJK states before the song, it really is looking at it from a different angle, and it becomes so much more epic

ThirteenthStep 10-10-2004 02:32 PM

i definitely agree.... maynard reaches another level with those vocals

x the patient x6 10-10-2004 03:56 PM

im sad that whoever that mod was closed my oh-so-successful thread...but at least it was "of large magnitude" or something to that effect, so im just going to eulogize it with this qoute from another mod from that very same thread


[QUOTE]I started to close this thread and move it to the Official Tool thread. I feel this thread deserves to stand alone as it reveals a much deeper problem of parental figures or authority types failing miserably to understand music in general. While they happen to be focused on Tool this could have easily been any band.

This is one of the better threads I have seen on MX. Good thread and great posts people....[/QUOTE]


ok later

Adam Jones is GOD 10-10-2004 04:04 PM

It was a good thread, it had some good opinions on misinterpretation as a whole of lyrics. However it did just become another 'questions about tool' thread, which is what this was created for

The JoZ 10-10-2004 04:07 PM

Honestly, I don't see how anyone can think Pus[color=white]h[/color]it is better than Third Eye.

There is really no comparison IMO...

Otherside 10-10-2004 04:08 PM

Intermission or Disgustipated are by far the best Tool songs.

Adam Jones is GOD 10-10-2004 04:10 PM

[QUOTE=The JoZ]Honestly, I don't see how anyone can think Pus[color=white]h[/color]it is better than Third Eye.

There is really no comparison IMO...[/QUOTE]

Third eye (to quote Justin) was 'the ultimate Aenima remix' . It is a fantastic song, but I still find the re worked version of Pu**** better, due to having the live recording (literally) which gives you the experience of hearing how they sound without all the studio dubbings. And it shows off the full power of MJK voice.

Third Eye is a better instrumental though

SonorKen 10-10-2004 04:16 PM

I don't really think of any songs being better than the other, they are all good and have thier place. I usually find that I have some songs I listen to more depending on my mood or enviroment.

Adam Jones is GOD 10-10-2004 04:18 PM

Same with me, but Pu**** will fufil my needs no matter what the mood. The song itself has so many moods, it covers most of my usual ones.


But i will still crave for 4 degrees after a while, **** that riff! :lol:

malignant5150 10-10-2004 04:26 PM

yeah push.its one of my favorite tool songs followed by bottom (i dont know why but i just love that song) ill start working on an interpretation of pus.hit sometime soon when i find the time

The JoZ 10-10-2004 04:29 PM

Well, I mean, the Live version of Third Eye outdoes even the Live Push*t I think...

Third Eye might not be their 'best' song, but I think it beats Push*t w/o a doubt...

Meh. :thumb:

ThirteenthStep 10-10-2004 04:43 PM

the transition between intermission and jimmy is cool
Same with parabol and parabola
Disposition/Reflection/Triad
Eon Blue Apocalypse/The Patient
any others?

Adam Jones is GOD 10-10-2004 04:45 PM

[QUOTE=ThirteenthStep]the transition between intermission and jimmy is cool
Same with parabol and parabola
[B]Disposition/Reflection/Triad[/B]
Eon Blue Apocalypse/The Patient
any others?[/QUOTE]

That one works the best as they used to be one song.

I think (could be having a blank out though) thats all the ones I could name

deadohiosky9 10-10-2004 07:28 PM

I agree that the live version of Push.it on Salival, is f.ucking amazing. I love the beginning riffs Adam plays. And what Maynard says before they play it. The song is done form a totally different angle, and I thought the push.it on Æenema was good, I was blown away with the live version. But Third Eye does have really good instrumental.

Why does it point left? 10-10-2004 07:56 PM

gotta love the lyrics to ticks and leeches
:thumb:

Master*of*Puppets 10-10-2004 08:30 PM

Hey, don't wanna seem like a newb but... i litterally havnt heard any Tool before and I hear they're f*ucking good. Could u guys suggest some of their best songs, thx.

SonorKen 10-10-2004 08:53 PM

Aenema, 46&2, Sober, Stinkfist, Parabola, Ticks and Leeches, You Lied, Prison Sex, that should get ya started.

nikkos 10-10-2004 08:58 PM

I haven't spent the time to read the whole post, but from what I glanced at about what people were saying about Eulogy, I saw no one brought up L. Ron Hubbard. I have heard from the person who got me into Tool that it was about him. After researching up on him and listening to his line in Aenima (F*** L. Ron Hubbard and f*** all his clones) I feel that it makes sense to be about him. Any thoughts?

nikkos 10-10-2004 09:00 PM

well that was my first post and I have no idea how these threads work so whatever... the message didn't show up where I thought it would... I didn't know there were um... 46 pages! so my post is probably irrelevant.

SonorKen 10-10-2004 09:03 PM

Nah, Eulogy is about Bill Hicks. The theory Aenema is based on is actually part of Bill Hicks comedy routine.

Welcome to the forum btw. Go read the rules for this section before ya log off.

ænima 10-10-2004 09:29 PM

i was read all about Bill Hicks it was amazing i told you everything about him on thi site but for some reason they shut it down a very amazing guy..

deadohiosky9 10-11-2004 09:31 AM

[QUOTE=Stagefrightken]Nah, Eulogy is about Bill Hicks. The theory Aenema is based on is actually part of Bill Hicks comedy routine.

Welcome to the forum btw. Go read the rules for this section before ya log off.[/QUOTE]

A lot of ppl have said its about him, but I don't know, they admired him a lot, I don't see why they would be so angry at him. Possibly anger at his death, since they liked him so much. Since we all do feel anger when someoen we love dies. What is everyone else's thoughts on this?

bebubly 10-11-2004 10:45 AM

anyone know where i can find out more about bill hicks and some of his material??

and to dead ohio sky...i guess the reason we feel so angry is because we feel we have been abandoned by that person, whether or not their death was their fault...and i guess if the person feeling the anger believes in a god they could also feel frustration towards their god for having that person taken away from them...but i'm not so sure about that because i'm not religious...but there's what i reckon...

epiphonegtrs8888 10-11-2004 10:46 AM

Eulogy is about Jesus, not Bill Hicks. The lyrics don't completely make sense if it's about Hicks. Like deadohiosky9 said, why would they be angry with him?

bebubly 10-11-2004 11:05 AM

i'm pretty sure i have read in many places that it is not just about jesus...and i have a feeling they did have hicks in mind whilst writing it...but i can't remember exactly how it relates to him...

clearvision 10-11-2004 11:09 AM

My opinon is that Eulogy are about people WANTING to be Jesus. Not the man himself. It makes alot of referneces to jesus, but thats because he is one of the most sucessful martyrs in history. The line that says to me it's not about Jesus is 'Not all martyrs see divinity, but atleast you tried'.

epiphonegtrs8888 10-11-2004 12:02 PM

I'm gonna' take back a little of what I said because you guys have a point.

deadohiosky9 10-11-2004 01:40 PM

Ya, I think it could be about ppl trying to be like Jesus. hence the line "we need the f.ucking space, to nail the next fool martyr." But I do sense some Bill Hicks anger. It could be a combination of both.

Adam Jones is GOD 10-11-2004 01:45 PM

[QUOTE=bebubly]anyone know where i can find out more about bill hicks and some of his material??
[/QUOTE]

Read 'Love all the People', it documents all his best material and other unreleased writings he had done. Or pick up one of his CDs, he recorded several shows onto CDs and released them, usually with music linking each segment. I would suggest Arizona Bay or Philospohy, which contains the best ones (spelt correctly on the CD, but not by me)

bebubly 10-11-2004 01:50 PM

thanks :thumb:

in a cheap way as i am just a mere child with no job and shoes with holes in them...hehe...any good sites to sample his material online??


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