Yeah I was just gonna say, they aren't even metalcore.

[QUOTE=Hbp;14891948]What would you call TN12LLY if Mathcore doesn't exist then?[/QUOTE]

1) Where are you hearing mathcore in TN12LLY?
2) Chris Pennie coined mathcore
3) TN12LLY do not sound anything like DEP
4) **** off.

I could never use the term "mathcore" in a serious way.

[QUOTE=RetiredAt21;14893009]I could never use the term "mathcore" in a serious way.[/QUOTE]

It's a decent blanket for bands but I feel like an asshole using it, so I always say it in quotes.

[QUOTE=Cocaine;14893020]It's a decent blanket for bands but I feel like an spatula using it, so I always say it in quotes.[/QUOTE]

Word.

Well if your angry at the state of which metalcore bands are discussed in this thread how about some suggestions so people like me can get into some older metalcore bands.

snapcase

Heard and listened to 'em. Quite good.

Zao
Old Hopesfall (more post hardcore, but everyone should hear No Wings To Speak Of at least once in their life)
Integrity

What exactly is mathcore?

A blanket term for bands with odd time signatures and rhythms, and usually discordant riffing.

I call it mostly ****, unless you consider Ion Dissonance 'mathcore'.

Ion Dissonance have one good album, everything else they've done is pretty bad.

So bands like car bomb are mathcore.

I hope you're at least talking about Breathing Is Irrelevant.

[QUOTE=Nepenthe;14893289]I hope you're at least talking about Breathing Is Irrelevant.[/QUOTE]

Of course, that album is amazing.

[quote=Cocaine;14893281]Ion Dissonance have one good album, everything else they've done is pretty bad.[/quote]
The only Ion Dissonance cd I don't like is Minus the Herd.

[QUOTE=Cocaine;14893020]It's a decent blanket for bands but I feel like an asshole using it, so I always say it in quotes.[/QUOTE]

But you're a genre nazi, so it doesn't really matter.

I don't have any TN12LLY records. I was going to get one, but I got Carcass instead. It was cheaper:thumb:

Not that they're at all metalcore, but I hadn't listened to them in a while, and now I am, and I remember how friggin awesome they are.

Mastodon.

[QUOTE=Hbp;14893464]But you're a genre nazi, so it doesn't really matter.

I don't have any TN12LLY records. I was going to get one, but I got Carcass instead. It was cheaper:thumb:[/QUOTE]

Yeah, but you're an idiot. The difference is I'm usually right with genres, and, well, you're an idiot.

How bout Dead to Fall??

[QUOTE=Cocaine;14893281]Ion Dissonance have one good album, everything else they've done is pretty bad.[/QUOTE]

Word.

Almost all of you fail at proper metalcore discussion.

But, well, I really don't care, so...

@ Cocaine

[QUOTE=RetiredAt21;14893563]Almost all of you fail at proper metalcore discussion.[/QUOTE]
i don't really listen to Metalcore anyways.

Then why did you bother posting in the forum dedicated to it?

[QUOTE=Hbp;14893634]Then why did you bother posting in the forum dedicated to it?[/QUOTE]
Because i like Dead to Fall?

Oh, nice. They're mediocre.

[QUOTE=gasmaskman;14893651]Because i like Dead to Fall?[/QUOTE]

Dead To Fall suck.

Pathetic actually, but I wanted him to feel special. He's new.

[QUOTE=Hbp;14893734]Pathetic actually, but I wanted him to feel special. He's new.[/QUOTE]
the thing is i don't care what people say about the music i listen to, i like them, and i don't care what you think about them.

**** He's back.