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deadohiosky9 09-17-2004 01:25 PM

Dude I have Squier too!!! I'm going to get a Epiphone Black Beauty soon though. My guitar is alright. It does what it needs to. But I do want a better one.

SonorKen 09-17-2004 02:37 PM

[QUOTE=CanadianToolBassist]i love jimmy for the song but not as much for the message (at all)[/QUOTE]

Jimmy kicks ***! Its pure anger, frustration, and raw emotion put into a song. Its one of the rare Tool songs, like Hush, that is in your face with a point blank direct message.

Capinspork 09-17-2004 02:37 PM

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NailHead 09-17-2004 02:44 PM

I've been in school for a week now and everyone there is into Tool and I've heard some of their stuff but never really listened. Can anyone recomend a CD that would be good for a first time buyer?

Adam Jones is GOD 09-17-2004 02:45 PM

Aenima


To any R/M mod, would it be possible for me to modify the first page of this thread to include answers to these FAQ?

joe_bass 09-17-2004 02:50 PM

Lateralus.

an_underused_memory 09-17-2004 03:37 PM

I think its best to start with Aenima, even though Lateralus is (to me) a superior album, L is the sort of thing you can take ages to get into, whereas at least some tracks of Aenima you can comprehend more easily...songs like stinkfist and H are great songs for the tool virgin, methinks!
On the same token, i think L is appreciated [I]much[/I] more with a prior knowledge of tool...
and having said that, its just as possible to go back and start with opiate, cause its still brilliant!

populuspwellus 09-17-2004 03:39 PM

um no way, i wouldnt compare opiate to tool's new stuff

its on such a different level

xtreme450 09-17-2004 04:25 PM

it seems to me like tool didn't sound as serious on opiate as they did on lateralus...but thats just me

deadohiosky9 09-17-2004 06:21 PM

[QUOTE=xtreme450]it seems to me like tool didn't sound as serious on opiate as they did on lateralus...but thats just me[/QUOTE]

Ya ur right. I don't think they were as serious. It was sorta just like their introduction . Get their opinions out. More aggressive raw stuff. If your into that stuff, then earlier Tool is for u. Their newer stuff is deeper and a lot to take in. I agree with AUM that Aenima is a good one to start with.

Neurotoxin 09-17-2004 08:30 PM

Opiate was their first CD, and obviously it'll be quite different from their latest. It was straight up rock, less progression.

Both albums are great in their own way. Cold and Ugly, Opiate, Hush and Jerk-Off... err, every song from Opiate is great.

ænima 09-17-2004 08:55 PM

Yeah Opiate is a mean album i think its was good that they had the two live songs on it. what do you think about Undertow? i think its really good and that to me was a different type of tool compeared to ænima and Lateralus. F*ck i just can wait to hear thier new album. i think that it was again be different but somehow i dont think it will be and good as both ænima nd Lateralus but i surrpose i will just have to wait and see.

Im also looking forward to the Tool DVD coming out and A Perfect Circle, even though its a cover album (besides from two new songs) i think it will be great, they coverd The Nurse Who Loved Me and i liked it better than the origanal so Maynard will have some great way to make all those songs good. CAN'T WAIT!!!

Lateralias 09-17-2004 09:41 PM

[QUOTE=ænima]Yeah Opiate is a mean album i think its was good that they had the two live songs on it. what do you think about Undertow? i think its really good and that to me was a different type of tool compeared to ænima and Lateralus. F*ck i just can wait to hear thier new album. i think that it was again be different but somehow i dont think it will be and good as both ænima nd Lateralus but i surrpose i will just have to wait and see.
[/QUOTE]

I absolutely love Undertow, Im more of a fan of Aenima and Lateralus, but the more and more I listen to Undertow songs (4 degrees, Bottom, Flood) the more I fall in love with that album. Its Tool's heaviest album in my opinion, who knows though, from what they've (Tool) said, this next release might top it. For those who want to check out more of the material on Undertow I suggest the three songs above and the title track, heck... the whole album is great.

novus_opiate 09-17-2004 09:52 PM

how true. everything on here, well except of course those of you who dislike tool. i think there are so many people who cannot stand tool, so many who love them, and so few who merely like them. i think that most of us who love tool, love it so much, that there isnt really that much of a "middle class" of tool lovers. oh and yes we cannot forget the tool haters. i must say i was one of those people who didnt even know tool. and then my buddy gave me their cd lateralus. needless to say.....it blew me away. i can only sit dumbfounded on how danny carey can find the strength in his arms, and the talent in his mind to play the drums like he does. utterly unbelivable. i jsut want to curl up into a ball on a nice padded something and listen to salival forever.

Lateralias 09-17-2004 09:57 PM

[QUOTE=novus_opiate] i think there are so many people who cannot stand tool, so many who love them, and so few who merely like them. i think that most of us who love tool, love it so much, that there isnt really that much of a "middle class" of tool lovers. oh and yes we cannot forget the tool haters. i must say i was one of those people who didnt even know tool. and then my buddy gave me their cd lateralus. needless to say.....it blew me away.[/QUOTE]

You either love Tool or absolutely despise and hate them. My friend use to hate Tool with a passion after hearing Hooker with a *****, and I told him thats not a good example of what Tool sounds like in general, regardless, a week later I showed him some songs off Lateralus and he instantly fell in love.

ænima 09-17-2004 11:14 PM

yeah im only 15 and i had a listen to Tool at my friends house and that was when i was about 5years ago and when we no longer saw each other i didnt listenm to them anymore probably only because abot .0001% of fans are under ten (to interest in eminem) anyway when i was bout 13 i for somne strange reason i jst bout Opiate for the old $9.99 and it started from there! haha sorry for my life story the only reason im writting this is because.. because.. Im just a really big Tool fan and i think you should just all know this Cu (see what listen to TOOL does to you :)

LittleBassGirl 09-17-2004 11:51 PM

I was introduced to Tool when Aenima came out and instantly loved it, then went backwards and got Opiate and Undertow. I was nervous when Lateralus was coming out as I couldn't believe that Aenima could be topped but of course was wrong. What all this is getting to is that I believe that the progression of these albums mirrors a progression of the band (obviously) from young aggressive somewhat antisocial individuals to adults that think about their world and see some hope within it amongst all the crap that they are still fighting. This reflected my own progression and their music has helped me along the way. As nearly everyone here has said, you either love them or hate them and it's always a pleasure to find another Tool fan in the crowd.

BlinDecsent 09-18-2004 01:41 AM

I heard somewhere on some poll that Aenima was the greatest cd of the 90's. And I knew that I didnt have it; so I went out like a magnet was drawing me to the local record store and found Aenima all shiny and double imaged. I thought wow I would get it on the album cover alone. But then i saw the $30 (canadian) price tag and norlally anything over 25 i consider out of my price range. But what baffles me is that I thought nothing of it. I just got out my wallet and bought the cd and then listned to it from front to back I think 5 times that night.

I was amazed that I had gone so many years without tool. I almost regret the fact that I didnt listen to them earlier but i am equally thankful that I have all their cds minus salival cause i cant find it.

Tool continues to amaze me with all aspects of their creations. The new album will rival only Lateralus in about a decade or so for best cd of the 00's. And hopefully with that new album comes a nice big tour that includes all major canadian cities...

PowerStamp 09-18-2004 02:00 AM

Ok bear with me as I didn't read all 34 pages (I will later though)

I just wanna say that Danny Carey is just amazing...simply amazing.
Not only is he a great drummer, but he uses science and mathematics with the functions of circles and relativity to set up his drumset. While his set is nothing next to Bozzios or Portnoys, he does a crapload with what he has.

Not only that, but he has studied for many many years on many different types of drums and drumming techniques.

For drummers and non-drummers alike (I myself am the former) check this out to make your jaw drop:
[url]http://www.dannycarey.com[/url]
Go to 'philosophy" then go "Education", then go "Cyber Clinic", then watch the 3rd link.

Its the drum solo break in 46&2 video.
AMAZING.

BlinDecsent 09-18-2004 02:07 AM

isn't it danny carey . org? AdamJonesIsGod already posted that a while ago so i know what your talking about. I totally agree with his amazing technique. Definately one of the best drummers to pick up sticks. The amazing thing is how he doesnt overly stand out either. Very rarely will he do something like the solo in 46&2; most the time his drumming is nothing short of perfection to what ever it is hes drumming to.

PowerStamp 09-18-2004 02:49 AM

I just checked .org, and they both take you to the same spot.

Yeah, true he doesn't really go off completely that much, it's usually just very tight rhythms that tend to change time signature a lot.
He's simply amazing though.
As it says on the other 2 links at the site, he plays the drums to the melody of the bass, guitar, and even maynard's voice, so he just doesn't keep the time, he plays with the band.

ALSO I read an interview where he says he actually TUNES his drums to notes...he said something along the lines that "Most TOOL songs are in D, so I'll tune my drums to A, D, and F live", and he said that he'd tune his drums for each song in the studio, so ****.

Adam Jones is GOD 09-18-2004 04:18 AM

Wow, the last page was cool to read, it was almost like one of those new age Christian services, where everyone jumps up and praises tool for what they have done for them. Good to read so many positive things

Since people are digging Danny's drumming at the moment, for those Gmail users out there, if anyone hasn't heard danny's live drum solo yet, Ill be willing to send it out to anyone who puts their address up. Though im sure most of you have heard it.

Adam Jones is GOD 09-18-2004 04:41 AM

And for the 'holy gift' subject, and the continuing Doom 3 questions, Blair has put up some stuff on both [url]http://www.toolband.com/news/index.html[/url]

an_underused_memory 09-18-2004 08:02 AM

yeah, I agree bout the christian service style efforts of the last page!
its great - a tool revival meet!
I'm in the same basket as little bass girl - your story is exact parallel to mine....
I'd stinkfist on the radio for a while and loved it, so when aenima came out i bought it when i was away on a school trip....imagine the fustration..... the 'greatest album of the 90s' (as someone mentioned) sitting in my bag for a week, when I didn't have a cd player...the anticipation made it sooo much sweeter!
although as a 14 year old, i distinctly remember not getting third eye at all...

an_underused_memory 09-18-2004 08:06 AM

a short survey..
how many of you fans of tool play an instrument?
if so, which instrument(s)?
who knows (or is) a tool fan who [I]doesn't[/I] play intruments? (i only know three offhand)

nrvn55 09-18-2004 09:24 AM

i think that tool is a band that is only understood if you do play an instrument. tool is just such a great techinical band it is hard not to love them. alot of my girl friends don;t like tool, but they always mention how much they like maynard's voice. i don;t know, i don;t know off the top iof my head any one who likes tool the doesn;t play an instrument of some sort.

Adam Jones is GOD 09-18-2004 09:49 AM

[QUOTE=an_underused_memory]a short survey..
how many of you fans of tool play an instrument?
if so, which instrument(s)?
who knows (or is) a tool fan who [I]doesn't[/I] play intruments? (i only know three offhand)[/QUOTE]


*raises hand*

I play the guitar, and it was thanks to adam that I bought one. Its true that once you play an instrument, you appreciate the music a lot more, since learning songs like Sober and The Patient its showed my how clever and creative a player Adam really is.

Lateralias 09-18-2004 10:18 AM

[QUOTE=an_underused_memory]a short survey..
how many of you fans of tool play an instrument?
if so, which instrument(s)?
who knows (or is) a tool fan who [I]doesn't[/I] play intruments? (i only know three offhand)[/QUOTE]

Drums, yes you got it, Danny definitely inspired me to play. What drummer wouldnt be inspired by him? :)

malignant5150 09-18-2004 11:09 AM

[QUOTE=Adam Jones is GOD]*raises hand*

I play the guitar, and it was thanks to adam that I bought one. Its true that once you play an instrument, you appreciate the music a lot more, since learning songs like Sober and The Patient its showed my how clever and creative a player Adam really is.[/QUOTE]
yeah i play guitar to but i started playing just because i wanted to :thumb:

deadohiosky9 09-18-2004 12:01 PM

I also play guitar. More because all the music I listen to has guitar in it, and I was drawn to it. But Adam and Tool have definetly inspired me to start a band, and is a big influence on my riffs.


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