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LifeIsDandy 11-18-2004 09:08 PM

[QUOTE=relliK]It seems to me that the only problem you have with Vol.3 is the fact that you no longer feel unique for liking Slipknot.SO WHAT IF THEY GET RADIO PLAY!!!Its people like you that plague the Slipknot fanbase.[B]I noticed that MANY of the idiot fans are now abandoning Slipknot after making Vol.3.Thats good[/B](imo)Clown himself said that the fans who understood what Slipknot was doing on it will continue to stick them.So far he is correctomundo!![/QUOTE]

Well said. :thumb: People don't want to like to Slipnkot anymore because they're becoming popular, but the loyal fans seem to understand. Sure this isn't their best album, but it is radio friendly (unlike some previous albums) and if they're getting radio play it's not a big deal. This same radio play is also drawing in new fans, some of which will search deeper to find out about Slipknot's past albums, and perhaps they'll come to enjoy the finer points of Slipknot. Don't get me wrong, Vol. 3 is a great album with a lot of diversity, but (imo) it doesn't seem to compare to previous works by them. It's kind of nice to see Slipknot is trying expand their horizons...

Theppunisher 11-18-2004 09:19 PM

Its really not a matter of radio play its a matter of sound its wayyyyyyyy to distant from iowa and the first album they were insane however i did find some form a remaning old slipknot in the blister exists

LifeIsDandy 11-18-2004 09:35 PM

[QUOTE=Theppunisher]Its really not a matter of radio play its a matter of sound its wayyyyyyyy to distant from iowa and the first album they were insane however i did find some form a remaning old slipknot in the blister exists[/QUOTE]

:wave: Welcome!

I see your point, but you have to give them credit for trying something new. They new they were either going to make a great album that people thought was amazing or people would think it was crap. They took a risk, and even though the sound is very different, it's still not a total failure. And it doesn't help that Corey's voice isn't as good as it used to be, because his vocal chords are getting really damaged.

Brew 11-19-2004 03:11 PM

So...I downloaded an apparent cover of Panteras ''Fu[B]c[/B]king Hostile'' by Slipknot, and instead of being a brutally fast song...

...its Blues/Cool Jazz.

I'm guessing its a mis-named file, but I know that the 'knot had Jazz influences back in the MFKR days, so it may be them playing the song but I really don't know. Also, there are no lyrics.

But still, its a good piece of Blues/Cool Jazz :)

munky_magik 11-19-2004 05:00 PM

[QUOTE=Lord Brummington]So...I downloaded an apparent cover of Panteras ''Fu[B]c[/B]king Hostile'' by Slipknot, and instead of being a brutally fast song...

...its Blues/Cool Jazz.

I'm guessing its a mis-named file, but I know that the 'knot had Jazz influences back in the MFKR days, so it may be them playing the song but I really don't know. Also, there are no lyrics.

But still, its a good piece of Blues/Cool Jazz :)[/QUOTE]

what you might have stumbled on there is Carnival in Coal. I know that they did a cover like that of f[SIZE=2]u[/SIZE]cking hostile, But I've never heard very much. They also covered baker street

paper2302 11-19-2004 09:12 PM

Vol:3 is the true Slipknot. Rick Rubin let them do what they wanted, they are stil the same, they play songs from every album live. When a band plays live, thats the band.

Vol:3 is the best, along with the rest.

BlindWriting 11-19-2004 11:55 PM

[QUOTE=LifeIsDandy]Where did you find it? I've looked in numerous places, I even searched ebay a while back and I couldn't find a copy :upset:[/QUOTE]
Strange, I've been on eBay fairly recently, and I found plenty of copies of MFKR.
Keep Looking.

TheSubtleArts 11-20-2004 09:07 AM

does any1 kno were to see the vermilion pt.2 video that just came out. ive been looking but havent found it yet, it was just released this weekend i think.

greendaykid 11-20-2004 09:29 AM

here iz my list
1.heretic anthem
2.duality
3.spit it out
4.three nil
5.left behind
6.wait and bleed(an alltim sk classic)
7.people=sh1t
8.sic
9.the blister exists
10.disaster pieces
11.virus of life
12.vermilion pt.1&2
13.welcome
14.opium of the people
15.pulse of the maggots
16.the nameless
17.before i forget
18.circle
19.don't get close
20.i dont have a 20th favorite

greendaykid 11-20-2004 09:30 AM

i know mudvayne

greendaykid 11-20-2004 01:17 PM

slipknot iz awsome!have any of u all seen the newest hit parader yet? it iz awsome! it has joey jordison(the drummer) on the cover! and the centerfold iz a pic. of corey taylor singing!

greendaykid 11-20-2004 01:21 PM

hey mudvayne3b i know where to git it it iz called [url]www.slipknotcpd.com[/url]. i git all my slipknot info there trust me :thumb:

shortass 11-20-2004 01:42 PM

[QUOTE=greendaykid]here iz my list
1.heretic anthem
2.duality
3.spit it out
4.three nil
5.left behind
6.wait and bleed(an alltim sk classic)
7.people=sh1t
8.sic
9.the blister exists
10.disaster pieces
11.virus of life
12.vermilion pt.1&2
13.welcome
14.opium of the people
15.pulse of the maggots
16.the nameless
17.before i forget
18.circle
19.don't get close
20.i dont have a 20th favorite[/QUOTE]
You just practically went through the entire new album

Brew 11-20-2004 02:07 PM

Greendaykid - The edit button is your friend :thumb:

[QUOTE]what you might have stumbled on there is Carnival in Coal. I know that they did a cover like that of ****ing hostile, But I've never heard very much. They also covered baker street[/QUOTE]

Cool. :)

ToRidTheDisease 11-20-2004 02:11 PM

I just found some cool Slipknot jeans on ebay.

The JoZ 11-20-2004 02:19 PM

[url]http://www.slipknot-metal.com[/url] has the new Vermilion Pt 2 video.

It made less sense than a Tool video, and that's hard to do, since Tool videos are usually the epitome of not making sense. Kudos to Slipknot for making something that rivals the awesomeness of not making sense that is usually reserved for Tool music videos.

[quote]Don't get me wrong, Vol. 3 is a great album with a lot of diversity, but (imo) it doesn't seem to compare to previous works by them. It's kind of nice to see Slipknot is trying expand their horizons...[/quote]

I'm going to totally agree, but not in the same context.

Volume 3 does NOT compare to their previous works. It is head and shoulders above both the Self-Titled album and Iowa.

The first two albums were commercial successes because they appealed to the crowd of kids who wanted music to be hardcore, but accessable. Slipknot did that. No, I am not saying Slipknot is in the hardcore genre, but they did appeal to the masses with screaming, fast double bass and dual distorted guitars. Their M.O. was to create loud, fast music, that was catchy in some way. And they did a good job of it.

The only reason their earlier music wasn't, for the most part, "radio friendly" was because they said "f[color=white]u[/color]ck" every other lyric in most of their songs. That meant that they would've had to butcher their songs to get them on the radio, which wouldn't have been good. "Wait and Bleed" was a good single because he didn't swear in the song, which means they didn't have to really edit it to put it on the radio. It was short, had a very catchy chorus, and was loud and fast. That meant radio success.

Now, look at the Volume 3 stuff. I'm not sure I would call any of it "radio friendly", along the same vein as Linkin Park, or Trapt, or anything like that...but the lack of swearing definetly makes it easier to get on the radio. The fact that they are getting radio play is not a bad thing by any means, especially not with songs as strong as the ones off Volume 3. I fail to see why anyone would equate radio play with failure :thumb:

Candiria92 11-20-2004 02:38 PM

[QUOTE]Originally Posted by [B]The JoZ[/B]
Volume 3 does NOT compare to their previous works. It is head and shoulders above both the Self-Titled album and Iowa.

The first two albums were commercial successes because they appealed to the crowd of kids who wanted music to be hardcore, but accessable. Slipknot did that. No, I am not saying Slipknot is in the hardcore genre, but they did appeal to the masses with screaming, fast double bass and dual distorted guitars. Their M.O. was to create loud, fast music, that was catchy in some way. And they did a good job of it.

The only reason their earlier music wasn't, for the most part, "radio friendly" was because they said "****" every other lyric in most of their songs. That meant that they would've had to butcher their songs to get them on the radio, which wouldn't have been good. "Wait and Bleed" was a good single because he didn't swear in the song, which means they didn't have to really edit it to put it on the radio. It was short, had a very catchy chorus, and was loud and fast. That meant radio success.

Now, look at the Volume 3 stuff. I'm not sure I would call any of it "radio friendly", along the same vein as Linkin Park, or Trapt, or anything like that...but the lack of swearing definetly makes it easier to get on the radio. The fact that they are getting radio play is not a bad thing by any means, especially not with songs as strong as the ones off Volume 3. I fail to see why anyone would equate radio play with failure[/QUOTE]

That is pretty much my opinion exactly, although, I not sure they do get a whole lot of radio play.

The JoZ 11-20-2004 02:41 PM

[QUOTE=Candiria92]That is pretty much my opinion exactly, although, I not sure they do get a whole lot of radio play.[/QUOTE]

Well, my station has played "Duality" and "Vermilion" a decent number of times, whereas "Wait and Bleed" was a rarity..

i am the robots 11-20-2004 02:44 PM

I really can't stand Slipknot, but I heard a song that they did with Korn, that was really good...[I] No Shame[/I] or something like that.

The JoZ 11-20-2004 03:40 PM

No such song exists...

Not one of the Slipknot sites I go to mention it, and they go into good detail about rare or unreleased tracks...and not one collaboration with Korn is mentioned.

If you downloaded it, I think it's good to assume it was a misnamed file...

The Spliggity Splot 11-20-2004 04:23 PM

I don't like slipknot

The JoZ 11-20-2004 04:41 PM

[QUOTE=The Spliggity Splot]I don't like slipknot[/QUOTE]

Then don't post here.

It's clearly obvious you didn't even read the thread.

-my-death-1 11-20-2004 04:51 PM

Hey, i like most of there songs...
i think there quite origional...if you dont name 1 band thats simular to them!! I also think they are talented, Joey is a great drummer, mick is a great guitarist and coreys voice is amazing...they sound great you've got to at least liek one song the've done some amazing songs! i like:
wait and bleed,
the heretic anthem,
duality,
vermillion 1,
vermillion 2,
the nameless,
circle,
left behind!
:)

AshesOfHate 11-20-2004 05:58 PM

see i love vol.3 but its not the same the guitars got better but the vocals got less hars and corey got less pissed off

BlindWriting 11-20-2004 10:12 PM

[QUOTE=Eleventeen]I really can't stand Slipknot, but I heard a song that they did with Korn, that was really good...[I] No Shame[/I] or something like that.[/QUOTE]
There is no Slipknot/Korn collaboration. You're thinking of the song "Lookaway" by Sepultura, which features Jonathan Davis. The song is on their album Roots. I can see why someone would make that mistake, but trust me on this, it's not Slipknot playing that song.

BlindWriting 11-20-2004 10:14 PM

By the way, I just saw the "Vermillion Pt. 2" video.
It was awful.
God awful.
The girl from "Vermillion" is lying in a field by a big tree. She starts floating around for three minutes.
End of story.
Definitely their worst video, and that's hard, coming from a great band whose videos always suck horribly.

Everything_and_Nothing_3:15 11-20-2004 10:22 PM

Vermillion pt 2 was possibly the worst vid ever, they're now tied with tool for worst music video ever. Slipknot is one of my favorite bands but that vid was a down grade for them.

TheSubtleArts 11-21-2004 02:16 PM

i think slipknot has now surpast tool for wierdest videos. Vermilion was wird and hard to figure out, but vermilion pt.2 had just absolutly no point.

Huber 11-24-2004 03:59 PM

I like Videos better when it mainly just shows the band playing. Like the old videos.

D5-11 11-24-2004 04:05 PM

yea with the huge a$$ moshes around em all. those were so ****ing awesome


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