Asif he does.

Or maybe we just have different definitions of shred, Yngwie is someone who shreds all the time, Petrucci shreds, but not enough.

He shreds enough in my opinion. We don't need more, I struggle to play the songs as they are.

Damn, I love it...

I want more Erotomania's god damnit.

*Sigh* ... Maybe just another Awake... :smoke:

Edit: Mmm.. Listenning to Overture 1928 from LSFNY... Mmmm :drools:

If he wrote more solos like the Erotomania one, that'd be great.

[QUOTE=Chu]Damn, I love it...

I want more Erotomania's god damnit.

*Sigh* ... Maybe just another Awake... :smoke:

Edit: Mmm.. Listenning to Overture 1928 from LSFNY... Mmmm :drools:[/QUOTE]

Overture 1928 is probably my favorite DT instrumental, and imo Jordan's best keyboard solo.

The piano bits in that & Strange deja vu are amazing.

i dont know about u guys but i think they need to make another liquid tension album.

It'll never happen. :(

have they completely canned LTE? its probably old news but i live under a rock... :)

and yeah, Overture 1928 and Strange Deja Vu are 10 of the best minutes in music around...

[QUOTE=ThunderBass]have they completely canned LTE? its probably old news but i live under a rock... :)

and yeah, Overture 1928 and Strange Deja Vu are 10 of the best minutes in music around...[/QUOTE]

yea they've canned LTE for now.

NP: biaxident-LTE

overture 1928 is my favorite instrumental as well. it's actualyl pretty playable also. im not even gonna try and play any ToT songs...

[QUOTE=Chu]Asif he does.

Or maybe we just have different definitions of shred, Yngwie is someone who shreds all the time, Petrucci shreds, but not enough.[/QUOTE]

this is true. this is true.
i'd change that to say "yngwie is someone who shreds all the time, Petrucci shreds just not as much."
not enough and not as much are 2 different things :smoke:

[QUOTE=ghettoeddo]this is true. this is true.
i'd change that to say "yngwie is someone who shreds all the time, Petrucci shreds just not as much."
not enough and not as much are 2 different things :smoke:[/QUOTE]
Well it's both, not as much, and not enough! :smoke:

Edit: I really love Petrucci's mastery(?) of the fretboard, I wish he would release a Yngwie-esque style shred CD.
Listenning to anything by LTE, DT or JP, the second JP begins a Lead/Riff, I just get so excited, even if it's a song I've heard x^10 times, each time I listen to it, I pick up on something subtle that I missed out on before.

I really like John Petrucci as a guitarist, I think if I had to pick a biggest influence, technique-wise it would be JP, I have studied his technique so much, and my own technique is derived heavily from his...

I heard people calling Suspended Animation a shred album when it first came out, well yeah it has glimpses of shred, but it's pretty far from a full blown shred album imo (My mum enjoys Suspended Animation, my mate's enjoy Suspended Animation, but put on a song which is played by say Yngwie, and they hate it).

>_>

I'm really starting to dig 8vm more now. The title track is really blowing me away, and I'm progressing into loving the other songs.

I'd say Petrucci is probably one of the best guitarists when he tries to put some emotion in his solos. There was an improv solo at Gigantour last year at the end of In The Name Of God, and it was probably one of the best and most emotional solos I've ever heard. I don't really like his shredding though, it's just too exact.

Octavarium is probably their best really really long song to me. It takes a while to kick in but when it does it's really awesome.

[QUOTE=Moses]I'd say Petrucci is probably one of the best guitarists when he tries to put some emotion in his solos. There was an improv solo at Gigantour last year at the end of In The Name Of God, and it was probably one of the best and most emotional solos I've ever heard. I don't really like his shredding though, it's just too exact.

Octavarium is probably their best really really long song to me. It takes a while to kick in but when it does it's really awesome.[/QUOTE]

glad to see some petrucci fans on thsi forum.
it's the "in" thing to bash him just because he's somewhat good :rolleyes:
no matter what people say, the man plays w/ so much soul...they relaly haven't heard the variety of his solos if all they say is "he shreds."

and to whomever said "he's too exact in shredding", since when was precision a bad thing? :confused: i thought precision was a good thing all the time. unless you're talking like...free-flow hendrix-ish dealio

octavarium is my favorite epic. more so than ACOS and LTL.

Well, Petrucci's shred just sounds like needles. It's okay sometimes but most of the time it's just annoying. I'd rather hear his soul.

Petrucci actually playing > Petrucci Shred

That's all I'm really saying.

hokay :smoke:

i agree w/ that too. and he most defiitely can actually "play."

I prefer AOCS to 8VM, personally.

There's not enough times I can listen to the former in a day I like it so much.

[QUOTE=Moses]Petrucci actually playing > Petrucci Shred

That's all I'm really saying.[/QUOTE]
Definately, but the man can make some pretty good shred....

[QUOTE=Moses]Well, Petrucci's shred just sounds like needles. It's okay sometimes but most of the time it's just annoying. I'd rather hear his soul.

Petrucci actually playing > Petrucci Shred

That's all I'm really saying.[/QUOTE]


I don't know why so many people bash Petrucci, to me he is awsome, shred or not.
lol, yeah the As I Am solo sounds like needles.

To me Petrucci is GOD.

Ok, that's cleared. Petrucci is absolutely awesome.

NP: I Walk Beside You (don't particularly like this song, but I'm listening through the entire album many times over).

Yeah just don't say that anywhere near the guitar forums.

But I do agree.

Can anyone hear what is being sung by the back up singer at the end of ITNOG?

Do you mean the choir?

[QUOTE=ever eeking always rupert]Can anyone hear what is being sung by the back up singer at the end of ITNOG?[/QUOTE]

The chant/hymn is called "The Battle Hymn of the Republic", and it was written by Julia Ward Howe in 1861 during the Civil War to the tune of a popular camp song of the time.

The verse sung in "In the Name of God" is as follows:

Mine eyes have seen the glory of the coming of the Lord;
He is trampling out the vintage where the grapes of wrath are stored;
He hath loosed the fateful lightning of His terrible swift sword;
His truth is marching on.

Glory! Glory! Hallelujah!
Glory! Glory! Hallelujah!
Glory! Glory! Hallelujah!
His truth is marching on.

[QUOTE=Flower Dance]Yeah just don't say that anywhere near the guitar forums.

But I do agree.[/QUOTE]

i still fail to understand why he's bashed so much. it's clear he has compositional and technical prowess and complete fingerboard mastery.
he lacks a little bit in emotive playing w/ dream theater (but his other stuff, he shines through) and maybe a product of hours and hours of precise metronomical playing, but i have never thought that to be a bad thing.

as a musician of 10+ years myself, that's the ultimate goal every musician strives to be (in the classical world at least). precision, technical and expressive mastery.

Why is he bashed so much?
Because some of the most influential posters in there don't like him and somehow it caught on and now it's cool to hate him.

[QUOTE=Tails]The chant/hymn is called "The Battle Hymn of the Republic", and it was written by Julia Ward Howe in 1861 during the Civil War to the tune of a popular camp song of the time.

The verse sung in "In the Name of God" is as follows:

Mine eyes have seen the glory of the coming of the Lord;
He is trampling out the vintage where the grapes of wrath are stored;
He hath loosed the fateful lightning of His terrible swift sword;
His truth is marching on.

Glory! Glory! Hallelujah!
Glory! Glory! Hallelujah!
Glory! Glory! Hallelujah!
His truth is marching on.[/QUOTE]
Wow thanks. Interesting stuff.

I'm learning the part in The Glass Prison during the verse where Rudess brings back that lead that was first done on guitar. It's around 3:40-3:50ish. Not as hard as it sounds.

Yeah, Petrucci's Arpeggio run in The Glass Prison is a good place to start with sweeping imo.. Only 3 strings, and it has some rolling.