[QUOTE=Paranoidd]I heart Mitch Mitchell.

Meh, I'm sure there are tons of better drummers than Peart, however most great drummers get involved with Jazz, due to it's improv and tricky timing tendencies.

I don't know if Peart could do Gadd, or vice versa.[/QUOTE]
I honestly don't think anyone could do gadd, I just love his feel.

Jazz drumming awesome though, loads of legends are jazz drummers, too bad all the kids think they're nothing compared to travis!

haha, yeah. But they're just ignorant. I feel sorry for them.

oh my lord..thats quite the resume (is that the word im looking for?) he's got there. i've heard a lot of stuff from most of those artists..im really impressed.

so whats Gadd's first (or maybe last im not sure) name?

[QUOTE=Paranoidd]These videos better be good, I had to download stupid quicktime to watch them.[/QUOTE]
The videos are worth it. and while you're on there check out some of the drum battles, tis why drums >guitar. :p
Have you heard aja and fifty ways to leave your lover? they're probably his two most popular works and with good reason.

[QUOTE=thickasabrick]oh my lord..thats quite the resume (is that the word im looking for?) he's got there. i've heard a lot of stuff from most of those artists..im really impressed.

so whats Gadd's first (or maybe last im not sure) name?[/QUOTE]
Steve, Steve Gadd.

im a huge fan of jazz music. every night when i come home from teaching guitar, i turn to the classical radio station because they have the jazz and blues hour every night at ten. its awesome to just unwind and indulge in some jazz as im driving home after a long night.

more people should listen to jazz...if not for the actual music, just for the inspiration.

Well I'm watching the videos, and he is an excellent drummer. I think Peart is just as capable.

[QUOTE=Paranoidd]Well I'm watching the videos, and he is an excellent drummer. I think Peart is just as capable.[/QUOTE]
I don't I think peart is amazing, great drummer. But I watch gadd and I am just completely blown away. It makes me want to either a) give up b)play drums every second of my life.

what are you guys basing your judgement on, speed? style? technical ability? i dont know the etiquette behind criticizing drummers.

thats right....i used the word etiquette

I guess you have to have seen him live. I mean, playing rock and playing jazz you're going to sound different. Playing the insane shuffle and timing that Gadd does is what every jazz drummer tries to do. Peart can do similar stuff, I've seen it. Maybe Gadd is better, I don't care, it's a stupid thing to argue about. You can compare Paul Bostaph and Dave Lombardo but you don't compare Cozy Powell and Danny Carey.

[QUOTE=thickasabrick]what are you guys basing your judgement on, speed? style? technical ability? i dont know the etiquette behind criticizing drummers.

thats right....i used the word etiquette[/QUOTE]
not speed, all the pros are fast enough it doesn't matter. Style, musicality, technical ability. The thing I love about gadds drumming is it opens up so many new possibilities for songs because it's not just "wow look how fast he is" good, he's incredible technically and combined with his musicality....

Ten years after!!
 

Alvin Lee of Ten years after is a suberb guitarist and songwriter. Ten years after is one of the greatest blues rock (classic rock as well) bands of all time. Im sure everyone would recoginze the song "I'd love to change the world" if they heard it, and say 'oh yeah!, they're great'.

Ten years after!!
 

Alvin Lee of Ten years after is a superb guitarist and songwriter. Ten years after is one of the greatest blues rock (classic rock as well) bands of all time. Im sure everyone would recoginze the song "I'd love to change the world" if they heard it, and say 'oh yeah!, they're great'.

[QUOTE=thickasabrick]what are you guys basing your judgement on, speed? style? technical ability? i dont know the etiquette behind criticizing drummers.

thats right....i used the word etiquette[/QUOTE]

Personally, I'm looking at speed, limb independance, cadence, structure, creativity/composition, overall rythym, ability to fit the music, etc.

I mean, Peart uses a big kit compared to most drummers. Gadd's in miniscule compared to Peart's, who goes all the way around. I mean, Peart does latin percussion, woodblocks, electronic triggers, etc. It's difficult to compare them unless they were both playing the same thing.

about the whole speed thing...i noticed lots of metal drummers these days are using double kick bass drum dealys. is that just to make up for lack of talent? or is it just for a more deep "metal" sound?

[QUOTE=Paranoidd]I guess you have to have seen him live. I mean, playing rock and playing jazz you're going to sound different. Playing the insane shuffle and timing that Gadd does is what every jazz drummer tries to do. Peart can do similar stuff, I've seen it. Maybe Gadd is better, I don't care, it's a stupid thing to argue about. You can compare Paul Bostaph and Dave Lombardo but you don't compare Cozy Powell and Danny Carey.[/QUOTE]
I've seen them both live. I don't really care, I'm not in this to prove to you anything, I think showing you gadd is enough. But for me Gadd is the man, he is my main inspiration.

[QUOTE=thickasabrick]about the whole speed thing...i noticed lots of metal drummers these days are using double kick bass drum dealys. is that just to make up for lack of talent? or is it just for a more deep "metal" sound?[/QUOTE]
It's not to make up for a lack of talent you simply can't go as fast with one foot as you can with two, but honestly I don't care for metal.

[QUOTE=thickasabrick]about the whole speed thing...i noticed lots of metal drummers these days are using double kick bass drum dealys. is that just to make up for lack of talent? or is it just for a more deep "metal" sound?[/QUOTE]

A lot of it is just for it to be heavier. Though metal drumming mostly doesn't require rythem or even much skill to fit the sound. But the great metal drummers know how to make it sound even better. It's easy to do but hard to do well.

[QUOTE=thickasabrick]about the whole speed thing...i noticed lots of metal drummers these days are using double kick bass drum dealys. is that just to make up for lack of talent? or is it just for a more deep "metal" sound?[/QUOTE]

These days?

They've been around for over twenty years man. It's for speed, and the ability to get a precise syncopation that you would otherwise be unable to do. It doesn't necessarily mean lack of talent, most of the well known rock drummers have a double bass.

[QUOTE=Paranoidd]Personally, I'm looking at speed, limb independance, cadence, structure, creativity/composition, overall rythym, ability to fit the music, etc.

I mean, Peart uses a big kit compared to most drummers. Gadd's in miniscule compared to Peart's, who goes all the way around. I mean, Peart does latin percussion, woodblocks, electronic triggers, etc. It's difficult to compare them unless they were both playing the same thing.[/QUOTE]
I couldn't care less about speed, at that level there's no one who really needs to be faster. WAtch the Drum battles! I've got to be heading to bed though bye!

Oh ok..I was just wondering cuz these guys did a gig at my school and the drummer did a solo. One of my friends (who drums) said it was crap because all he did was play the double kicks as fast as he could while randomly hitting the cymbals. I dont know a lot about drumming, and even less about metal.

[QUOTE=thickasabrick]Oh ok..I was just wondering cuz these guys did a gig at my school and the drummer did a solo. One of my friends (who drums) said it was crap because all he did was play the double kicks as fast as he could while randomly hitting the cymbals. I dont know a lot about drumming, and even less about metal.[/QUOTE]
Alot of drummers do that, it's overdone and boring though.

Well, that guy sucked. Anybody can hit the drums fast. It's all about maintaining a solid rythem and doing fills and rolls to help the progression of the song. And a drum solo should show not just speed but fast variations and poly-rythems as well. The poly-rythem has escaped most metal drummers.

you guys know your stuff....im going to bed though, i have too much stuff rolling around in my head now.

Hahaha, alright then. See ya.

I'm still here for now.

Organizing my books of CD's...into new/heavy and old.

He, mr organized orgaanizes stuff that needs to be organized...

By the way your last 4 rants or so... brilliant :)

Really?!

Thanks, I thought they were weak! That's the best thing I've heard in this weekend from hell.

I'm watching The Breakfest Club on a saturday night. How hurting is that.

This is the first night in about a month I haven't gone out...third night in a month I haven't smoked dope. And it has been one of the most stressful weekends in recent memory.

I watched the holy trinity of movies tonight

Trainspotting
A Clockwork Orange
Breakfest Club

Bumpzor!!!

Good morning...I guess.